Can Africa actually host in 2010?

[superdave]

Originally posted by FunGuy
giving SA a GDP per capita of 8,500( all funds US),
When I was visiting my wife's family in Kenya, there was an article in the paper criticizing Kenya for its maldistribution of wealth. They said only South Africa had worse income disparity.

My point being, in the case of South Africa, I'd be less interested in the average than the median. I think you'd find a pretty shocking difference between the two figures.

[superdave]

Originally posted by saabrian
So why this vehement objection?
What I'm vehement about is the stupid rotation policy. The implication is that there are as many nations capable of hosting the thing in Oceania as Europe, which is beyond stupid on its face.

WRT South Africa, I'm better described as highly dubious than vehement. ;)

[dcc134]

Originally posted by owendylan


This will not happen. The Aussie federation has no money and playing games in Aussie Rules stadiums won't fly with FIFA. hey don't have enough quality stadiums or the money to build new ones. Also the government has come out against submitting a bid. This one will go nowhere quickly.

You obviously don't what you are talking about.

Every stadium in Japan execpt one had a track.

Australia has plently of stadiums to host the World Cup. Sydney and Melbourne have at least 3 capable. Olympic soccer was also played in Brisbane and Canberra. Adelaide and Perth also have multiple stadia to chose from. Also, if Australia would bid it would be likely that is would co-host with NZ who also have plently of stadiums to chose from.

I don't know the governments take at this point, but with its support, WC is a definte possibility. All the infrastructure is there. It is just a matter or will. A far better option than SA.

PS. In South Africa, the whites still control most of the money, but they aren't into soccer at all. Its cricket and rubgy. The black population is into soccer, but unforuntately the vast majority is below the poverty level. Hardly the local support required to fill stadia for those "meaningless" matches.

The WC is far to big for a country with little infrastructure, poor security, and no hotels to host. A WC in SA would look like MLS games with half empty stadia. What about training facilities for the teams?

Ain't gonna happen.

[Napoli_Ultra]

My 2 cents on this is that althought SA has a lot of problems, I still believe they could pull it off. I mean this is the country that have transformed from the oppresive aparthied gov't to a multi-cultural without a bloody revolution. They may end up losing money on host the WC, but if given a chance, SA would pull out all the stops to show the world they can do it.

[Maczebus]

Have people actually listened to themselves?

Morocco to host the WC???
Egypt???
Maybe Libya?

Nowhere in Africa is a suitable location for the WC.
The only place with the potential for it to happen is South Africa and that (as some posters on here have said) is a road strewn with obstacles.

I would prefer it to go to Australia than anywhere in Africa, and I really don't want it to go to Australia. But at least they have proved they can host something of this magnitude (but that's their only plus point).

[dirk diggler]

There is a key question being left out of this debate:
What do the sponsors want?
According to a report on Futbol Mundial several weeks ago, many of the longtime sponsors(unnamed) are threatening to pull out of the tournament if it is held anywhere in Africa. They don't want to pay for a tournament that has a good chance of turning into a fiasco and tranishing their "good" names.

[Chowderhead]

At our Saturday morning kick-around, some dude was insisting that Sierra Leone and Liberia were going to launch a joint bid. Maybe he was talking bollocks.

[GoHawks4]

Fare from LAX to Johannesburg on United Airlines:

5178.92 USD per person

O'hare and JFK don't have flights to anywhere in SA.

[astar24]

Reasons why Africa will get WC2010:
1. It was promised
2. South Africa was 1 vote away from getting 2006
which means they have the potential to host it.
3. Africa is the only continent to not have hosted a world cup before.
4. They have (6) 50,000+ capacity seat stadiums.

Yes there are issues that have to be sorted out such as the times of the games around the world, and the ability to fill these stadiums during the tournament, but those are always issues.

Some of the stadiums may have to be renovated but they will not start rebuilded the stadiums unless they are awarded the wc otherwise they will be wasting money.

[GoHawks4]

Promised? What does that matter. ANYTHING to get votes.

[asdf]

What about Tunisia? I think Morocco or Morocco/Tunisa gets it.

[FunGuy]

South Africa has the infastructure, money, security, and will to host the cup, amound all it's races. is everyone forgetting the rugby world cup that was held there, i don't remember hearing about any problem with that cup. SA also is better equiped to handle the cup than morocco, egypt, and tunisa. the south africa government also has more money than those countries

[superdave]

Originally posted by Chowderhead
At our Saturday morning kick-around, some dude was insisting that Sierra Leone and Liberia were going to launch a joint bid. Maybe he was talking bollocks.
Sierra F****** Leone?!?!?! The country where the guerrillas were chopping off people's arms?!?!?!

Iraq has a better chance. Vatican City has a better chance. Good God almighty, some people....

I'm not going to pile on the person who said "it was promised" is a reason it'll go to SAfrica.

[HaywoodJablome]

Wow, South Africa held the rugby World Cup!

[thepremierleague]

The US will not get the WC in 2014, let alone 2010.

I think anyone suggesting this is totally ignorant of football history, tradition and fairness.

England had the WC last in 1966, the USA as recently in 1994.

Do you honestly think the USA will get the WC again, twice in 20 years before England?

I'll cut off my balls and hand them to you if the USA gets it before 2022 because nobody will vote for them in Europe and Africa.

[saabrian]

Originally posted by asdf
What about Tunisia? I think Morocco or Morocco/Tunisa gets it.

Uh, that's highly unlikely, the latter anyway. Morocco and Tunisia don't border each other. They both border Algeria, which is in NO position to host any major tournament.

[saabrian]

Originally posted by GoHawks4
Fare from LAX to Johannesburg on United Airlines:

5178.92 USD per person

O'hare and JFK don't have flights to anywhere in SA.

At Spector Travel of Boston, you can get tickets from New York to Johannesburg starting from $1050 round trip. Not prohibitive at all.

http://www.spectortravel.com/Pages/tickets.html

[saabrian]

Originally posted by Chowderhead
At our Saturday morning kick-around, some dude was insisting that Sierra Leone and Liberia were going to launch a joint bid. Maybe he was talking bollocks.

It's a cruel joke, actually. Sierra Leone is just emerging from a brutal 10 year civil war. They just had free elections but they can't bother thinking about even the African Nations Cup for at least another 30 years. Liberia is going back into civil war. Sadly, I have friends in both countries.

[saabrian]

Originally posted by thepremierleague
The US will not get the WC in 2014, let alone 2010.

I think anyone suggesting this is totally ignorant of football history, tradition and fairness.

England had the WC last in 1966, the USA as recently in 1994.

Do you honestly think the USA will get the WC again, twice in 20 years before England?

I'll cut off my balls and hand them to you if the USA gets it before 2022 because nobody will vote for them in Europe and Africa.

Germany will have had it twice since '66 too.

Besides, I wouldn't exclude some kind of deal where CONCACAF helps make sure an African country gets it in 2010 in exchange for CAF voting for a US candidacy in 2014.

[kenntomasch]

Originally posted by thepremierleague
The US will not get the WC in 2014, let alone 2010.

I think anyone suggesting this is totally ignorant of football history, tradition and fairness.

England had the WC last in 1966, the USA as recently in 1994.

Do you honestly think the USA will get the WC again, twice in 20 years before England?

I'll cut off my balls and hand them to you if the USA gets it before 2022 because nobody will vote for them in Europe and Africa.

How'd your bid for 2006 go, there, sir?

How's that new Wembley coming along?

Your country going to pull off a more successful World Cup than we Yanks (who, as everyone knows, shouldn't be playing football in the first place (http://www.kenn.com/play/wanker.html)) anytime soon?

You may have to take our word for it that the 1994 World Cup was very successful, seeing as how you guys didn't get to experience it firsthand. :)

Have a nice day. And have your Mighty Titan ready.