Juan sebastian Veron: News & Interviews

[dogfried]

Valeron is a worse tackler than Paul Scholes. Come on.
Please. It simply cannot be argued that Valeron and Riquelme are similar defensively.


So........scoring 3 against Brasil wasn't enough?
I'd like to think that a formation and style for a home game would be the same as on a neutral site but I'm not delusional. Also, Saviola worked as a second forward and Cambiasso wasn't there.

Getting back to Veron. I'd like to say experience is on his side having been apart of the 2002 squad, however, he was the main scapegoat for the team's massive disappointment. It can be argued this renders his experience useless, and possibly even a negative thing. Newspapers called for Aimar to replace him with only one game in last time around. I don't know if he can shake it off mentally.

[ECMoney]

Cambiasso has yet to play well for the national side (although he's been ripping it up at Inter so far this season).

I wouldn't go that far!
He is playing ok, as all of Inter are but he is not ripping up anything.

[bsas]

Samuel is our best international defender.


Samuel es mas malo que pegarle a la madre!.. ;)

Our great defenders imho are: Ayala, Heinze and Coloccini.

Left mid-field, no other choice than Zanetti. This man is a beast, goes up and down the line, and makes for great passes. Sorin on the right, Ok. Everyone here is never questioning that, so I won't either ;)

In the center, Riquelme is a great choice, but I also feel that he often lacks speed, or even motivation. I mean when you look at him sometime he looks like bored to be there ;)

That's why I feel changing him for Veron, or even Aimar at half time may not be a bad idea.

Forwards, Crespo of course, but also Tevez, please!!! And Messi, yes!!!

Mariano

[bsas]

Left mid-field, no other choice than Zanetti. This man is a beast, goes up and down the line, and makes for great passes. Sorin on the right, Ok. Everyone here is never questioning that, so I won't either ;)

Sorry, again mixed up my left and right ;) Zanetti on the right and Sorin on the left ;)

[argentine soccer fan]

Is there any chance that he will come back to National Team duty. No offense but Riquelme on his best day hardly touches Seba, Riquelme goes missing easily in my view.

Just wondering what Argentineans thought of Seba?

What do we think of Seba?

Lo que usted quiera, mi General.

:D

[argentine soccer fan]

Veron and Riquelme CANNOT play together. Both demand that play run through them. They need a lot of time on the ball. They can't both have that; one of them will be useless. IMHO, a 3 back set (with Ayala, Coloccini and Heinze, no Samuel), Zanetti and Sorin as wingbacks, Mascherano, Cambiasso, Lucho and Riquelme in midfield and Crespo up top would be the best option Argentina has.
Aimar can come in for Cambiasso if Argentina expects to have a lot of possession, or they can replace him with Tevez to play 2 up top.

I would not play Lucho and Cambiasso together. Both should be tried alongside Mascherano, or another defensive mid (Demichelis, Duscher, Batagglia, Coloccini) if Mascherano is not available. Then I'd play either Aimar or Tevez, to pair with Crespo.

Other than that, I like this lineup. Messi should be part of the team, but at this point I'd say not a starter. Veron, I am not sure if I'd even include him in the list. I think I would go with the younger players. I'd include D'alessandro before Veron.

[Xeneize12]

So........scoring 3 against Brasil wasn't enough?



You say 5-3-2, I say 3-5-2. Tomato/tomato. Its worked before and it can work for Argentina again. Its not as defensive as you're making it out to be, because it would maintain a lot of possession and provide Riquelme time on the ball, which is what you need if you're going to use him as the focal point of the side.






Argentina can never score enough goals against Brasil (and vice-versa).

3-5-2 worked great in 86. This is the system Pekerman has been using in the past few matches. It's more like a 3-4-1-2 though, simply because there is a defined enganche (usually Roman). But that's just nit-picking. It can be defensive, but it hardly is for Argentina (as you point out). Also, just because you use X number of defenders doesn't mean you're play defensive or offensive. The type of player you have would determine that (i.e. Passarella, Lucio, Roberto Carlos, Cafu....all "defenders" but all in love with attacking)
The good thing about the 3-5-2 (and Peckerman) is its flexibility. For example, by using Sorin and Zanetti on the wings/side midfield, they can come back for defense and create a back-line of 5. This is good against European teams which pressure from the sides, it should help Argentina ward off aerial attacks---their historical silver bullet. Offensively, Zanetti can break down the righ like any other (perhaps better than any other). Sorin also seems to appear for a header at the perfect time.

Pekerman's call-ups have mostly been versatile players than can play different midfield positions. It seems like the 5 midfielders will by dynamically changing their position (for lack of a better word) as the game dictates.
I also like the fact that Argentina is learning how to play without the ball. This is something that I think Bielsa's teams lacked.

Veron
After watching him at Inter again, he is a necessary call-up. He is magical. His passing is as accurate as ever and he has now increased his defensive skills (not like a DM, but at least he pressures the ball well). He is an alternative to have on the bench. He is the only player for Argentina, aside from Riquelme, that can feed a 40yard pass....something important in a world cup where you might want to play a counter-attack (while guarding a result, for instance.)

Even if what others say is true (Veron and Riquelme can't play together, which I don't necessarily agree) If at some point we don't want to play with a defined enganche. He and cambiasso or Marcherano would make a great midfield combo. Veron can also play on the right midfield too...

[El viejo Matias]

Not calling up Veron would be a mistake I think most would agree on that... he is so skilled at picking up loose balls and disrupting an opponents play then quickly with one magic pass turning it into a chance for his team.

[Futballer]

Veron should be called up, hes playing great.....hopefully he keeps it up.

[leoriver]

Veron is a great player but his time has gone by.We need players that are hungrier.Veron is like Riquelme if they dont give them the ball they wont do jack.I understand the position they play and it doesnt deal with so much of marking opponents but alot of times I dont think they give it their all.

And dont know what the "dirigentes" of River are thinking about bringing him to River.I dont think the fans will welcome him.Especially teams in Argentina where the fans are very hostile y si no pone lo que hay que poner.Look what happen to Esnaider,Pizzi,Fonseca,etc...Most players that won alot in Europe,played in the National team for some time, and have a shyt load of cash they wont play the same ever if they return back to their country.And players like that we dont need.Only team I think he will do ok in is in Estudiantes,team he came out of.

[Xeneize12]

I can't agree that Veron "no pone lo que hay que poner." Have you seen him play with Inter last year or this year (especially this year)? He is in phenominal form and has really increased his marking and pressuring of the ball. You can say that there is no place for him on the team or that his time has passed (everyone has the right to their own opinion on this) However, I don't think it's a fair statement to say that he doesn't give it his all.

[leoriver]

I can't agree that Veron "no pone lo que hay que poner." Have you seen him play with Inter last year or this year (especially this year)? He is in phenominal form and has really increased his marking and pressuring of the ball. You can say that there is no place for him on the team or that his time has passed (everyone has the right to their own opinion on this) However, I don't think it's a fair statement to say that he doesn't give it his all.

I understand your point of view and all but till he comes back to some team in Argentina or if he gets another chance at the national team we will never know.

[vipnerd]

Argentina can never score enough goals against Brasil (and vice-versa).

3-5-2 worked great in 86. This is the system Pekerman has been using in the past few matches. It's more like a 3-4-1-2 though, simply because there is a defined enganche (usually Roman). But that's just nit-picking. It can be defensive, but it hardly is for Argentina (as you point out). Also, just because you use X number of defenders doesn't mean you're play defensive or offensive. The type of player you have would determine that (i.e. Passarella, Lucio, Roberto Carlos, Cafu....all "defenders" but all in love with attacking)
The good thing about the 3-5-2 (and Peckerman) is its flexibility. For example, by using Sorin and Zanetti on the wings/side midfield, they can come back for defense and create a back-line of 5. This is good against European teams which pressure from the sides, it should help Argentina ward off aerial attacks---their historical silver bullet. Offensively, Zanetti can break down the righ like any other (perhaps better than any other). Sorin also seems to appear for a header at the perfect time.

Pekerman's call-ups have mostly been versatile players than can play different midfield positions. It seems like the 5 midfielders will by dynamically changing their position (for lack of a better word) as the game dictates.
I also like the fact that Argentina is learning how to play without the ball. This is something that I think Bielsa's teams lacked.

Veron
After watching him at Inter again, he is a necessary call-up. He is magical. His passing is as accurate as ever and he has now increased his defensive skills (not like a DM, but at least he pressures the ball well). He is an alternative to have on the bench. He is the only player for Argentina, aside from Riquelme, that can feed a 40yard pass....something important in a world cup where you might want to play a counter-attack (while guarding a result, for instance.)

Even if what others say is true (Veron and Riquelme can't play together, which I don't necessarily agree) If at some point we don't want to play with a defined enganche. He and cambiasso or Marcherano would make a great midfield combo. Veron can also play on the right midfield too...

Agree 100% with you.

In WC02 Bielsa forgot one of his suitcases back in Baires ... he had Riquelme inside it. :rolleyes:

For WC06 Pekerman won't make the mistake of leaving behind a suitcase with Veron in it. Are you freakin kidding me? It is a 7 match tournie, injuries and suspensions can't disrupt the level of the NT. Even if it is to play the last 30 minutes, either to close the back or to add agressiveness in attack, Veron HAS to be in Germany.

Leo ... Veron's level at Inter is superb. Forget about WC02, that was 4 yrs ago! ... he arrived burned to the WC. You think Ferguson didn't want to see him burned for the group stage game against England? :rolleyes:


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[leoriver]

Leo ... Veron's level at Inter is superb. Forget about WC02, that was 4 yrs ago! ... he arrived burned to the WC. You think Ferguson didn't want to see him burned for the group stage game against England? :rolleyes:

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Tipico bostero buscando excusas :rolleyes:

;)

[vipnerd]

Tipico bostero buscando excusas :rolleyes:

;)


Es mejor buscar excusas que tener que buscar equipo. :p



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[leoriver]

Es mejor buscar excusas que tener que buscar equipo. :p



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Con River en la buenas y en la malas :D

[vipnerd]

Con River en la buenas y en la malas :D


Sabés que no tenés que sufrir tanto verdad? **hint: leoboca** :D


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[Xeneize12]

Con River en la buenas y en la malas :D
Asi me gusta! Un hombre que vive y muere por su cuadro.

[dogfried]

Independiente muchachos, Independiente.

[Futballer]

I think we have a bigger problem in the striker positions then in the mid....
We dont really have any consistant forwards. Crespo is good but latly I haven't seen him play... Hes usually on the bench at Chelsea and just comes on in the last 10-15 minutes. Chelsea is just wasting his career.