View Full Version : Beasley's weight (R)
superdave
06 Jul 2003, 07:51 PM
Alot of people think he needs to add weight. Some respond that that would slow him down.
That move early in the game shows that the critical thing is HOW he puts on weight. His change of direction that led to the first goal was just sick. I would not have thought that possible on grass (astroturf, sure, but not God's own green stuff.) That's because as light as DMB is, he has a great strength to weight ratio, cuz he ain't got no weight.
So long as he continues to play out wide, I don't think he needs to add any weight. His otherworldly stamina and acceleration and ability to change direction would all likely suffer. If he wants to play in the middle, maybe he should add a few pounds so that he can ride tackles better. But if he chooses to do that, it's CRITICAL that he work with a really smart, soccer savvy personal trainer, so that he doesn't disturb his magnificent strength to weight ratio.
the only negative thing i see about his weight is that when contact ensues he's more likely to go down than any other player. He might not be acting but the ref will be more reluctant to call a foul when he gets bumped and leveled.
dont worry about him getting too stalky and what not, soccer wont let that happen with the amount of calories you burn day in and day out.
Danks81
06 Jul 2003, 09:30 PM
DaMarcus is young and a great athlete. In my opinion if he got the proper trainer and program, he could add 10-15 lbs of muscle to his frame without sacrificing his speed and quickness. However it should not be done over one offseason, it should be a more gradual progression so he can adjust to his greater mass properly.
sch2383
06 Jul 2003, 09:40 PM
Look at how Kobe Bryant added all the muscle during the offseason. He didn't sacrifce any of his quickness, speed, or leaping ability. But you are right, it is how he adds weight that is important.
dj43
06 Jul 2003, 09:49 PM
At 21, he will naturally add a little weight as he matures. But he is also spending a good deal of time in the weight room now as are all members of the Nats. This is just a guy with a slender physique right now that happens to be destroying the opponent with blazing speed and now some new moves.
Don't believe me. Just go back and look at some of the Fire tapes from 2 years ago. At that time he had 1 move: push it by and outrun the defender. Now he is much more complete and part of that is the fact that he is able to fight his way into the box for headers. The one chance he had today was not the result of a 98 pound weakling getting blown through the air by a puff of wind.
The guy is stronger and better by a wide margin now that he was a year ago. In another year he will be even better.
Probably more than weight (which he does need), he needs to add moves (take some samba/merengue lessons), and be able to cross to a player in a position in which he can do something with it. Oh yeah, better shooting too.
Defensive hustle, positioning. Check.
Anticipation and Reacting to situations quickly. Big Check
Using speed appropriately. Mostly check.
Heart and desire. Big Check
Captain10
07 Jul 2003, 09:23 AM
This issue of weight has been beat into the ground. Beasley's size is just fine. As far as size goes, Robinho of Brasil could be his twin and there's noone clammoring for him to put on weight. Just watch him in the Gold Cup ... it's about your play and not just about being physical.
RoverMax
07 Jul 2003, 11:50 AM
I think Beasley should add some muscle to his upper body and legs, but if he added fat it would slow him down and make him a worse player. If he is going to add weight, it should be through muscle, but adding fat would make him a worse player.
bostonsoccermdl
07 Jul 2003, 01:33 PM
Originally posted by superdave
But if he chooses to do that, it's CRITICAL that he work with a really smart, soccer savvy personal trainer, so that he doesn't disturb his magnificent strength to weight ratio.
Exactly. For players in general, when putting on weight it is important to do it in a balanced approach to avoid losing balance and proportion. Also a gradual weight gain is most desirable to maintain your performance, rather than a "crash course" 2000 Calorie weightgainers and and powerlifiting routine..
Having said that, Unless Beasley takes anabolic steroids, he doesnt have the bonestructure or genetics to "get big." some players have it, some dont. So I wouldnt worry about him slowing down due to a increase in weight, his bonestrucure and metabolism simply wont allow it....
Contrast this to Oguchi ONyewu (dubbed Colossus by metz teamates)who at 6'4" and 215 lbs, has been told to STAY OUT of the weightroom by his coaches at Metz due to his genetic tendency to pack on muscle relativly effortlessly..
sch2383
07 Jul 2003, 02:01 PM
Originally posted by bostonsoccermdl
Contrast this to Oguchi ONyewu (dubbed Colossus by metz teamates)who at 6'4" and 215 lbs, has been told to STAY OUT of the weightroom by his coaches at Metz due to his genetic tendency to pack on muscle relativly effortlessly..
If he can pack on muscle without his speed, quickness, or stamina going down, then he should hit the weightroom.
Liguista
07 Jul 2003, 02:17 PM
A great strength to weight ratio means nothing when you weigh as little as he does. Sure, a fly has a great strength to weight ratio, and you can kill it easily if you can ever catch one, which is not the case with DMB, cos the second he is touched he goes down. That boy needs to add some muscle weight. Most everyone out weighs him 15-20 lbf.
It wouldn't hurt for him to work on his passing as well (baring yesterday).
Liguista
superdave
07 Jul 2003, 03:15 PM
Originally posted by Liguista
A great strength to weight ratio means nothing when you weigh as little as he does. Sure, a fly has a great strength to weight ratio, and you can kill it easily if you can ever catch one,
It ain't easy to catch one, is it?
QED
bostonsoccermdl
07 Jul 2003, 03:58 PM
Originally posted by sch2383
If he can pack on muscle without his speed, quickness, or stamina going down, then he should hit the weightroom.
Who? Gooch or Beasley?
Beasley, of course.
Gooch left Clemson around 180 and quickly shot up to around 215 (this is all courtesy of a SoccerAmerica articly btw) in attempt to improve his strength. The article hinted that at his new size, he was beginning to sacrifice speed, quickness, etc, hence the order to stay out of the gym..
sch2383
07 Jul 2003, 05:26 PM
Originally posted by bostonsoccermdl
Who? Gooch or Beasley?
Beasley, of course.
Gooch left Clemson around 180 and quickly shot up to around 215 (this is all courtesy of a SoccerAmerica articly btw) in attempt to improve his strength. The article hinted that at his new size, he was beginning to sacrifice speed, quickness, etc, hence the order to stay out of the gym..
I was talking about Gooch, since I have never seen him play and if he is slowing down, then he probably would be at his best in the 190s.
Deimos
07 Jul 2003, 07:37 PM
Can someone give me a specific example that shows how Beasley is too light and gets knocked off the ball easily?
Please follow with an example, including specific references, of an equally skilled and fast midfielder who is heavier and does not get knocked off the ball.
Danks81
07 Jul 2003, 09:42 PM
One word. Giggs.
Deimos
07 Jul 2003, 10:36 PM
Originally posted by Danks81
One word. Giggs.
Giggs 5-11 149
Beasley 5-7 137
So I assume you are saying that by virtue of his 4 inch height advantage and 12 pound weight advantage, Giggs does not get knocked off the ball as much and is thus a much better player.