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Quaresma
29 Aug 2007, 05:28 PM
What are the 4 groupings to determine the CL groups look like?

If anyone knows and posts the pots it would be much appreciated:)

Spartak
29 Aug 2007, 05:39 PM
If Sevilla defeat AEK this is what the pots will look like:

Pot 1 coef. Pot 2 coef.
------------------------ --- ------- ------------------------ --- -------
AC Milan (TH) Ita 133.808 Valencia *** Esp 99.374
FC Barcelona Esp 119.374 Olympique Lyon Fra 95.706
Liverpool *** Eng 112.618 FC Porto Por 89.107
Internazionale Ita 107.808 Sevilla *** Esp 87.374
Arsenal *** Eng 104.618 PSV Eindhoven Ned 81.995
Real Madrid Esp 104.374 AS Roma Ita 78.808
Chelsea Eng 99.618 Benfica *** Por 67.107
Manchester United Eng 99.618 Werder Bremen *** Ger 63.640

Pot 3 coef. Pot 4 coef.
------------------------ --- ------- ------------------------ --- -------
Celtic *** Sco 62.064 Glasgow Rangers ** Sco 47.064
Schalke 04 Ger 60.640 Shakhtar Donetsk ** Ukr 44.726
VfB Stuttgart Ger 58.640 Besiktas ** Tur 43.791
Steaua Bucuresti ** Rom 55.255 Olympiakos Piraeus Gre 42.415
CSKA Moscow Rus 53.920 Dinamo Kiev *** Ukr 38.726
Sporting CP Lisbon Por 52.107 Fenerbahçe *** Tur 36.791
Lazio Roma *** Ita 51.808 Slavia Praha ** Cze 32.851
Olympique Marseille Fra 51.706 Rosenborg BK ** Nor 31.509
http://www.xs4all.nl/~kassiesa/bert/uefa/seedcl2007.html

I'm not sure if the draw will go ahead as scheduled tomorrow since the Sevilla/AEK match won't be played until Monday. Anybody know what UEFA will do?

benficafan3
29 Aug 2007, 05:52 PM
If Sevilla defeat AEK this is what the pots will look like:

Pot 1 coef. Pot 2 coef.
------------------------ --- ------- ------------------------ --- -------
AC Milan (TH) Ita 133.808 Valencia *** Esp 99.374
FC Barcelona Esp 119.374 Olympique Lyon Fra 95.706
Liverpool *** Eng 112.618 FC Porto Por 89.107
Internazionale Ita 107.808 Sevilla *** Esp 87.374
Arsenal *** Eng 104.618 PSV Eindhoven Ned 81.995
Real Madrid Esp 104.374 AS Roma Ita 78.808
Chelsea Eng 99.618 Benfica *** Por 67.107
Manchester United Eng 99.618 Werder Bremen *** Ger 63.640

Pot 3 coef. Pot 4 coef.
------------------------ --- ------- ------------------------ --- -------
Celtic *** Sco 62.064 Glasgow Rangers ** Sco 47.064
Schalke 04 Ger 60.640 Shakhtar Donetsk ** Ukr 44.726
VfB Stuttgart Ger 58.640 Besiktas ** Tur 43.791
Steaua Bucuresti ** Rom 55.255 Olympiakos Piraeus Gre 42.415
CSKA Moscow Rus 53.920 Dinamo Kiev *** Ukr 38.726
Sporting CP Lisbon Por 52.107 Fenerbahçe *** Tur 36.791
Lazio Roma *** Ita 51.808 Slavia Praha ** Cze 32.851
Olympique Marseille Fra 51.706 Rosenborg BK ** Nor 31.509
http://www.xs4all.nl/~kassiesa/bert/uefa/seedcl2007.html

I'm not sure if the draw will go ahead as scheduled tomorrow since the Sevilla/AEK match won't be played until Monday. Anybody know what UEFA will do?

They will go ahead with the draw, as if Sevilla won the tie.

midknight
29 Aug 2007, 06:54 PM
http://www.uefa.com/competitions/ucl/news/kind=1/newsid=576667.html

9_kezman
29 Aug 2007, 06:54 PM
İnter
Benfica
Stuttgart
Fenerbahçe

i wanna these teams in our group as a Fenerbahçe fan...

Fry36
29 Aug 2007, 07:20 PM
İnter
Benfica
Stuttgart
Fenerbahçe

i wanna these teams in our group as a Fenerbahçe fan...
Replace Stuttgart with Steaua and Benfica with PSV and I'm with ya.

Viola Star
29 Aug 2007, 08:35 PM
It's a shame Spartak Moscow have been knocked out. They are better than some of the teams in the draw.

Viola Star
29 Aug 2007, 08:37 PM
Milan
Schalke
Sevilla
Shakhtar

Group of death?

CDSANTACLARA
29 Aug 2007, 10:13 PM
Slavia who would of tought

SchalkeSupporter
30 Aug 2007, 03:00 AM
As Schalke Supporter I would choose:

ManU
PSV (2 hours drive)
Rangers


Awesome group for us. Very hard, but not impossible to get the 2nd place. Sevilla would be also nice...good relations to the club since UEFA Cup 05/06 semifinal!

essie
30 Aug 2007, 03:20 AM
For Chelsea i think the hardest would be Valencia, Shalke, and Shaktar with the easiest being, Roma, Marseille, and Rosenborg

Fry36
30 Aug 2007, 03:27 AM
Speaking of Schalke I think I'd rather see a group like:

Arsenal
PSV
Schalke
Fenerbahce

I've always liked Schalke - Fener games. Not because of the score, but because they're always entertaining.

And whoever picks Valencia off the 2nd pot and Stuttgart off the 3rd is one unlucky sob in my opinion. I'd think THAT would be the group of death for any team in the 4th pot.

Edgar
30 Aug 2007, 04:23 AM
Real Madrid
Lyon
Steaua
Dinamo Kiev

Same group as last year ;)

besiktasfan
30 Aug 2007, 05:05 AM
Inter
PSV
Marseille

this is my wish as a besiktasfan.

Offlimp
30 Aug 2007, 07:35 AM
how can inter be in the 1st pot?
where do they have the points from? I dont remember them doing anything in europe. :confused:

MechCAK
30 Aug 2007, 08:18 AM
Barcelona
Lyon
Cska
Fenerbahce

Arsenal
Schalke
Benfica
Besiktas

Edgar
30 Aug 2007, 08:58 AM
how can inter be in the 1st pot?
where do they have the points from? I dont remember them doing anything in europe. :confused:

2003 - SF in CL
2004 - QF in UC
2005 - QF in CL
2006 - QF in CL
2007 - Made it out of the group stage in CL

Viola Star
31 Aug 2007, 10:23 AM
I think it's wrong that the fourth best English club are in the first pot while the German champions are in the third.

ApproachWithCaution
01 Sep 2007, 08:00 PM
I see your point. I think the champions of the 8 best leagues in Europe (England, Spain, Italy, Germany, Portugal, France, Holland & Turkey), should all be in pot 1. That would be a just reward for winning your domestic league and it would add more credence to the competition. It is called the Champions league after all.

I know people will say that the winners of the competition aren't always champions of their domestic league. Liverpool and AC Milan being recent and prime examples of this. But to be honest, that's tough. I'd still put them in pot 2, whether they're the reigning champs or not.

frasermc
01 Sep 2007, 08:11 PM
I see your point. I think the champions of the 8 best leagues in Europe (England, Spain, Italy, Germany, Portugal, France, Holland & Turkey), should all be in pot 1. That would be a just reward for winning your domestic league and it would add more credence to the competition. It is called the Champions league after all.

I know people will say that the winners of the competition aren't always champions of their domestic league. Liverpool and AC Milan being recent and prime examples of this. But to be honest, that's tough. I'd still put them in pot 2, whether they're the reigning champs or not.

you rate turkey's league as 8th best?

and yet the two scottish clubs have a higher co-efficient than either turkish club. and in celtic's case by quite a considerable distance.

surely we would deserve to be placed above them on that point alone? and please dont mention the lack of domestic competition as our drawback. i'm well aware that it is but doesn't that also ring true to a certain extent in france, portugal and holland?