Reason why we dont have a foriegn coach

[crzdcolombian]

wow as much as I want Bielsa unless he can garantee us a WC spot then Its pretty extreme for that much money not many teams will be able to pay that other than US/Mex or someone in europe

Bielsa pidió esta vida y la otra
Jul 25 de 2007

La exigencia de 2 millones de dólares anuales impediría la contratación del argentino Marcelo Bielsa como nuevo técnico del seleccionado nacional chileno.

La designación del técnico en reemplazo del renunciado Nelson Acosta debe quedar resuelta la semana entrante de cumplirse los plazos que se dio el presidente de la Asociación Nacional de Fútbol Profesional, ANFP, Harold Mayne-Nicholls.

El dirigente contó que son cinco los postulantes al cargo, entre ellos Bielsa y el técnico argentino de Colo Colo, Claudio Borghi.

La exigencia de dos millones de dólares hecha por Bielsa implica también a su cuerpo técnico.

El matutino La Tercera señala que un dirigente de la ANFP expresó que la demanda de Bielsa es "algo que está absolutamente fuera del alcance" del presupuesto de la entidad futbolística.

El presupuesto anual para el cuerpo técnico del seleccionado sería de unos 600.000 dólares anuales.

Acosta, quien renunció después de Copa América por las críticas al bajo desempeño del equipo, tenía un salario de unos 24.000 dólares mensuales.

[efernandez9]

peru acaba de cambiar DT
el chemo del solar esta alrededor de los 36 mensuales, escuche ayer en canal Sur...

Pinto no creo que llege a 30k

es muy dificil, con esos salarios atraer un foraneo a la problematica de colombia.

en la lista, si pinto se cae ante brazil, creo que esta Quintabani, en esos dias ya el atl. Nacional temino su participacion en copa Nissan....(mark my words)

[crzdcolombian]

no more colombian league coachs... we need a real foriegn one...

Pinto better colombian league coach than the ath nacioanl one and Bernal .... seriously everyone is bitching but the truth is there isnt any one else for the money...

I mean we could use the Pachuca coach?? he loves colombians and is a foriegn coach haha prob be around 50-60,000

I mean I would love Lippi, Capello, Bielsa, Pekerman but the truth is they wont come for any less than 120,000 a month and we wont give that to them and they prob wouldnt want to coach colombia

I say we give them 75,000 a month and if they qualify us we give them an extra million :) if not they go to hell and are fired

[yj777]

en la lista, si pinto se cae ante brazil

queres apostar que despues de que perdamos con Brasil y nos vaya mal con Bolivia, Pinto todavia estara de DT...

A ese no lo echan si no hasta que estemos eliminados.. lo mismo que paso con MatuRRana y Rueda en la ultima eliminatoria

[Alonso#13]

Esto demuestra el verdadero problema con la Seleccion.
1)Una federacion mas corrupta ke la de los Italianos
2)Un entrenador ke se cree el pipi del nino Jesus
3)Jugadores viejos ke ya no le muestran amor a la camisa

[crzdcolombian]

I hate the fed for making it bogota alot of people are complaing about the altitude Pibe and some of the players

I think its stupid to waste a million dollars on breathing machines so our players can get use to the atitude of Bogota.... why play their if our top players wont be able to !!!! Just because its bogota and the capital??? IF u dont like the fans in barranquilla maybe the team shouldnt sell out like they do. At least in Barranquilla u didnt have to buy stupid machines so our players could have an advantage which I think is super cheap. I think it should be in cali or med... so peoples stop bitching

another thing for those stupid breathing machines we are going to buy why not use that money and get Bielsa??? The former S. Korea, Austrilla and current Russia coach contract is for 2.4 million (2 years) and runs out in 2008 why NOT GET HIM !!!

We want a world class team and a great coach but we want to pay them Colombian league coach wages and this is why we suck

[yj777]

http://www.lanacion.com.ar/deportiva/nota.asp?nota_id=928776

"El diario recuerda que Bielsa ya rechazó en el 2006 una oferta por 1,4 millones de dólares para dirigir a la selección de Colombia."

[crzdcolombian]

http://www.lanacion.com.ar/deportiva/nota.asp?nota_id=928776

"El diario recuerda que Bielsa ya rechazó en el 2006 una oferta por 1,4 millones de dólares para dirigir a la selección de Colombia."

he said he would coach us and was intersted he just wanted more money... he wants 2 million to coach chile... think we prob have to give him the same...

WC Coach = $2 million + for 2 years

that is what I though we were going to do have Pinto for 1 year see how it works have him for dirt cheap 30,000 a month and then if he doesnt work get a foriegn high priced coach.... which we should do but our fed rather waste the money on breathing machines so we can play in bogota:mad:

[Narc83]

he said he would coach us and was intersted he just wanted more money... he wants 2 million to coach chile... think we prob have to give him the same...

WC Coach = $2 million + for 2 years

that is what I though we were going to do have Pinto for 1 year see how it works have him for dirt cheap 30,000 a month and then if he doesnt work get a foriegn high priced coach.... which we should do but our fed rather waste the money on breathing machines so we can play in bogota:mad:

I don't think that a foreign coach is really necessary, the coach just has to be willing to experiment with the players until he finds an effective lineup. I watched the Copa and Colombia attacked but lacked a defensive unity/order. If the coach would tell his players that they cannot sacrifice their defensive discipline just because their down/attacking things may have come out differently. The poor performance could also be due to you guys missing mosqueda, he is your best defender...what happened to him, i didn't see him playing?

[lfsr1544]

I don't think that a foreign coach is really necessary, the coach just has to be willing to experiment with the players until he finds an effective lineup. I watched the Copa and Colombia attacked but lacked a defensive unity/order. If the coach would tell his players that they cannot sacrifice their defensive discipline just because their down/attacking things may have come out differently. The poor performance could also be due to you guys missing mosqueda, he is your best defender...what happened to him, i didn't see him playing?

Mosquera was injured just prior to Copa.

No brainer:

YOUTH = HEART = NT MATERIAL

OUR BEST PERFORMING NT MATERIAL:

GK OSPINA 19

DEF DE LA CRUZ 22
DEF C. ZAPATA 22
DEF L PEREA 26
DEF A. MOSQUERA 26
DEF RIVAS 24
DEF ZUNIGA 22


MF CASTRILLON 24
MF FERREIRA 27
MF CHITIVA 26
MF JC TOJA 22
MF GUARIN 21
MF PINO 20
MF MCNELLY 23

FW F MONTERO 19
FW JPA 32

16 BEST 'IN FORM' PLAYERS AT THE MOMENT

PENDING BETTER RESULTS...
W RENTERIA 22
L YANEZ 26
ARZUAGA 26
FALCAO 23
RODALLEGA 23
ABEL 23
JC ESCOBAR 26

[minus]

Mosquera was injured just prior to Copa.

No brainer:

YOUTH = HEART = NT MATERIAL

OUR BEST PERFORMING NT MATERIAL:

GK OSPINA 19

DEF DE LA CRUZ 22
DEF C. ZAPATA 22
DEF L PEREA 26
DEF A. MOSQUERA 26
DEF RIVAS 24
DEF ZUNIGA 22


MF CASTRILLON 24
MF FERREIRA 27
MF CHITIVA 26
MF JC TOJA 22
MF GUARIN 21
MF PINO 20
MF MCNELLY 23

FW F MONTERO 19
FW JPA 32

16 BEST 'IN FORM' PLAYERS AT THE MOMENT

PENDING BETTER RESULTS...
W RENTERIA 22
L YANEZ 26
ARZUAGA 26
FALCAO 23
RODALLEGA 23
ABEL 23
JC ESCOBAR 26

Aqui a Octubre ouede pasar mucho ..... Vamos a ver que pasa....

[Alonso#13]

Mosquera was injured just prior to Copa.

No brainer:

YOUTH = HEART = NT MATERIAL

OUR BEST PERFORMING NT MATERIAL:

GK OSPINA 19

DEF DE LA CRUZ 22
DEF C. ZAPATA 22
DEF L PEREA 26
DEF A. MOSQUERA 26
DEF RIVAS 24
DEF ZUNIGA 22


MF CASTRILLON 24
MF FERREIRA 27
MF CHITIVA 26
MF JC TOJA 22
MF GUARIN 21
MF PINO 20
MF MCNELLY 23

FW F MONTERO 19
FW JPA 32

16 BEST 'IN FORM' PLAYERS AT THE MOMENT

PENDING BETTER RESULTS...
W RENTERIA 22
L YANEZ 26
ARZUAGA 26
FALCAO 23
RODALLEGA 23
ABEL 23
JC ESCOBAR 26

I like the line up but i think you confused De La Cuesta for the ecuadorian De La Cruz?:o

[Narc83]

I like the line up but i think you confused De La Cuesta for the ecuadorian De La Cruz?:o

I think everyone would like to have a lineup of 16 players:p.

[edmundo]

Mosquera was injured just prior to Copa.

No brainer:

YOUTH = HEART = NT MATERIAL

OUR BEST PERFORMING NT MATERIAL:

GK OSPINA 19

DEF DE LA CRUZ 22
DEF C. ZAPATA 22
DEF L PEREA 26
DEF A. MOSQUERA 26
DEF RIVAS 24
DEF ZUNIGA 22


MF CASTRILLON 24
MF FERREIRA 27
MF CHITIVA 26
MF JC TOJA 22
MF GUARIN 21
MF PINO 20
MF MCNELLY 23

FW F MONTERO 19
FW JPA 32

16 BEST 'IN FORM' PLAYERS AT THE MOMENT

PENDING BETTER RESULTS...
W RENTERIA 22
L YANEZ 26
ARZUAGA 26
FALCAO 23
RODALLEGA 23
ABEL 23
JC ESCOBAR 26

JC ESCOBAR is definitely in form right now only thing is that he hopefully doesnt go to russia

[MrPaisa]

he doesn't want to...him and quintero are trying to come back to tolima becasue they don't like being in russia, also the russian team is seriously in debt and might not be able to pay tolima, therefore making them comeback..that would be the best and then it would be good to see them go to brasil and then maybe europe

[crzdcolombian]

I really like JC Escobar he is really good and put him in with Edwin Valencia at midfield :)

and Pino and Guarin on the wings :) to bad we can only have 4-5 middies at a time because I love to also have Mcnelly, Ferriera ,Toja, Chitiva,Castrillon,Soto in there :)

Maybe we can have something like this

Ospina
Zuniga-Mosquera-Zapata-Bustos
Soto/Chitiva-Castrillon-Valencia-Guarin
Pino-Angel

as for sub (or friendly squads)
Hector Landurazzi(think thats how u spell his name Once Keeper)
De la Cuesta-Luis Perea-Josmier Mosquara(Nelson Rivas)-Anchico
Toja-Mcnelly-JC Escobar-Ferriera
Freddy Montero-Arzuaga

Also like Mao Molina, Robinson Zapata, Yanez and alot others but we have to wait to see how they do with their new teams and at what form they are on at them moment

[edmundo]

everybody is foretting about carlos sanchez

[Pereira_17]

Mosquera was injured just prior to Copa.

No brainer:

YOUTH = HEART = NT MATERIAL

OUR BEST PERFORMING NT MATERIAL:

GK OSPINA 19

DEF DE LA CUESTA 22
DEF C. ZAPATA 22
DEF L PEREA 26
DEF A. MOSQUERA 26
DEF RIVAS 24
DEF ZUNIGA 22


MF CASTRILLON 24
MF FERREIRA 27
MF CHITIVA 26
MF JC TOJA 22
MF GUARIN 21
MF PINO 20
MF MCNELLY 23

FW F MONTERO 19
FW JPA 32

16 BEST 'IN FORM' PLAYERS AT THE MOMENT

PENDING BETTER RESULTS...
W RENTERIA 22
L YANEZ 26
ARZUAGA 26
FALCAO 23
RODALLEGA 23
ABEL 23
JC ESCOBAR 26
I like the pool you put together with the exception of Ospina being the starter, but really can't argue if he is made the starter at this point, it's a toss up. He really needs to be given every opportunity to prove himself in friendlies, I'll say that.

Obviously players could pop up that shine at the moment such as Patino, Rey, maybe Bolano. But overall this group is the group that should be looked to to lead us to S. Africa.

[crzdcolombian]

everybody is foretting about carlos sanchez

no one is forgetting him I think he is being over hyped look he played 1 game with our NT agaisnt panama and did well tho panama had basically nothing to offer us it was if like we played our sub 17 ... we might have had a better challege now he plays in france but no one knows if he will be a starter its going to take him time to adapt.. the 1st 4 games of qualifiers he is useless for colombia as we should prefer him as a starter in france over anything else.

Castrillion is the best player for colombia every time he puts on the NT shirt the same with Aguilar and no one ever brings them up

We have alot of promising players and ones recently exported... lets wait a bit to bring the ones who havent won their starting spots yet... and lets not forget our league is good and we should use home based players as well

[ryu79]

Castrillion is the best player for colombia every time he puts on the NT shirt the same with Aguilar and no one ever brings them up


Are you serious? There is a whole thread about Aguilar here.