The future of the U-17

[Dominican Lou]

I don't know about you guys but I love to speculate about how good young players are going to turn out.

So how good do you all see these chibolos turning out to be?

I'll go player by player cuz I'm bored.

Hermoza- As good as he is, he really needs to grow some. He's only 1.76 and needs to be at least 1.83 (Carvallo's height) to be NT worthy. I see him being better than Miranda or Delgado, but not as good as Forsyth or Penny. A good keeper but not good enough to go abroad.

Arce- This dude is good. I see him going abroad eventually. Maybe Argentina or Brazil. He's also going to be a regular on the NT.

Hernandez- He'll be on the NT too. He'll be like Villalta or Vilchez or Galliquio. A good defender that can step up as a starter on the NT occasionally.

Duarte- The next great defender. Will be at least as good as Rebosio, Rodriguez, Acasiete, maybe even better.

Munoz- Good, solid player that'll get called up every once in a while. He'll be like Ubillus or Portilla.

Salazar and Bazalar- I see them getting called up to the NT regularly and maybe going abroad for a few years. Like Ciurlizza, Rayner Torres or how Cruzado is now.

Correa- He's fast, plays with heart and has a good shot. He'll be about like Hidalgo, which isn't bad. I see him making it in France or the Netherlands or a small team in Spain if he gets on a good streak.

Avila- No one likes this chato but I think he's really good. Will be one of the better players in the Peruvian league for years and will go abroad every once in a while.

La Torre- The next Feo Cominges or Ysrael Zuniga. Good for the local league and will get called up a few times when he's in his prime.

Manco- After the qualifers Cubillas said he'll be better than him. I don't see that happening. He's the next Farfan or Solano in that he'll be the NT's star, will be loved by the fans of a European club but won't be a worldwide superstar either.

[Navimaster]

1. Shouldn't this be called "The future of the Jotitas" then ?

2. I agree with you about Manco, he's good and all, but he won't be WORLDWIDE good. Probably a little bit better than Pizarro or Farfan, maybe. But he'll still be one of the best players Peru has so far in this new generation.

3. Hermoza is freaking awesome, look at his age and how much he has accomplished for his team, I disagree with the whole "He has to grow some" ... I think given a couple of years and hard-work/training like he has had so far, he'll be better than Forsyth.

[Guti™]

I see Eder as Alianza's starting goalkeeper in a couple more years.

Pinto is a good keeper but he lacks the consistency needed to succeed at a club like Alianza. Tiene unas de cal y otras de arena.

But I would also like to see what Reyes (the best U-20 keeper in Peru) and Goyoneche have to offer.

[superfrantheman]

Hermoza- As good as he is, he really needs to grow some. He's only 1.76 and needs to be at least 1.83 (Carvallo's height) to be NT worthy. I see him being better than Miranda or Delgado, but not as good as Forsyth or Penny. A good keeper but not good enough to go abroad..
-hermoza isnt bad
-he has a great future, now its only pinto, and goyoneche, i think we can be alianza #2 gk in 2008 apertura, and if he continues like this he could be # o1 by the end of apertura, or beginning of clausura
-then height doesnt influence in a gk career, i know its a good help if you are tall, but remember jorge campos from mexico, or jonnie vegas, he wasnt bad back ythen in late 90's or beginning of 2000's, and i thnk he is 1.82

Arce- This dude is good. I see him going abroad eventually. Maybe Argentina or Brazil. He's also going to be a regular on the NT..
-arce replaced cuto zevallos, he fifnt do it bad, but i think he can be consider for the future, he can be called for future peruvian teams

Hernandez- He'll be on the NT too. He'll be like Villalta or Vilchez or Galliquio. A good defender that can step up as a starter on the NT occasionally..
-he isnt bad, he will be like pajuelo, or rebosio, someone that goes along a good and/or better center back, he isnt bad, has future too

Duarte- The next great defender. Will be at least as good as Rebosio, Rodriguez, Acasiete, maybe even better..he will be the next acasiete, reynoso, or sandro baylon,

Munoz- Good, solid player that'll get called up every once in a while. He'll be like Ubillus or Portilla.. not bad, he replaced socola real good

Salazar and Bazalar- I see them getting called up to the NT regularly and maybe going abroad for a few years. Like Ciurlizza, Rayner Torres or how Cruzado is now.. they arent bad, bazalar is more like a mixto mid, salazar improved a lot, we need to see more from this too guys

Correa- He's fast, plays with heart and has a good shot. He'll be about like Hidalgo, which isn't bad. I see him making it in France or the Netherlands or a small team in Spain if he gets on a good streak.. he is also sopmeone we need for the future, we dont have that kind of midfielders nowadays

Avila- No one likes this chato but I think he's really good. Will be one of the better players in the Peruvian league for years and will go abroad every once in a while..you are wrong, i kind of like this chato, he isnt bad, he plays better outise of the goal, he played some good games

La Torre- The next Feo Cominges or Ysrael Zuniga. Good for the local league and will get called up a few times when he's in his prime.. yes, i agree latorre viene de arriba hacia abajo, but he can be used later

Manco- After the qualifers Cubillas said he'll be better than him. I don't see that happening. He's the next Farfan or Solano in that he'll be the NT's star, will be loved by the fans of a European club but won't be a worldwide superstar either.
no words here, we already know him


you forgot to mention


socola - great future, in there, i would like to see him defendinf more, cuz when he attacks he does it very well, but i havent seen him defending so much

huevo ruiz - a good substitution, he is a different kind of player, he has a great future

luis trujillo - unforutanelty he has correa in fornt of him, but this guy has potential, i hjope alianza gives him, manco, hermoza, socola, and the rest of jotitas an opportunity

coavoy- we didnt get to see him, but he has to be called up for amistosos

so far i mentioned 16 people, 21 went to corea, if we add coavoy that makes 22, so we have this 6 players left

gallese, ulloa - we dont know anything about them

now 4 left

cuto zevallos - this guys i dont really like him, stay in la U
molina - i liked when he came in to replace the injured munoz, he didnt play bad
chino claderon - i didnt like this one too
daniel sanchez - another latorre, in el sudamericano he played better than in this wc, i hope oblitas gives him an opportunity along with .... ismodes, delgado, huevo ruiz, salazar, this guys were born in 1990, or 89, so they can make it for the next sudamericano for sub20
rusito salazar - tiene un patadon, pero no lo vi muy bien, ojhala tambien mejores

[superfrantheman]

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3. Hermoza is freaking awesome, look at his age and how much he has accomplished for his team, I disagree with the whole "He has to grow some" ... I think given a couple of years and hard-work/training like he has had so far, he'll be better than Forsyth.

hermoza improved a lot, i rememebr the day i watched that racing 5 al 0 in late december around the 16th or 18th

he was scared, he looked all weak when he had to take control over the ball, i dodnt see him taking with his defenders,

but now this hermoza improved a lot, i would compared the one hermoz i saw in december with those towo games we had in el sudamericano peru 1 brasil 4, and colombia 3 -peru 0, but the hermoza we all want to see is the one that saved us from a goleada in the game with ghana, or the game he had agaisnt ecuador in segunda ronda del sudamericano, or the one game we played costa rica, or togo

thats the hermoza, we all want to see, mama!

[elperucho]

I see Eder as Alianza's starting goalkeeper in a couple more years.

Pinto is a good keeper but he lacks the consistency needed to succeed at a club like Alianza. Tiene unas de cal y otras de arena.

But I would also like to see what Reyes (the best U-20 keeper in Peru) and Goyoneche have to offer.


ya tendremos 4 arqueros para entoncs, hay q quedarnos con solo 3, creo q goyoneche debe de ser transferido a otro club temporalmente y subir a reyes como 2do arquero y hermoza como 3er

[Peruvian_6663]

I don't know about you guys but I love to speculate about how good young players are going to turn out.

So how good do you all see these chibolos turning out to be?

I'll go player by player cuz I'm bored.

Hermoza- As good as he is, he really needs to grow some. He's only 1.76 and needs to be at least 1.83 (Carvallo's height) to be NT worthy. I see him being better than Miranda or Delgado, but not as good as Forsyth or Penny. A good keeper but not good enough to go abroad.

Arce- This dude is good. I see him going abroad eventually. Maybe Argentina or Brazil. He's also going to be a regular on the NT.

Hernandez- He'll be on the NT too. He'll be like Villalta or Vilchez or Galliquio. A good defender that can step up as a starter on the NT occasionally.

Duarte- The next great defender. Will be at least as good as Rebosio, Rodriguez, Acasiete, maybe even better.

Munoz- Good, solid player that'll get called up every once in a while. He'll be like Ubillus or Portilla.

Salazar and Bazalar- I see them getting called up to the NT regularly and maybe going abroad for a few years. Like Ciurlizza, Rayner Torres or how Cruzado is now.

Correa- He's fast, plays with heart and has a good shot. He'll be about like Hidalgo, which isn't bad. I see him making it in France or the Netherlands or a small team in Spain if he gets on a good streak.

Avila- No one likes this chato but I think he's really good. Will be one of the better players in the Peruvian league for years and will go abroad every once in a while.

La Torre- The next Feo Cominges or Ysrael Zuniga. Good for the local league and will get called up a few times when he's in his prime.

Manco- After the qualifers Cubillas said he'll be better than him. I don't see that happening. He's the next Farfan or Solano in that he'll be the NT's star, will be loved by the fans of a European club but won't be a worldwide superstar either.

como se nota que es de un peruano, que pesimista somos :(

[Peruvian_6663]

Correa- He's fast, plays with heart and has a good shot. He'll be about like Hidalgo, which isn't bad. I see him making it in France or the Netherlands or a small team in Spain if he gets on a good streak.


hidalgo has nothing on correra right now :D

[superfrantheman]

cierto me olvide de reyes


solo hay 12 equipos, necesitamops am,s equipos en el peru, habiendo 14 o 16 podrian ser prestados 4 o 5 jugadores de SC, AL, y tambien de la U, mano!

[Dominican Lou]

hidalgo has nothing on correra right now :D

Hidalgo's played in Argentina, Brazil, Russia, Paraguay, Spain's 2nd division, was on the Best 11 of the 1997 Copa America. If Correa can do that he should be happy.

I just hope they don't stick him at left back just because he's a lefty and likes to hustle. He can be another Vargas or a lefty Jorge Soto.

[superfrantheman]

correa has to stick on teh left side, he has potential, mano!

[Dominican Lou]

-hermoza isnt bad
-he has a great future, now its only pinto, and goyoneche, i think we can be alianza #2 gk in 2008 apertura, and if he continues like this he could be # o1 by the end of apertura, or beginning of clausura
-then height doesnt influence in a gk career, i know its a good help if you are tall, but remember jorge campos from mexico, or jonnie vegas, he wasnt bad back ythen in late 90's or beginning of 2000's, and i thnk he is 1.82



Ya empesaste Francis.

Jorge Campos es el unico arquero relativamente notable (ni era tan bueno tampoco) que haya medido menos de 1.80 en los ultimos 20 anos. En otras palabras, es SUPER raro que haya un arquero chato que destaque. Si pueden llegar a 1ra division pero para que sea verdaderamente bueno, tiene que ser alto.

Johnny Vegas?? No jodas pues. Era un arquero regularon nomas que llego a la seleccion porque en ese entonces no habian otros. Hoy en dia, estaria detras de Forsyth, Penny, Butron, Carvallo, Pinto, Chiquito, Delgado, Libman.

[superfrantheman]

mira, campos si eraq bueno, al menos del 94 al 98

y vegas, tuvo sus cinco minutos de fama, en el lapsus que te indique alla arriba, y calro hoy en dia esta detras de todos los que has nombrado

a lo que me refiero, es que hermoza tiene futuro, y tu estyas preocupado por su tamaño, nomas te digo una cosa el tamaño no importa :D

[elperucho]

Ya empesaste Francis.

Jorge Campos es el unico arquero relativamente notable (ni era tan bueno tampoco) que haya medido menos de 1.80 en los ultimos 20 anos. En otras palabras, es SUPER raro que haya un arquero chato que destaque. Si pueden llegar a 1ra division pero para que sea verdaderamente bueno, tiene que ser alto.

Johnny Vegas?? No jodas pues. Era un arquero regularon nomas que llego a la seleccion porque en ese entonces no habian otros. Hoy en dia, estaria detras de Forsyth, Penny, Butron, Carvallo, Pinto, Chiquito, Delgado, Libman.

jorge campos por lo menos saltaba como sapo...

[Peruvian_6663]

Hidalgo's played in Argentina, Brazil, Russia, Paraguay, Spain's 2nd division, was on the Best 11 of the 1997 Copa America. If Correa can do that he should be happy.

I just hope they don't stick him at left back just because he's a lefty and likes to hustle. He can be another Vargas or a lefty Jorge Soto.

talking bout right now

i dont see anything special about hidalgo

[superfrantheman]

hidalgo , now sucks he deserves to go back to AL.

[elperucho]

hidalgo , now sucks he deserves to go back to AL.

hidalgo likes AL better than sc, the same like flavio

[superfrantheman]

so then hidalgo likes to be called cagon?

i dont understand how people can feel happy by being called cagon?

[elperucho]

so then hidalgo likes to be called cagon?

i dont understand how people can feel happy by being called cagon?
francis no empiezes :rolleyes:

[Guti™]

ATRBF

:rolleyes: