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ArtVandelayLFC
15 Sep 2007, 08:45 PM
SWP's got a lot of talent, but I think his biggest problem is his lack of vision and propensity to run with his head down. He tends to dribble into far too many cul-de-sacs, and he doesn't seem to have a great sense of when and where to run, be it with or without the ball. These weaknesses obviously don't mean as much when you're far and away the best player in the side, like SWP was at Manchester City, so I don't think it's fair to compare his best season at City to Robinho's at Real Madrid, where he was actually expected to defer to superior teammates.

Now I know many would accuse Robinho of having the same problems I've just described SWP as having, but I think he, like most Brazilian footballers, doesn't get the credit he deserves for his positional sense, specifically his ability to recognize and exploit open space. When I watch Brazil play, the thing that always jumps out at me is not necessarily how effortlessly they control the ball individually. What makes me really love watching Brazil is the way they move the ball and interchange positions with one-twos and make runs off the ball so efficiently. Contrary to the popular image of a Brazilian taking on the entire opposition to score, it's amazing how often they manage to basically pass the ball into the net without anybody ever really taking a guy on off the dribble; when they're at their best it's like watching the Arsenal Invincibles times ten.

To summarize, SWP probably has a better shot and a better cross than Robinho, but Robinho's definitely a better all-around dribbler and has a better ability to get open and connect cohesively with his teammates. I like SWP, but I think we might have seen the best of him; I just can't see him being as influential in a good to great side as Robinho has shown he can be.

Tony Dellbird
17 Sep 2007, 12:07 PM
Anyone who doubts Robinho's talent needs to watch the Brazil-US game. Case closed.

I don't think we'd even risk SWP in a game against the US. What's the point. Kieran Richardson should do the trick effectively enough.

What I hate about these threads is it's just purely someone vs someone. No mention of what context it's to be taken in. It could be who was better at U9s, in the school playground etc. Potentially Robinho is a lot better but on Club form SWP is proving better. That's why these threads always get out of hand and never turn into the logical discussions they should be.

Koby7STAR
17 Sep 2007, 04:04 PM
When i created this thread i should have mensioned to compare players at their full potential in the past 5 years or so and their current form, but saying it could be u9's is just silly

phil80
17 Sep 2007, 10:47 PM
No question, whos the better player- Robinho. whos in better form for their club team- swp.

Tony Dellbird
18 Sep 2007, 07:43 AM
When i created this thread i should have mensioned to compare players at their full potential in the past 5 years or so and their current form, but saying it could be u9's is just silly

Maybe it was a tad stupid ! :p

CountBayesy
21 Sep 2007, 08:04 AM
Robinho.