PDA

View Full Version : P-D: Public to get peek of stadium


sirfallsalot_2000
27 Aug 2007, 10:22 AM
Another story from the St. Louis Post-Dispatch about the plans being made public as much as 10 days in advance so everyone can see what Collinsville is voting on. My favorite line:

Cooper said he is so confident in the project that he wants residents to be given the opportunity to see any plans "so the public has a chance to shoot holes in it."

:D

CS_Pretzel
27 Aug 2007, 11:35 AM
The link is not working. Will you post it again?

jasontoon
27 Aug 2007, 11:39 AM
Maybe this'll work: http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/news/stories.nsf/illinoisnews/story/3AEC54818CF19C4C8625734400037BB1?OpenDocument

IlliniOnFire
27 Aug 2007, 11:49 AM
The plan also called for about 1,600 homes, but Cooper said city officials have indicated they would like to see that number lowered.

The city's main concern is multi-unit housing, Knabel said. The project, as a whole, "looks like it makes sense, and the layout he presented looks pretty good."

But the city wants 80 percent of the housing to be single-family units. Currently, the city is at about 67 percent, Knabel said.

He said the city would consider more multi-unit housing, "but it has to be done in a judicious way."

oh good grief.

New Urbanism = nice multifamily units... this isn't gonna be squalor housing, its probably going to be nice condo's/townhomes to draw the yuppie/dink (young urban professional/dual income no kids) crowd in

Schwalker
27 Aug 2007, 03:40 PM
oh good grief.

New Urbanism = nice multifamily units... this isn't gonna be squalor housing, its probably going to be nice condo's/townhomes to draw the yuppie/dink (young urban professional/dual income no kids) crowd in


Anything wrong with that..?

PopsKrock
27 Aug 2007, 04:21 PM
The link is not working. Will you post it again?

The same thing happened to me earlier. the http at the front gets doubled and screws it up.

IlliniOnFire
27 Aug 2007, 04:27 PM
Anything wrong with that..?

no, not at all, its a great thing, but people hear "multifamily" over here and they instantly think Section 8 housing (and not homes for Chicago Fire fans)

Schwalker
27 Aug 2007, 04:35 PM
no, not at all, its a great thing, but people hear "multifamily" over here and they instantly think Section 8 housing (and not homes for Chicago Fire fans)

As I see it, given that the river is a psychological "Terminus Est" an attractive living area might build bridges to St.Louis proper...Or so I hope at least.

Monarch Bay Beachbum
27 Aug 2007, 07:00 PM
As I see it, given that the river is a psychological "Terminus Est" an attractive living area might build bridges to St.Louis proper...Or so I hope at least.


Shhhh, don't tell anybody, but there are already [B]many[B] attractive areas to live on the East Side.

sirfallsalot_2000
27 Aug 2007, 09:17 PM
The same thing happened to me earlier. the http at the front gets doubled and screws it up.

I thought I fixed that, though. Whatever.

I really think this might lead to a new attitude about the east side. I'm already a convert.

McGinty
27 Aug 2007, 11:04 PM
I really think this might lead to a new attitude about the east side. I'm already a convert.

And it's about damn time. I remember when telling people I was from Edwardsville would get the same reaction if I said I was from Ulaanbaatar.

I'm glad that not only will this land us an MLS team, but it will also help to further change perceptions about Metro East...even if it is Collinsville. ;)

Angus Podgorney
27 Aug 2007, 11:25 PM
And it's about damn time. I remember when telling people I was from Edwardsville got the same reaction if I said I was from Ulaanbaatar.


I guess that would be the Far East Side?:D

ironhead
27 Aug 2007, 11:38 PM
I'm from St. Louis (Missouri side) and, I'd have to say, I don't think I can recall ever hearing anyone bash the Metro-East. Where are you hearing this from? Perhaps I don't know a great deal about the finer points of Belleville vs. Collinsville, Edwardsville vs. Granite City, etc. but I really couldn't tell you too much about the difference between Affton vs. Fenton or Ellisville vs. Ballwin, either, probably because I've only lived in St. Charles and U-City (whilst in STL, that is).

I think it's safe to assume that most St. Louisans with half a brain are aware that there is a vast difference between East St. Louis and the rest of the towns/suburbs that comprise the Metro-East; I don't personally anticipate this alleged negative perception as being a barrier to the popularity of an MLS team located in Collinsville.

McGinty
28 Aug 2007, 12:01 AM
I'm from St. Louis (Missouri side) and, I'd have to say, I don't think I can recall ever hearing anyone bash the Metro-East.

I wouldn't say truly "bashing" the Metro-East.

I think people were always considered part of the St. Louis area, but I often noticed an assumption that living in Illinois essentially meant you lived in a rough neighborhood or just some quaint little town.

sirfallsalot_2000
28 Aug 2007, 10:58 AM
This is the conversation I've been having with casual fans (before the stadium announcement)
Me: Yeah, we might get an MLS team, and they're looking at Collinsville for the stadium....

"Why not downtown?"
"Isn't that in Illinois?"
"I'm not driving that far"
"It won't work if they build in Illinois. Where can they build in Missouri?"

However, since the stadium announcements I have found many "real" soccer fans who would gladly drive to Illinois. But you can see the bias.

Another example: I wanted to take my youth group to an event to Bellville, only to find out almost 0 people go from St. Louis. The reason, it's in IL. One person said "It's only a river, but it might as well be an ocean." Another called it "Ill-annoying". Ok, I liked that last one. :D