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TimB4Last
14 Aug 2007, 10:16 AM
Ives answers: Who should start vs. Sweden?
http://njmg.typepad.com/sbi/2007/08/who-should-star.html
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Landon Donovan, Taylor Twellman, Michael Parkhurst, Steve Ralston, Eddie Johnson, Jimmy Conrad, Jonathan Bornstein, Brad Guzan, Jozy Altidore and Justin Mapp.
I have a hunch Bradley will let those players stay home.
If that is the case, this is the starting XI you could see face Sweden:
----------------Ching-------Davies---------------------
Beasley----------------------------------------Dempsey
---------------Feilhaber-----Bradley--------------------
Pearce-------Onyewu-----Bocanegra-----Cherundolo
-----------------------Howard---------------------------
BENCH: Hahnemann, DeMerit, Spector, Gibbs, Convey, Clark, Adu, Nguyen, Wolff
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Onionsack
14 Aug 2007, 01:14 PM
7 Beasley, DaMarcus M 5-8 145 05-24-82 68/15 Ft. Wayne Ind. Glasgow Rangers (Scotland)
3 Bocanegra, Carlos D 6-0 170 05-25-79 49/6 Alto Loma, Calif. Fulham FC (England)
13 Bornstein, Jonathan D 5-9 145 11-07-84 10/1 Los Alamitos, Calif. Chivas USA (MLS)
4 Bradley, Michael M 6-2 175 07-31-87 10/1 Cedar Grove, N.J. SC Heerenveen (Holland)
6 Cherundolo, Steve D 5-6 145 02-19-79 39/1 San Diego, Calif. Hannover 96 (Germany)
15 Convey, Bobby M/D 5-8 150 05-27-83 43/1 Philadelphia, Pa. Reading FC (England)
9 Davies, Charlie F 5-10 160 06-25-86 2/0 Manchester, N.H. Hammarby IF (Sweden)
12 DeMerit, Jay D 6-0 185 12-04-79 5/0 Green Bay, Wisc. Watford FC (England)
8 Dempsey, Clint M 6-1 170 03-09-83 32/8 Nacogdoches, Texas Fulham FC (England)
10 Donovan, Landon F 5-8 148 03-04-82 94/34 Redlands, Calif. Los Angeles Galaxy (MLS)
5 Feilhaber, Benny M 5-9 150 01-19-85 10/2 Irvine, Calif. Derby County (England)
24 Hahnemann, Marcus GK 6-3 220 06-15-72 6/0 Seattle, Wash. Reading FC (England)
20 Hill, Kamani F 6-0 175 12-28-85 1/0 Berkeley, Calif. VfL Wolfsburg (Germany)
1 Howard, Tim GK 6-3 210 03-06-79 23/0 North Brunswick, N.J. Everton FC (England)
25 Mastroeni, Pablo M 5-10 170 08-26-76 56/0 Phoenix, Ariz. Colorado Rapids (MLS)
22 Onyewu, Oguchi D 6-4 210 05-13-82 24/2 Olney, Md. Standard de Liege (Belgium)
17 Spector, Jonathan D 6-0 180 03-01-86 9/0 Arlington Heights, Ill. West Ham United (England)
16 Wolff, Josh F 5-8 160 02-25-77 47/9 Stone Mountain, Ga. 1860 Munich (Germany)
21 Zizzo, Sal F 5-11 165 04-03-87 0/0 San Diego, Calif. Hannover 96
TimB4Last
14 Aug 2007, 01:35 PM
7 Beasley, DaMarcus M 5-8 145 05-24-82 68/15 Ft. Wayne Ind. Glasgow Rangers (Scotland)
3 Bocanegra, Carlos D 6-0 170 05-25-79 49/6 Alto Loma, Calif. Fulham FC (England)
13 Bornstein, Jonathan D 5-9 145 11-07-84 10/1 Los Alamitos, Calif. Chivas USA (MLS)
4 Bradley, Michael M 6-2 175 07-31-87 10/1 Cedar Grove, N.J. SC Heerenveen (Holland)
6 Cherundolo, Steve D 5-6 145 02-19-79 39/1 San Diego, Calif. Hannover 96 (Germany)
15 Convey, Bobby M/D 5-8 150 05-27-83 43/1 Philadelphia, Pa. Reading FC (England)
9 Davies, Charlie F 5-10 160 06-25-86 2/0 Manchester, N.H. Hammarby IF (Sweden)
12 DeMerit, Jay D 6-0 185 12-04-79 5/0 Green Bay, Wisc. Watford FC (England)
8 Dempsey, Clint M 6-1 170 03-09-83 32/8 Nacogdoches, Texas Fulham FC (England)
10 Donovan, Landon F 5-8 148 03-04-82 94/34 Redlands, Calif. Los Angeles Galaxy (MLS)
5 Feilhaber, Benny M 5-9 150 01-19-85 10/2 Irvine, Calif. Derby County (England)
24 Hahnemann, Marcus GK 6-3 220 06-15-72 6/0 Seattle, Wash. Reading FC (England)
20 Hill, Kamani F 6-0 175 12-28-85 1/0 Berkeley, Calif. VfL Wolfsburg (Germany)
1 Howard, Tim GK 6-3 210 03-06-79 23/0 North Brunswick, N.J. Everton FC (England)
25 Mastroeni, Pablo M 5-10 170 08-26-76 56/0 Phoenix, Ariz. Colorado Rapids (MLS)
22 Onyewu, Oguchi D 6-4 210 05-13-82 24/2 Olney, Md. Standard de Liege (Belgium)
17 Spector, Jonathan D 6-0 180 03-01-86 9/0 Arlington Heights, Ill. West Ham United (England)
16 Wolff, Josh F 5-8 160 02-25-77 47/9 Stone Mountain, Ga. 1860 Munich (Germany)
21 Zizzo, Sal F 5-11 165 04-03-87 0/0 San Diego, Calif. Hannover 96
Hey, you nailed all 21. How in the heck did you do that?
Not sure what to do with this thread. It seemed like a good idea hours ago when I submitted it, but it's been overtaken by the general US v. Sweden thread.
Live and learn ...
TimB4Last
14 Aug 2007, 01:39 PM
How did Ives do? What were his misses? At first glance:
Mastroeni (not Clark)
Bornstein (not Pearce)
Hill and Zizzo (not Adu and Nguyen)
Maximum Optimal
14 Aug 2007, 01:41 PM
Why Convey? His club coach says he isn't yet to the point where he can practice two consecutive days.
Why the lack of forwards? I know Houston, KC and NY have matches. But those teams all are comfortably heading toward the playoffs. At least one of Ching, Johnson or Altidore should have been called up.
With respect to Adu, I can only guess that he is in a close competition to break into his club's first team and may have expressed a preference to not miss any club practices so as to maximize his chances of breaking into the first team.
tab5g
14 Aug 2007, 01:43 PM
the XI that I would start:
--------------Howard
Spector---DeMerit--Onyewu--Bornstein
---------Bradley--Mastroeni
------------Convey
----Donovan--Dempsey--Beasley
although B.Bradley is likely to do something completely different, likely including Cher, Boca and Wolff to start the match.
Is it correct to assume that this friendly match will allow 6 subs?
My Starting XI
-------------Howard--------------
-------Onyewu---Bocanegra------
--Dolo-----------------Bornstein--
------Bradley-----Fielhaber-------
--Donovan--------------Beasley--
-----Dempsey------Wolff---------
As for subs, I would like to see Marcus get a half in the net, Davies get some time up top, Convey in the midfield, and Spector in the back.
bostonf4lyf
14 Aug 2007, 01:54 PM
My Starting XI
-------------Howard--------------
-------Onyewu---Bocanegra------
--Dolo-----------------Bornstein--
------Bradley-----Fielhaber-------
--Donovan--------------Beasley--
-----Dempsey------Wolff---------
As for subs, I would like to see Marcus get a half in the net, Davies get some time up top, Convey in the midfield, and Spector in the back.
i have a feeling this is what bob is going to do as well
Scumby
14 Aug 2007, 01:57 PM
the XI that I would start:
--------------Howard
Spector---DeMerit--Onyewu--Bornstein
---------Bradley--Mastroeni
------------Convey
----Donovan--Dempsey--Beasley
although B.Bradley is likely to do something completely different, likely including Cher, Boca and Wolff to start the match.
Is it correct to assume that this friendly match will allow 6 subs?
Swap Boca for Demrit (or Onyewu) and Benny F for Convey and I could get behind that.
-Scumby-
thedude83
14 Aug 2007, 01:57 PM
i have a feeling this is what bob is going to do as well
There is no way mastro will be on the bench. With only 3 mlsers going over you can rest assured they will all start. Benny or hopefully bradley will sit instead.
Galaxian
14 Aug 2007, 01:58 PM
My Starting XI
-------------Howard--------------
-------Onyewu---Bocanegra------
--Dolo-----------------Bornstein--
------Bradley-----Fielhaber-------
--Donovan--------------Beasley--
-----Dempsey------Wolff---------
As for subs, I would like to see Marcus get a half in the net, Davies get some time up top, Convey in the midfield, and Spector in the back.
This is about what i'm expecting. Mastro will either start, or sub in for Bradley or Benny also.
At this point, I would rather have Jay in the center, partnered with Boca, but I'm not quite sure where Bob stands right now on that situation.
bostonf4lyf
14 Aug 2007, 02:03 PM
This is about what i'm expecting. Mastro will either start, or sub in for Bradley or Benny also.
At this point, I would rather have Jay in the center, partnered with Boca, but I'm not quite sure where Bob stands right now on that situation.
no, i would rather have gooch playing in any friendly right now. we all know gooch has higher potential than jay, and lets face it, jay will most likely never play again in top flight football.
give onyewu all the minutes he can take
gosh1976
14 Aug 2007, 02:06 PM
Why Convey? His club coach says he isn't yet to the point where he can practice two consecutive days.
how long ago is that? He played 60 minutes in one of the pre-season friendlies and as of now he is listed in the squad for the chelsea game.
fscat
14 Aug 2007, 02:06 PM
For the most part I'm pleased with this squad. I would like to see Heath Pearce over Bornstein, just to give him some looks with the first team. Plus I would of liked Ricardo Clark over Pablo Mastroeni just because Rico will be there in 3 years, and Pablo probably won't be. But other than that, I'm pleased for the most part. I like it that we will get another look at guys like Charlie Davies and Kameni Hill, plus rewarding Josh Wolff for a good start.
Gmasterflash
14 Aug 2007, 02:07 PM
I'm looking for the return of the xmas-tree-esque 4-6-0 (or 4-5-1 if you consider Dempsey a forward):
---------Dempsey-----
--DMB-------------LD--
-----------Benny-------
----Pablo---------Jr.----
-JB---Boca---OO-----Stevie
-----------Howie-------
jd6885
14 Aug 2007, 02:08 PM
Bob called in a really speedy forward line, didn't he? I'm upset my man Holden didn't get a call-up.
Kevin8833
14 Aug 2007, 02:08 PM
My predicted 11:
---------------------Howard-------------------
Cherundalo----Onyewu---Bocanegra----Bornstein
-----------Bradley---Mastroeni---Feilhaber------
----------------Donovan-----Beasley-----------
----------------------Dempsey-----------------
TheLostUniversity
14 Aug 2007, 02:10 PM
7 Beasley, DaMarcus M 5-8 145 05-24-82 68/15 Ft. Wayne Ind. Glasgow Rangers (Scotland)
3 Bocanegra, Carlos D 6-0 170 05-25-79 49/6 Alto Loma, Calif. Fulham FC (England)
13 Bornstein, Jonathan D 5-9 145 11-07-84 10/1 Los Alamitos, Calif. Chivas USA (MLS)
4 Bradley, Michael M 6-2 175 07-31-87 10/1 Cedar Grove, N.J. SC Heerenveen (Holland)
6 Cherundolo, Steve D 5-6 145 02-19-79 39/1 San Diego, Calif. Hannover 96 (Germany)
15 Convey, Bobby M/D 5-8 150 05-27-83 43/1 Philadelphia, Pa. Reading FC (England)
9 Davies, Charlie F 5-10 160 06-25-86 2/0 Manchester, N.H. Hammarby IF (Sweden)
12 DeMerit, Jay D 6-0 185 12-04-79 5/0 Green Bay, Wisc. Watford FC (England)
8 Dempsey, Clint M 6-1 170 03-09-83 32/8 Nacogdoches, Texas Fulham FC (England)
10 Donovan, Landon F 5-8 148 03-04-82 94/34 Redlands, Calif. Los Angeles Galaxy (MLS)
5 Feilhaber, Benny M 5-9 150 01-19-85 10/2 Irvine, Calif. Derby County (England)
24 Hahnemann, Marcus GK 6-3 220 06-15-72 6/0 Seattle, Wash. Reading FC (England)
20 Hill, Kamani F 6-0 175 12-28-85 1/0 Berkeley, Calif. VfL Wolfsburg (Germany)
1 Howard, Tim GK 6-3 210 03-06-79 23/0 North Brunswick, N.J. Everton FC (England)
25 Mastroeni, Pablo M 5-10 170 08-26-76 56/0 Phoenix, Ariz. Colorado Rapids (MLS)
22 Onyewu, Oguchi D 6-4 210 05-13-82 24/2 Olney, Md. Standard de Liege (Belgium)
17 Spector, Jonathan D 6-0 180 03-01-86 9/0 Arlington Heights, Ill. West Ham United (England)
16 Wolff, Josh F 5-8 160 02-25-77 47/9 Stone Mountain, Ga. 1860 Munich (Germany)
21 Zizzo, Sal F 5-11 165 04-03-87 0/0 San Diego, Calif. Hannover 96
The one player omitted whom I can't understand why he was is Simek. He played well at the GC, and has started very well this season in the CCC [his manager singled him out as the only one to show real class in SWs defeat this past weekend].
As for aiming toward the future, what role does BB envision for Pablo and Josh??:confused: He doesn't know their play by now??
TheLostUniversity
14 Aug 2007, 02:12 PM
I'm looking for the return of the xmas-tree-esque 4-6-0 (or 4-5-1 if you consider Dempsey a forward):
---------Dempsey-----
--DMB-------------LD--
-----------Benny-------
----Pablo---------Jr.----
-JB---Boca---OO-----Stevie
-----------Howie-------
If 4-6-0, wouldn't that be closer to the mushroom formation ? ;)
dsp87260
14 Aug 2007, 02:15 PM
The one player omitted whom I can't understand why he was is Simek. He played well at the GC, and has started very well this season in the CCC [his manager singled him out as the only one to show real class in SWs defeat this past weekend].
As for aiming toward the future, what role does BB envision for Pablo and Josh??:confused: He doesn't know their play by now??
There always has to be a few elder statesmen/veterans to steady and help the younger guys...