MLS DVDs

[MLS_stats]

Why don't MLS teams offer all their games on DVD? Since MLS owns the rights to games, the cost of burning all games to DVD would be limited to the cost of the DVD itself ($0.50).

[MLS_stats]

All the Goals - Metrostars 2003 DVD -> Now that's a DVD I would love to add to my collection. MLS could easily charge $24.99.

[Detective40oz]

It's not worth making them when the demand is about 1,000 hardcore supporters for each team. Maybe if they were going to make them as part of a season ticket package giveaway..but unfortunately MLS merchandise isn't exactly flying off the shelves anywhere.

[MLS_stats]

Originally posted by Detective40oz
It's not worth making them when the demand is about 1,000 hardcore supporters for each team.

If the Metros sold 1,000 DVDs, it would cover Mike Magee's current annual salary.

[AndyMead]

Originally posted by MLS_stats
If the Metros sold 1,000 DVDs, it would cover Mike Magee's current annual salary.

No, but the "gross revenue" might match "the amount paid" to Mike Magee. The cost of an employee or player is usually 150-250% of their wages when you add in incidental and benefits expenses.

On the flipside, 1,000 $24 DVDs (and as an early draft pick, Mike is making more than the $24k minimum) don't represent anywhere near $24,000 in net revenue. I'd be shocked if they represented more than $2-4k. There's not a large economy of scale at those quantities - unless you really want to go cheap on the editing, narration, and digital transfer. The goals don't compile themselves, someone has to spend the time going through the archives pulling master tapes, etc...

I'm not saying "don't do it". I'm just saying that I don't see where the ROI is.

[MikeLastort2]

You want to know something that's really cool?

[MikeLastort2]

Asking a question in a thread then answering it yourself in the next post a few minutes later, that's what's cool.

[kenntomasch]

You want to know what else is cool?

Making simple math assumptions about everything related to soccer business that aren't so simple after all.


























Okay, maybe that's not so cool.

[MLS_stats]

Originally posted by MikeLastort2
Asking a question in a thread then answering it yourself in the next post a few minutes later, that's what's cool.

The question I asked was "Why don't MLS teams offer all their games on DVD?"

I couldn't find where I answered it . . . Please help me out (and do drop the smart-a?? attitude).

[MLS_stats]

Originally posted by AndyMead
Mike is making more than the $24k minimum

". . .talented rookies like the MetroStars' Mike Magee and Ricardo Clark are making $24,000 to $30,000."

http://www.nytimes.com/2003/07/06/sports/soccer/06SOCC.html?ex=1058068800&en=d69d0562f8cc87ad&ei=5062&partner=GOOGLE

[MLS_stats]

Originally posted by AndyMead
The cost of an employee or player is usually 150-250% of their wages when you add in incidental and benefits expenses.


That percentage is way too high. 35-40% is more realistic. MLS player benefits are very limited (in addition to group benefits).

[MLS_stats]

Originally posted by AndyMead
The goals don't compile themselves, someone has to spend the time going through the archives pulling master tapes, etc...

Someone is already editing the tapes for "goal of the week" . . .

I know people who do this for a living and it's sure not that difficult. It's not costly either, it's not like MLS would have to hire 10 new people to do it.

[AndyMead]

Originally posted by MLS_stats
That percentage is way too high. 35-40% is more realistic. MLS player benefits are very limited (in addition to group benefits).

I stand by my number.

[AndyMead]

Originally posted by MLS_stats
Someone is already editing the tapes for "goal of the week" . . .



Which is completely different and totally unrelated to the production of a team based "goals" video. Completely different objectives and targets. Likely being done be different organizations with different objectives.

I know people who do this for a living and it's sure not that difficult.

It's not difficult. It is very time-consuming.

It's not costly either, it's not like MLS would have to hire 10 new people to do it.

Time is money. On a "Return on Investment" basis, it would be an extremely expensive waste of resources.

[kenntomasch]

Ever hear of payroll taxes and workman's compensation expense?

No, obviously not. Andy's spot-on. You're wrong.

[Lanky134]

Originally posted by MLS_stats
Why don't MLS teams offer all their games on DVD? Since MLS owns the rights to games, the cost of burning all games to DVD would be limited to the cost of the DVD itself ($0.50).
Here's the simplest answer:

Because there are undoubtedly still plenty of boxes of 1999 Season In Review lying around MLS' warehouses.

[kenntomasch]

Plus, the second DVD and subsequent ones cost $.50 to make. The first one costs several thousand dollars.

[The Cadaver]

LA Galaxy did in fact put together a 2002 Championship Season highlights DVD that was sent out to people buying season tickets at Victoria Street. Copies are now on sale at the stadium concession stands. It includs highlights of key games, playoffs, the Cup, and post-MLS Cup celebrations at Staples Center. I think there may have been season highlight videotapes sent out in some (not all) prior years.

[LiveFreeOrDie]

Originally posted by kenntomasch
Ever hear of payroll taxes and workman's compensation expense?

No, obviously not. Andy's spot-on. You're wrong.

You must be joking. At least I hope you are.

Payroll taxes are 7.65% and workman's comp is even less on a percentage basis. Add on UI and you're still nowhere near 50%.

[kenntomasch]

(a) Did I say it was 50%?, and
(b) Ever done workman's comp for a bunch of professional athletes? Depending on the state?