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MaRoC-2007
24 Aug 2007, 07:47 AM
I want to know people ideas....of who the best Arabian Player of the world is....not-including Zidane i mean because he never played with Algeria or an Arab Team...?? He played with France..so it doesnt count..

My Opinion...I think the best is the Moroccan Mustapha Hadji and many many people will probably agree with me....:)

Also..There is already a big discussion here:

http://forums.soccerfansnetwork.com/showthread.php?t=29722

Most People said M.Hadji....who scored one of the best goals in the world...a double kick from far against Egypt ( Which will never be forgotten )

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7037987716953725660

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mustapha_Hadji

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Saudi64
24 Aug 2007, 11:15 AM
Majed Abdullah, great player but he didn't come in the right time. Sami AlJaber is also close behind, I think he's the most Arab and Asian player to score in the WC (3). Also you should have mentioned Saeed AlOwairan, instead of Yasser. Scored the 6th best goal in WC history, best player in Asia 1994.

Bonizzoni
24 Aug 2007, 01:27 PM
Yousef Al Thanian.

IraqiFootball
24 Aug 2007, 01:32 PM
Ismael Matar on the list!? That guy is so ineffective, he's nothing special.

MaRoC-2007
24 Aug 2007, 02:33 PM
Majed Abdullah, great player but he didn't come in the right time. Sami AlJaber is also close behind, I think he's the most Arab and Asian player to score in the WC (3). Also you should have mentioned Saeed AlOwairan, instead of Yasser. Scored the 6th best goal in WC history, best player in Asia 1994.

Majed Abdullah is nothing when comparing to Mustapha Hadji who France NT wanted him to play with them...if he accepted he would be like Zidane - known to the whole world...but instead he chose to play for his Country...

...France NT wouldnt have chosen him if he wasnt so great

Did you see that Double-Kick?? :eek:

EstebanGranero23
24 Aug 2007, 03:50 PM
11 of the 15 players are from Africa. This doesnt belong in Asia.

Moved.

EstebanGranero23
24 Aug 2007, 03:54 PM
Other: Firas Al-Khateeb(Syria) Too bad he comes from the wrong country. Easily the best player in the Kuwaiti League for the past 4 years.

IraqiFootball
24 Aug 2007, 06:36 PM
Other: Firas Al-Khateeb(Syria) Too bad he comes from the wrong country. Easily the best player in the Kuwaiti League for the past 4 years.
Kuwait league is crap though. But his 2 goals vs. Al-Zawraa (Iraq) in the ACL were very classy I must admit. His team still lost though.

EstebanGranero23
24 Aug 2007, 06:43 PM
I tellin' ya. He is always on the wrong team. Poor guy.

Azad-der-Bozz
25 Aug 2007, 07:32 AM
Ahmad RAdhi

MaRoC-2007
25 Aug 2007, 07:39 AM
M.Hadji 4 votes......hmmm

aLi.W
25 Aug 2007, 12:39 PM
Who made this tread? u who did u SUCK

Ahmad Radhi Should be on it, and WIN IT, Becouse u suck and your hole country suck

Iraq Pawn your Desert country any time

Ahmad Radhi = Iraq Ahmad Radhi = Iraq Ahmad Radhi = IraqA hmad Radhi = Iraq

IraqiFootball
25 Aug 2007, 12:44 PM
Dude, why don't you STFU. You're an embarrassment. I hope they ban you. Sad part is, you're not even a sock.

brassmonkey
26 Aug 2007, 01:02 AM
not-including Zidane i mean because he never played with Algeria or an Arab Team...?? He played with France..so it doesnt count..


Zidane wouldn't count anyway, because he's not Arab, of ancestry, language, or by birth in a majority Arab nation.

MaRoC-2007
26 Aug 2007, 06:06 AM
Zidane is an Arab...he is Algerian brough up in France :) same as Mustapha Hadji

brassmonkey
26 Aug 2007, 11:38 AM
Zidane is an Arab...he is Algerian brough up in France :) same as Mustapha Hadji

Algerian does not equal Arab. That's like saying South African = Black, therefore making PW Botha a black man. Zidane would probably be pretty pissed if someone called him an Arab, seeing as how repressed by Arabs his people are.

MaRoC-2007
27 Aug 2007, 02:34 AM
Algerian does not equal Arab. That's like saying South African = Black, therefore making PW Botha a black man. Zidane would probably be pretty pissed if someone called him an Arab, seeing as how repressed by Arabs his people are.

Please dont tell me what is an Arab and what isnt..because i am Arab :rolleyes: im Moroccan and my Grandmother is from Algeria....they are our Neighbours...

...and im sure that the reason you are saying he isnt arab is because you Europeans/Non-Arabs are bloody jealous of us having such a wonderful Arab player...

Also....another thing...that shows he is Arab...is when he knocked stupid Materazzi down...when he insulted his country...and that shows that he is Arab...because Arabs are known to be "hot-headed" as you call it...also he doesnt look like a Non-Arab:rolleyes:

Excape Goat
27 Aug 2007, 11:10 AM
I thought Zidane is a Berber.

The best Arab player should be Rabah Madjer. Well, I just double-checked. he is also listed as a Berber.

brassmonkey
27 Aug 2007, 11:49 AM
Please dont tell me what is an Arab and what isnt..because i am Arab :rolleyes: im Moroccan and my Grandmother is from Algeria....they are our Neighbours...

...and im sure that the reason you are saying he isnt arab is because you Europeans/Non-Arabs are bloody jealous of us having such a wonderful Arab player...

Also....another thing...that shows he is Arab...is when he knocked stupid Materazzi down...when he insulted his country...and that shows that he is Arab...because Arabs are known to be "hot-headed" as you call it...also he doesnt look like a Non-Arab:rolleyes:

Well, obviously you don't understand what the difference between nationality and race is. Algeria is a majority Arab nation, but guess what? It also has a minority who are not Arab that were there before the Arabs. They're called the Berbers, and in Zidane's case he is a Kabyle Berber, from Kabylie. His family speaks Kabyle, not Arabic. Kabyles do not consider themselves Arab in any way. This has gotten them in trouble with the government of Algeria, that wants to impose the Arabic language and Arab culture on the Berbers. It has also gotten them in trouble with the Islamists in the country, because Berbers typically drink alcohol, listen to music, wear revealing western clothing, and are generally intellectually western. These factors have caused thousands of Kabyles to be slaughtered.

Why would I be jealous if "Arabs" had a great player? I'm pretty much an Irish/Native American mix. There aren't that many great Irish players and certainly not many Native Americans. If I cared at all that players were of my race then I wouldn't like football. But I'm not some Nazi who likes or dislikes footballers for racial reasons.

No, Materazzi didn't say anything about Zidane's country, and if he did then that wouldn't mean anything, because Zidane's family is from Algeria, but that doesn't make them Arabs, just as being from Holland doesn't make Edgar Davids white.

And don't put words in my mouth I didn't say. I never said Arabs were "hot-headed". I never said anything bad about Arabs at all. Are you on crack?

And he doesn't look like he's Arab to me. At least he doesn't look like a North African Arab. He's got wild green eyes(a trait of Kabyle Berbers) and pale skin. His recent skin hue is from tanning, not natural. Take a look at pictures of him playing in Turin, he's as pale as a ghost. If anything you could say he actually looks Persian

Excape Goat
27 Aug 2007, 01:15 PM
I don't want to get into this Arab-Berber debate. Mustapha Hadji is also a Berber according to many sources.