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Jed2007
07 Sep 2007, 01:23 PM
Let me start by saying I absolutely love my country and was proud to serve in the US Marines for 5 rewarding years. With the kick off of our American pigskin football I need to use the word soccer before I start talking about Peyton Manning and LaDanian Tomlinson. So, all non-Americans, sorry for using the word "soccer."


Why is it that America sucks when it comes to sport? We watch year in and year out overpaid basketball, football (pigskin), and baseball players driving their Rolls with an entourage of about 50 strong that would probably explode from glare if you put a spotlight on them. America is completely taken over with bling, highlight reels, and interviews. We have analysts for our sports analysts.

I watched a MLS game which was the most bizarre display of "lets pretend we're English footballers and actually touch the ball the right way." It ended up looking like Tiger Woods trying to pole dance. Gross. The players did plenty of one touches through mid field, and then a lob to the far corner of the field, but no one is there. The fluidity just isn't there, and is apparent when you see some insightful play but no players at the other end. That's why I have loved English football for so long. Not only are there brilliant plays but there is actually a teammate waiting to finish.

It goes without saying that our pool of players gets soaked through our mainstream sports. Any high school (grades 9th-12th) or college/university will tell you they recruit soccer players. They are athletic, agile, enduring, and coordinated. So that doesn't leave much for prospect as the avg MLS player is paid about $17,000 a year. And why should anyone aspire to be a professional soccer player in America when the money is in baseball, pigskin football, and basketball?

America is slowly getting turned off by all of the current professional sports due to the decay of morals from these players. Imagine a player from Chelsea getting arrested for beating up his wife, or 5 players being busted for large amounts of narcotics, and most recently, owning and running an underground dogfighting ring. What would be your response to those players continuing to wear your shirts?

You know what America's response is to all of these incidents (because every one of those has happened here)? The response is, "when will he be playing again?" Can you believe it? The judge usually issues some fines to be paid, the player reads some scrap from his lawyer "apologizing to da comunity fo all mah actionz, and do not wesh to be judged." And that's that, see you at practice. If that isn't bad enough, we have movies and commercials that glorify these criminals, kids emulating their speech and off the field antics.

When I see interviews with the Chelsea side never once do I suspect some underlying agenda. I most certainly see some clues that would lead me to believe he's not happy there or that a move is to be made, but I never hear about how this player has over $9000 a month in alimony because they have 9 kids with 9 different women. We have about 12 of those types, and they are all adored for their talent.

I suppose the only reason to explain the disinterest for soccer in this country is the scoring. There is no appreciation for a 0-0 result, no matter the level of skill difference. I hear "there's just no action in soccer" all day on our sports channels. Since David Beckham's arrival soccer is given daily attention now. Even though it's all controversial talk and speculation on if he will make a difference or not, we're at least covering it. All of these analysts believe that if soccer had more games resulting in 5-4 that Americans would watch. I find that to be evidence that only a small percentage of Americans know what it takes to play soccer. Every year soccer is claimed the #1 most physical demanding sport. Not a guess, a fact. Followed up by #2 motocross racing (believe it) and #3 hockey.

Football and basketball don't even make the top ten. Granted, it takes a special type of athlete to not get killed in 1 play of NFL football, but how many of those players can chase a soccer ball for one half of a game? The truth is many of their hearts would explode.

My father even told me that soccer goals were not as fun to watch as the drama that occurs in the final seconds of our sports. Fair argument considering that we have unheard of comebacks and are very entertaining to see how the team will respond, whereas in soccer I find that a 3-0 lead ensures you could probably leave by the 70th minute. I think the fairer argument would be that comebacks and drama like that is RARER in soccer, which would trigger our attention span to not expect it, hence we lose interest...in other sports, you will see fans to the end to see if a comeback will happen.

However, my father changed his mind about how exciting soccer can be after showing him youtube.com clips of Ronaldinho, Ronaldo, Kaka, and Lampard swinging in goals from way out. He was blown away by goals from Yeboah, Giuli, Bergkamp, the list goes on. Afterwards he said, "that is truly more amazing than any freak basketball shot I've ever seen." I know dad, now shut up and enjoy it already!

This turned out to be way longer than I had anticipated, and if you actually made it through the whole thing I say thank you for listening. I'm surrounded by a materialized nation of free capitol and personal gain, and I want an organization that is beloved and faithful for Americans to regain their sense of sportsmanship and class. I have found it in Chelsea 10 years ago and I have never worn another club's shirt.

Walter3000
07 Sep 2007, 01:34 PM
Great another whiny American.

Jed2007
07 Sep 2007, 01:57 PM
Great another whiny American.

Please forgive the rant, and I promise I will never post that long again. I am just very confused and disheartened by American sports and their players. I was hoping for some insight and am not surprised or deterred from a quick slap of a label of whiner.

Living in Boston must be rough as all of your teams blow. The Red Sox are your only saving grace and might contend in the playoffs, but we both know that your title belongs to the Yankees. See you in another 86 years.

L.G.S
07 Sep 2007, 02:11 PM
Why is this in the Chelsea forums?

JoshDB
07 Sep 2007, 02:29 PM
Why is this in the Chelsea forums?

He's a Chelsea supporter, duhhhhh. Mention our name in another forum and you'll be barraged by poorly thought out bandwagon jokes, and the overall meaning of the thread will be lost. Orrr something.

Anyways, good read. I agree with the whole lack of morality thing. Its perdy ridiculous. But its only getting worse..

bbsbt
07 Sep 2007, 02:39 PM
Living in Boston must be rough as all of your teams blow. The Red Sox are your only saving grace and might contend in the playoffs,Not true. The New England Revolution could run circles around Chelsea.

adri
07 Sep 2007, 02:57 PM
Not true. The New England Revolution could run circles around Chelsea.
without ever touching the ball;)

Jed2007
07 Sep 2007, 03:04 PM
without ever touching the ball;)

Not true. The New England Revolution could run circles around Chelsea.

I would be willing to bet that there isn't a single player on NER that could carry Essien's jock strap.

BusbyBabes
07 Sep 2007, 03:08 PM
I would just say that actually both your 'soccer' team and your politics stink..:p

Jed2007
07 Sep 2007, 03:13 PM
I would just say that actually both your 'soccer' team and your politics stink..:p

Fair, and noted.

bbsbt
07 Sep 2007, 03:41 PM
without ever touching the ball;)Such is the mystical power of the New England Revolution!

bbsbt
07 Sep 2007, 03:43 PM
I would be willing to bet that there isn't a single player on NER that could carry Essien's jock strap.
Essien? Essien?!? :rolleyes:
Oh please... he doesn't stand a chance against the Revolution's Khano Smith.

Jed2007
07 Sep 2007, 03:53 PM
Essien? Essien?!? :rolleyes:
Oh please... he doesn't stand a chance against the Revolution's Khano Smith.

I actually like Khano, but there is a reason Essien was ranked 5th of 50 in today's best footballers. He's a monster.

Clan
07 Sep 2007, 04:00 PM
Well, all of what you say certainly has an element of truth to it.

However, if you think our game is beyond reproach, you're sadly mistaken.

There is a rather nasty, seedy, side to football that is rarely exposed - a situation that is not seen in the US, because the media won't be bullied when they have their teeth into something.

There are drugs galore in the English game, the drinking culture, the away romps with any ol' slapper that can be had, the gambling and bungs...all of which just don't get the intense media coverage seen in the States.

Also, there is more of a 'closed shop' attitude in the game, what happens between the players, stays between the players.That certainly isn't the case in America, where there is always somebody willing to give everybody up on a plea agreement, as soon as it gets a bit hot.

It isn't as bad as the NFL/MLS scandals of late, but it certainly isn't snow white either.

fernb8
07 Sep 2007, 04:35 PM
Well, all of what you say certainly has an element of truth to it.

However, if you think our game is beyond reproach, you're sadly mistaken.

There is a rather nasty, seedy, side to football that is rarely exposed - a situation that is not seen in the US, because the media won't be bullied when they have their teeth into something.

There are drugs galore in the English game, the drinking culture, the away romps with any ol' slapper that can be had, the gambling and bungs...all of which just don't get the intense media coverage seen in the States.

Also, there is more of a 'closed shop' attitude in the game, what happens between the players, stays between the players.That certainly isn't the case in America, where there is always somebody willing to give everybody up on a plea agreement, as soon as it gets a bit hot.

It isn't as bad as the NFL/MLS scandals of late, but it certainly isn't snow white either.

hmmmm methinks you may be subconscously referring to the mighty team of the late 60s to early 70s that graced Stamford Bridge for a good example. Beautiful footie on the pitch combined with piss ups, drug fests and more wife swapping or cheating that one would see in an hour of Jerry Springer.

adri
07 Sep 2007, 04:51 PM
Such is the mystical power of the New England Revolution!
huh, i didn't realise 'revolution' was a Jedi name...:)

blackjack
07 Sep 2007, 04:53 PM
hmmmm methinks you may be subconscously referring to the mighty team of the late 60s to early 70s that graced Stamford Bridge for a good example. Beautiful footie on the pitch combined with piss ups, drug fests and more wife swapping or cheating that one would see in an hour of Jerry Springer.

And really, I don't have a problem with that. I want to see good play on the pitch, and I want to see players treat the manager, the club, the fans, and the media with respect. Beyond that, I don't really care what they do in the pub or in the hotel after the match. They're mostly 20-somethings, well under the age when your standard man is expected to be settled down with a wife and kids under one big roof. There's no reason a 25 year-old athlete shouldn't be able to have as good a time as a 25 year-old construction worker.

What vexes me is when it gets in the press. They really have no business reporting this kind of stuff. If you want athletes to be role models for your children, just focus on what they do on the field. As long as they play with good heart and treat people with respect, they're still good role models even if they want to go have a few the night after the game. But when the press starts making bigger stories out of the evening than the game itself, that's when you start hearing about how "athletes aren't suitable role models anymore!" Really, the behavior of the athletes hasn't changed. What has changed is that what was kept under wraps 20-30 years ago is now completely in the public domain.

bbsbt
07 Sep 2007, 04:56 PM
It isn't as bad as the NFL/MLS scandals of late, but it certainly isn't snow white either.:confused: There are scandals in MLS?

fernb8
07 Sep 2007, 04:59 PM
And really, I don't have a problem with that. I want to see good play on the pitch, and I want to see players treat the manager, the club, the fans, and the media with respect. Beyond that, I don't really care what they do in the pub or in the hotel after the match. They're mostly 20-somethings, well under the age when your standard man is expected to be settled down with a wife and kids under one big roof. There's no reason a 25 year-old athlete shouldn't be able to have as good a time as a 25 year-old construction worker.

What vexes me is when it gets in the press. They really have no business reporting this kind of stuff. If you want athletes to be role models for your children, just focus on what they do on the field. As long as they play with good heart and treat people with respect, they're still good role models even if they want to go have a few the night after the game. But when the press starts making bigger stories out of the evening than the game itself, that's when you start hearing about how "athletes aren't suitable role models anymore!" Really, the behavior of the athletes hasn't changed. What has changed is that what was kept under wraps 20-30 years ago is now completely in the public domain.

I have a problem with the club, players, manager, etc not putting a stop to the bollox behind the scenes. The point was that a lot of the behind the scenes bollox at the club in the late 60s and early 70s directly affected the on field performance IMO. I know these guys are supposed to be professionals, but the tension created by certian players banging other players wives was horrible for team morale and led to several players leaving the club under bad circumstances.

As for the rest, agreed, but unfortunately it sells papers. Much like Paris Hilton, if she was not in the papers who the feck would she be?

blackjack
07 Sep 2007, 05:05 PM
I have a problem with the club, players, manager, etc not putting a stop to the bollox behind the scenes. The point was that a lot of the behind the scenes bollox at the club in the late 60s and early 70s directly affected the on field performance IMO. I know these guys are supposed to be professionals, but the tension created by certian players banging other players wives was horrible for team morale and led to several players leaving the club under bad circumstances.

As for the rest, agreed, but unfortunately it sells papers. Much like Paris Hilton, if she was not in the papers who the feck would she be?

That makes sense. Obviously, I wasn't around to see the detriment that team incurred because of its behavior, but I can see a little bit of a parallel with players like Joey Barton and Craig Bellamy. Clearly there's a limit, and when it is breached, it's a problem. But if you remember the summer story about Lamps and SWP getting cozy with some ladies in Vegas over the summer that was discussed here, that's an example of what I mean by things that fans just don't need to concern themselves with.