Potential European Superleague club owners that will say yes to its formation

[pc4th]

Glazer/Manchester United: Yes
Hicks,Gillette/Liverpool: Yes
Abramovich/Chelsea: Yes
Celtic: Yes
Ranger: Yes
If Kroenke gets Arsenal (he paid $130 million for ITV's 9.9% stake), he is another yes as well.

What about Bayern Munich and the big clubs in Spain and Italy?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/sport/football.html?in_article_id=471566&in_page_id=1779

The Celtic manager claims the various foreign owners of English clubs will be considering every option as they look for a return on their investments.

And he can see a scenario where Premier League giants and Europe's biggest clubs launch a breakaway league, even if that was in defiance of UEFA and FIFA.

"That's just my idea," he said, "that you might get the top 50 clubs saying, 'Right, that's enough, let's all make the cash and we'll break away, make our own leagues, and UEFA and FIFA can do what they want.'

"You've got to remember there's people from all around the world getting English clubs now - they're big businessmen, where do they make the money?"

Rangers/Celtics have been wanting to play in the Premiership for years. They would definately want to be in the European Superleague.

POTENTIAL TV REVENUE

Premiership international TV rights: $400 mil a year
Premiership domestic TV rights: $1.1 billion a year

An European SuperLeague might get $1 billion a year in international TV rights and $3 billion a year in domestic (England, Scotland, Italy, Spain, Germany, France, Portugal, Russia, Netherland) in TV rights.

Total: $4 bil a year.

Equal revenue sharing of TV rights: $4 bil / 22 clubs = $182 mil a year for each team.

[pc4th]

Article yesterday from the DailyMail titled "Are gang of four plotting an exit strategy?"

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/columnists/columnists.html?in_article_id=477925&in_page_id=1951&in_author_id=260

It has only ever been a matter of time before it happens but come the first hint of Chelsea, United, Arsenal or Liverpool failing to qualify for the Champions League then it will be very much sooner rather than later.

To hell with more than a century of tradition which has gone into the making of football into this country's most abiding sporting passion.

Forget all those historic rivalries, Liverpool v Everton, United v City and Arsenal v Tottenham included.

This is about hard cash and the multi-million pound signs are on the wall already.

The first of them went up the moment Michel Platini proposed a reduction in the number of English clubs entering the Champions League.

The gang of four went ballistic, as did their blood-money brothers in Italy and Spain who faced parallel cutbacks.

More followed as soon as Platini suggested that one of England's qualifiers should be the FA Cup winners. United have led the protests - the English giants want the insurance of qualification through a fourth-place finish.

So much for those honourable attempts by the new UEFA president to preserve the integrity of Europe's supreme tournament and to restore the lustre of the oldest football competition in the world.

Platini grew up in an era when only national champions had earned the right to take part in the European Cup. He was an onlooker as the purity of Real Madrid's glittering creation was distilled into the absurd misnomer of a Champions League populated by a majority of non-champions.

Not only is it too late now to go back to one club per country but if Platini keeps trying to spread more of the jam around the smaller nations, the sooner the G18 giants will go off to do their own thing.

Since a rebel league would jeopardise the international game - unregistered football would banish the top players from England and the rest of the leading World Cup and European Championship nations - UEFA's only option is to keep the big clubs in-house.

The cost of that is going to be their endorsement of a Super League which will leave domestic football in the lurch, not least financially.

If nothing else, Platini's stand has helped blow the cover of the powerful few.

Their negative reactions to his initiatives have amplified the hidden messages leaking out of the game.

The massive overseas investment in English clubs always implied that those tycoons had identified riches beyond the current structure of our football.

That threat to the status quo has been revealed by indications from Liverpool's American owners that they want to negotiate the television rights to their games independently-from the rest of the Premiership. That has been the unspoken ambition at Chelsea and United, among others, for some time.

This is the forerunner to a Super League, where the broadcasting revenue potential is vast beyond even the Sky, Setanta and BBC deals.


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/main.jhtml;jsessionid=253Z42WDNRVRVQFIQMGCFFWAVCBQUIV0?xml=/sport/2007/07/08/sfnrod108.xml
Rangers need European league, says Smith
By Roddy Forsyth, Sunday Telegraph

[zippy85]

Wow you ar a prolific thread starter, giid ones though, if Manchester United sold just their own t.V rights they would dwarf Real Madrid in the yearly finances statement when clubs are ranked in richest order, nobody would even come close to what Manchester United would make profit, but i hope we carry on sharing :)

[AFCA]

Just what football needed... :rolleyes:

[Alex_K]

What about Bayern Munich and the big clubs in Spain and Italy?



Considering that Bayern have no owner, getting his opinion could be difficult.

[Hansadyret]

Glazer/Manchester United: Yes
Hicks,Gillette/Liverpool: Yes
Abramovich/Chelsea: Yes
Celtic: Yes
Ranger: Yes
If Kroenke gets Arsenal (he paid $130 million for ITV's 9.9% stake), he is another yes as well.

What about Bayern Munich and the big clubs in Spain and Italy?


What i think:
Milan/Berlusconi: Yes
Inter/Moratti: Yes
Juve/Agnelli: Yes

When it comes to the member owned clubs in Spain and Germany like Barcelona, Real Madrid and Bayern Munich it will be more difficult and would have to be decided by a member vote. Anyway it is hard to see a superleague happening in the near future. I'm not sure it is such a finacially good move. I believe the best way is to continue to develop the CL together with the domestic leagues. It is a to drastic step to just give up all the history and traditions allready built up. In a way the CL allready is a superleague and the rich clubs are making money like never before.

[st mirren till i die]

Breakaway leagues are just a threat the G14 use to force UEFA to bend to their will.

If they do breakaway then fine, good riddance, they can take all of the armchair fans and glory hunters with them.

[memnoch999]

Breakaway leagues are just a threat the G14 use to force UEFA to bend to their will.

If they do breakaway then fine, good riddance, they can take all of the armchair fans and glory hunters with them.

For the sake of football, I hope it will never happen.

[st mirren till i die]

For the sake of football, I hope it will never happen.

It'll survive just fine, maybe go back to the way things were before big TV money and massive player wages.

[The Jitty Slitter]

So how exactly would the likes of Utd and Arsenal get 70K fans in to the ground every other week if they were no longer playing in the prem :rolleyes:

[blanc]

So how exactly would the likes of Utd and Arsenal get 70K fans in to the ground every other week if they were no longer playing in the prem :rolleyes:

I would imagine the rationale would be that 70K+ fans would be pouring into the grounds to watch Arsenal versus Bayern Munich or Manchester United versus Real Madrid playing each other every other week .. ;)

(am not a fan of this, BTW; stupid EPL foreign owners trying to mess with things.)

[The Jitty Slitter]

But would they?

This is one of the seldom discussed issues, because you can forget about getting the same levels of away support.

[johan neeskens]

It'll survive just fine, maybe go back to the way things were before big TV money and massive player wages.

That's what I think as well. There's already a massive gap between the football that the media pay attention to (i.e. rich leagues and rich clubs only) on the one hand and the type of football that rules the lives of the vast majority of European football fans on the other. I watch the CL for example and think to myself: I have absolutely nothing in common with that lot.

[The Jitty Slitter]

Agree

St Pauli is a great day out, but really it's not football as the global tv audience knows it.

but you can drink beer on the terrace

[johan neeskens]

Agree

St Pauli is a great day out, but really it's not football as the global tv audience knows it.

but you can drink beer on the terrace

Well exactly, there's still a proper football atmosphere at the smaller clubs. So let the global tv audience have their superleague and let the big clubs make their fans pay ridiculous amounts of money for a season ticket if it makes them happy.

[The Jitty Slitter]

the proper football atmos even includes hundreds of police vans and armoured vehicles with water cannons waiting for the visiting berlin fans to run amok ;D

[johan neeskens]

the proper football atmos even includes hundreds of police vans and armoured vehicles with water cannons waiting for the visiting berlin fans to run amok ;D

This may sound weird and not at all politically correct but I even miss old-school rioting! At our old stadium security was poor and you could easily climb over the fence from one section to the next for example. Added an extra dimension so to speak.

[The Jitty Slitter]

This may sound weird and not at all politically correct but I even miss old-school rioting! At our old stadium security was poor and you could easily climb over the fence from one section to the next for example. Added an extra dimension so to speak.

Klar

Although i don't fancy getting smacked over the head

[johan neeskens]

Klar

Although i don't fancy getting smacked over the head

I don't think I can run away as quickly as I could back then. Also I imagine telling my little boy: 'mummy is having a rough day as she got involved in a riot at the footy yesterday'. In short, I'm deffo too old for that type of thing.

[The Jitty Slitter]

lol

Neeskens: "Groan..."

Scouser: "Leave mummy be son, she been fighting with the cops again"