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pc4th

27 Jul 2007, 06:15 PM

Rank the top 5 soccer leagues in Europe

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Thank you.

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Magi

27 Jul 2007, 07:38 PM

Top 5 in terms of what, exactly?

pablo85

28 Jul 2007, 08:04 AM

mofo4life

28 Jul 2007, 08:13 AM

1. England
2. Spain
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3. Italy
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4. Germany
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5. France

toonarmy44

28 Jul 2007, 10:04 AM

1. England

2. Spain

3. Italy
4. Germany
5. France

The Mighty Frog

28 Jul 2007, 10:55 AM

1 - Spain
2 - Germany
3 - Italy
4 - England
5 - France

pablo85

28 Jul 2007, 11:02 AM

1. England

2. Spain

3. Italy
4. Germany
5. France

people always say france, but why.
only one time EC1 winner ol.marseille and 1 time EC2
netherlands 6 times EC1/1 time EC2/3x uefacup/3x wc for clubteams
portugal 4 times EC1/1 time EC2/1x uefacup/2x wc for clubteams
because it are smaller countries with shittier stadiums??

and spain league is for sure better than the english, but italy I don't know, this year it was shit.

mshankb

28 Jul 2007, 11:21 AM

people always say france, but why.
only one time EC1 winner ol.marseille and 1 time EC2
netherlands 6 times EC1/1 time EC2/3x uefacup/3x wc for clubteams
portugal 4 times EC1/1 time EC2/1x uefacup/2x wc for clubteams
because it are smaller countries with shittier stadiums??

and spain league is for sure better than the english, but italy I don't know, this year it was shit.

Why is La Liga "for sure better" than the Premiership?

People say France because at the moment, the level is considerably higher than most other leagues.

1. England
2. Spain

big gap

3. Italy
4. France
5. Germany

pablo85

28 Jul 2007, 11:55 AM

Why is La Liga "for sure better" than the Premiership?

People say France because at the moment, the level is considerably higher than most other leagues.

1. England
2. Spain

big gap

3. Italy
4. France
5. Germany

the level is just higher, but england has the better media attention.
and who can play in france except for lyon.
maybe marseille a little bit??

benito camelpene

28 Jul 2007, 12:37 PM

1. Spain
2. England
3. Italy
4. Germany
5. France

Gutan

28 Jul 2007, 06:21 PM

people always say france, but why.
only one time EC1 winner ol.marseille and 1 time EC2
netherlands 6 times EC1/1 time EC2/3x uefacup/3x wc for clubteams
portugal 4 times EC1/1 time EC2/1x uefacup/2x wc for clubteams
because it are smaller countries with shittier stadiums??

Why, well I can only answer for my self. But I rank PSG, Lorient, Nice etc. as better teams than Excelsior, Willem II, Heracles or Naval 1º Maio, Académica Coimbra, Vitória Setúbal. But ofcourse if you only rank top teams even the Scottish league would be pretty strong..

pablo85

28 Jul 2007, 06:40 PM

Why, well I can only answer for my self. But I rank PSG, Lorient, Nice etc. as better teams than Excelsior, Willem II, Heracles or Naval 1º Maio, Académica Coimbra, Vitória Setúbal. But ofcourse if you only rank top teams even the Scottish league would be pretty strong..

how do you know that, they never play eachother.
psg was good in 94-96 but willem 2 played CL also.

somnambulist

28 Jul 2007, 08:56 PM

1. England (EPL)
2. Spain (La Liga)
3. Italy (Serie A)
4. Germany (Bundesliga)
5. Scotland (SPL)
6. France (Ligue 1)
7. Holland (Eredivisie)
8. Portugal (Portuguese Liga)
9. Turkey (TSL)
10. Russia (RPL)

I know that's 10, but whatevs.

Leedsunited

28 Jul 2007, 10:12 PM

1. England
2. Spain
3. Italy
4. Germany
5. France

I'd say England shades it because of the depth of the league structure, compared to say, Spains Second Division, which has reserve teams in it. Those would free-fall through Englands Football League, judging by the Castilla games I saw, possibly fall out of League Two. That is pretty much why when Rafa Benitez and Mourinho suggested EPL reserves in the football leagues they were simply laughed at.
Italy may be higher but Italian football is the laughing stock of Europe apart from AC and Inter. Man Utd v Roma and all the match-fixing and the friendly nature of the fans have ruined it.
Germany and France are pretty close too. Outside Lyon, Marseille and perhaps the European qualifiers from France, it is a feeder league.

Gutan

28 Jul 2007, 10:16 PM

how do you know that, they never play eachother.
psg was good in 94-96 but willem 2 played CL also.

I diddent say I know, I just rank the teams that lower on the table in France higher than teams lower on the table in Portugal and Netherland.

PSG was a bottom team in France last year but they did anyway pretty well in the uEFA-cup. Reaching 1/8 finals. Same could be said about Nancy (13th last year) went easy trough Group play. In netherland there is only 3-4 that hold a very good europeen level imo. Twente went out against Estonian Lavedia Tallin in the qualify rounds, Herenveen finished last in their UEFA Cup group. These team ended 4 and 5th in the Dutch league. Much same in Portugese 3-4 teams that may do well in europen cups. Teams like Vitória Setúbal (14 last year) Nacional Madeira (8. last year) went out 1.round before the group play.

If you lock on the domnestic tables there is hugh gap between the top teams and the next best teams in Netherland and Portugal. While in France the only hugh gap is between Lyon and the rest, otherwise every team can almost beat eachother.

yes.. I know this was not very well written.. But anyway thats mainly why I think the Franch league overall is a bit better than the Dutch and Potugese league. But if you only locking at the top teams the quality difference is very little. But you are ofcourse free to feel otherwise.

Sagy

28 Jul 2007, 10:54 PM

La Liga
EPL
(Gap)
Serie A
...
(huge gap)
...
Bundesliga
Ligue 1
La Liga and the EPL are very close. La Liga is overall more balanced than the EPL, this year the EPL was better at the top. It would be reasonable to switch the two, but right now I still have La Liga on top (the great ending of last season probably has something to do with it).

After the top 3, the Bundesliga leads the rest of the pack; Ligue 1 just edges the Portuguese Liga and the Eredivisie for 5th place.

Shio

29 Jul 2007, 02:38 AM

1.Spain
2.England
3.Italy
4.France
5.Germany

La Liga definately has more depth than any other league, followed by England and Italy. France/Germany was a toughie, but I placed France higher because their league has more depth in the lower half than Bundesliga.

pablo85

29 Jul 2007, 10:39 AM

I diddent say I know, I just rank the teams that lower on the table in France higher than teams lower on the table in Portugal and Netherland.

PSG was a bottom team in France last year but they did anyway pretty well in the uEFA-cup. Reaching 1/8 finals. Same could be said about Nancy (13th last year) went easy trough Group play. In netherland there is only 3-4 that hold a very good europeen level imo. Twente went out against Estonian Lavedia Tallin in the qualify rounds, Herenveen finished last in their UEFA Cup group. These team ended 4 and 5th in the Dutch league. Much same in Portugese 3-4 teams that may do well in europen cups. Teams like Vitória Setúbal (14 last year) Nacional Madeira (8. last year) went out 1.round before the group play.

If you lock on the domnestic tables there is hugh gap between the top teams and the next best teams in Netherland and Portugal. While in France the only hugh gap is between Lyon and the rest, otherwise every team can almost beat eachother.

yes.. I know this was not very well written.. But anyway thats mainly why I think the Franch league overall is a bit better than the Dutch and Potugese league. But if you only locking at the top teams the quality difference is very little. But you are ofcourse free to feel otherwise.

okay I respect your view, I don't agree, but if we all think the same the world would be boring.

And I saw somebody place Scotland league relatively high, than I think are you crazy???

The Mighty Frog

29 Jul 2007, 01:43 PM

And I saw somebody place Scotland league relatively high, than I think are you crazy???

He's just...Borat.

Gerrit

29 Jul 2007, 02:14 PM

In terms of quality I guess Spain and Italy will battle for the first spot with England just below it.

Personally I like France best because it is a very unpredictable league. Before Lyon started its reign it was 10 seasons without a team that could renew its chamionship crown. Sometimes a team won the league and struggled against relegation the next season (eg Nantes and Monaco). Now Lyon is dominant but everything below that top spot is still a very open battle with often teams that surprise. This makes France my favourite league in Europe, although there is a difference between best leagues and personal preferences in leagues. I mean, because of my love for Rosenborg I rate the Norwegian league amongst the most interesting ones in Europe but I will not claim it is one of the best ones.

English league is top when it comes to quality but I personally find the Premiership totally uninteresting. Because the same 4 teams qualify for the CL every season and get richer and richer, the top-4 is very predictable apart from the order of those 4 teams. Also, the EPL is the sort of league without a single stadium that has a bit of authenticity, with exceptions being Everton and maybe Villa Park. I reckon that England is one of the best leagues in terms of quality, but personally I don't find that league anything interesting so I very rarely watch games from the EPL. English football for me begins to get interesting below the premiership but the EPL is a boring league IMO, despite the quality of play.