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The Sundance Kid
24 Aug 2007, 10:47 AM
okay, whatever we think of him, mourinho is handsome, we know that, the ladies love him, he has a swagger, a bad boy image, an attitude. benitez by contrast is a bit on the tubby side, not that that's a bad thing (in case any of you are fat). mourinho has a natural style, a natural presence, not even his harshest critics can deny that. the best designers want to dress him. benitez probably doesn't get the same offers. do you think rafa the gaffer might be jealous? everyone knows he hates mourinho. everyone is fascinated with mourinho, more newsprint is devoted to him than probably anyone else on the planet. mourinho just has this kind of allure, whatever the reason i think we have to accept it. he demands attention. do you think that's why rafa grew the goatee beard? to be more fashionable? and now he's moaning, is he trying to copy mourinho's style of management? has he come to the conclusion that mourinho wins league titles and trophies at whichever club he's at every single season because of the siege mentality he engenders? has rafa dispensed with the nice guy image and started trying to emulate "the special one" (as he's known)? what do you guys think?

personally, i think liverpool were unlucky against chelsea, a bad decision went against them, but i think they could have taken it with a bit more dignity, after all, liverpool were the beneficieries of a dodgy decision against villa, thanks to gerrard pulling rank with the referee. against chelsea, liverpool have had their fair share of favourable decisions, so it would have been more dignified to keep quite maybe? especially after all the rumpus in athens.

now rafa's stoking up a war of words with the manager of the current champions (fergie), and fergie's responded by saying he's got a "chip on his shoulder", which is a blatent reference to rafa's weight, as in he's eaten too many potato chips.

rafa clearly wants to emulate the success of fergie and mourinho, but is he going the right way about it by copying them? is he being clever or stupid? is he cracking under the strain of splashing the cash and heightening expectations?

he keeps saying man utd and chelsea have bought their success, but he's spent more than fergie since he's been in england, and everton finished above liverpool in his first season, despite him spending far more than them, so his argument seems a little bit illogical to say the least.

is the goatee a sign that he's having a mid-life crisis? certainly it seems a strange thing for a middle-aged man to do, especially one who's a little bit large around the waist (no offence to fat people). what next, will he be turning up for training in his leathers on a harley? i hope not, because i don't think he can carry it off, it's not his style, he needs to accept who he is.

fergie doesn't try and be anything other than what he is, he's a man comfortable in his own skin it seems to me, maybe because he's older and he knows how good he is, he doesn't suffer from an inferiority complex, maybe that's it, who knows.

is rafa's moaning a sign that he's lost the plot or is it a calculated and astute strategy on his part?

in other words, he's looked at the guys who keep winning league titles and decided he needs to do things a bit more like them?

discuss.

Invincible
24 Aug 2007, 10:49 AM
Someone skipped grammar class. Sort it out dude.

Stud83
24 Aug 2007, 11:00 AM
is the goatee a sign that he's having a mid-life crisis?

:D Nice

Vermont Red
24 Aug 2007, 11:01 AM
NM, will you please move this to the "Who Gives A Shit?" forum.

Achtung
24 Aug 2007, 11:06 AM
and fergie's responded by saying he's got a "chip on his shoulder", which is a blatent reference to rafa's weight, as in he's eaten too many potato chips.

I love it. :D

sdotsom
24 Aug 2007, 11:25 AM
I think Rafa is trying to copy Fergie, but he's not as good as it. Trying to develop a siege mentality with this "Prem is against us crap" won't work - hell his own players probably don't even buy it. And the goatee? Wtf Rafa. When Jose changes his haircut, or stops wearing a suit, they mention it in the rags. But no one really gives a damn about your goat - he just looks like child molester now - you know, trying to fit in at Merseyside.

J'can
24 Aug 2007, 11:50 AM
If you define success as winning the league then Rafa has not been but if you broaden the scope then yes. He has an FA cup and CL and been to the final of the CL in a seperate occassion.

Having said that you are right Mourinho does draw attention and seems sauve. All the managers of hte top 4 have an identity about them that is almost synonomous with them. Wenger is the same JM and SAF. But Rafa is struggling for that. In a way so is his team. You know how Chel, Ars, Man Utd (I added the "td" like i was told :D) but Liverpool is like htere manager, suffering from an identity crisis......................

So you may be spot on in that his appearance is showing his lack of self............. Hate to say this but good point...............

SirManchester
24 Aug 2007, 11:50 AM
Is Benitez trying to emulate Ferguson or Mourinho or is Benitez trying to do a manager's job and try to win?

hmm....

prymetyme
24 Aug 2007, 11:58 AM
I think he is happy with last years failures. Why would he want to improve. :confused:

prymetyme
24 Aug 2007, 11:58 AM
I love it. :D

sigged.

Invincible
24 Aug 2007, 12:05 PM
BIG FAT BIG FAT RAFA
BIG FAT BIG FAT RAFA
BIG FAT BIG FAT RAFA
BIG FAT RAFA BENITEZ

Oh and who does he think he is rocking a goatee this season? Casanova?

cr7torossi
24 Aug 2007, 12:35 PM
nice :D

Benitez is a fat scouse bastard, wonder when he will start nicking hubcaps.

Vermont Red
24 Aug 2007, 12:41 PM
Are there any men who aren't fat that feature goatees anymore?

Rooneys Hairline
24 Aug 2007, 12:42 PM
Who deleted my posts in here?

Vermont Red
24 Aug 2007, 12:43 PM
Who deleted my posts in here?

Probably NM.

Rooneys Hairline
24 Aug 2007, 12:44 PM
Probably NM.
Sorry, I didn't realize someone had to be a club's fan to post in their forum.

Carry on with the censorship.

Vermont Red
24 Aug 2007, 12:46 PM
Sorry, I didn't realize someone had to be a club's fan to post in their forum.

Carry on with the censorship.

Did you post something worthwhile? Our mods are pretty lenient. I suspect that your post was completely without merit.

Rooneys Hairline
24 Aug 2007, 12:46 PM
Did you post something worthwhile? Our mods are pretty lenient. I suspect that your post was completely without merit.
It actually was a response to the initial post, saying that I felt Rafa had some newfound confidence because of Liverpool's new signings or something to that effect. I can only assume my handle offended someone. It's fine, just curious. Carry on.

Vermont Red
24 Aug 2007, 12:48 PM
It actually was a response to the initial post, saying that I felt Rafa had some newfound confidence because of Liverpool's new signings or something to that effect. I can only assume my handle offended someone. It's fine, just curious. Carry on.

If you really have a question then you should PM one of the mods. Your screen name is barely offensive. Remember, we revere Bobby Charlton.

Rooneys Hairline
24 Aug 2007, 12:52 PM
If you really have a question then you should PM one of the mods. Your screen name is barely offensive. Remember, we revere Bobby Charlton.
:D Eh, no lie.

I will just say again, that I don't really care about Rafa's appearence, etc.

I don't think Rafa and Jose have ever really got along, and now Benitez realizes he has a team capable of challenging on all fronts. My guess would be most of the other Premier League managers have tired of Mourinho's act. Nothing profound here, but I am not suprised to see a new swagger with Liverpool. Man United is off to a slow start, but with that kind of talent and when they get back Rooney/Saha we'll see if Rafa is so confident later in the season.