View Full Version : Zidane or Riquelme?
User Name
07 Sep 2007, 01:00 PM
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OMFG! Enzooooooooooooo! He's better than Zizou and the greatest player ever seen! Legend. Greatest human ever! Enzo FTW! :rolleyes:
Note: I like Enzo.
Zidane's volley came down from a greater height, at a greater speed. Anyone who has played football at any level really will tell you how hard that kind of volley is to pull off. The way Zidane lined it up and completely nailed it only a few greats can do. Certainly better than the few dribbles and shots of Riquelme that other guy posted, what a pathetic comparison, Zidane had those kind of goals throughout his career.
User Name
07 Sep 2007, 01:03 PM
He led Villareal to the semifinals of the CL, that is def more amazing than what Zidane did in the WC 98.
Yes, because that is all Zidane is famous for in his career. And of course getting to the semi's of the CL is better than winning the world cup.
bosterosoy
07 Sep 2007, 01:05 PM
Zidane's volley came down from a greater height, at a greater speed. Anyone who has played football at any level really will tell you how hard that kind of volley is to pull off. The way Zidane lined it up and completely nailed it only a few greats can do. Certainly better than the few dribbles and shots of Riquelme that other guy posted, what a pathetic comparison, Zidane had those kind of goals throughout his career.
are you serious??
IMO this goal:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=L6T5SpvubHk
is better than the zidane one you are talking about
User Name
07 Sep 2007, 01:06 PM
First of all I don't dispute any of the qualities of Zidane but if he was that great at lifting his teams, why weren't the Galacticos more succesful than they were? Surely Zizou with Figo, Carlos, Raul.....would have won every trophy in the world but yet they managed what one cup in that run? I certainly thought they'd win more.
They won the Champions League in 2002 and La Liga in 2003. In 2003 Perez sold Makelele and replaced him with Beckham .. the attack still did its job and scored goals but then they leaked alot of goals. And from 2004 onwards Zidane was going downhill with his age. Although class is permenant as shown in WC 06.
lanman
07 Sep 2007, 01:07 PM
Yes, because that is all Zidane is famous for in his career. And of course getting to the semi's of the CL is better than winning the world cup.
Outside of the final, what did Zidane contribute to the 98 World Cup?
Volrath
07 Sep 2007, 01:08 PM
Yes, because that is all Zidane is famous for in his career. And of course getting to the semi's of the CL is better than winning the world cup.
Getting to the semis of the Champions League with a bunch of, with all due respect, mediocre players is a lot better then Zidane winning the world cup with, what was concevied at that time, the most complete French squad to have ever existed.
bosterosoy
07 Sep 2007, 01:08 PM
Yes, because that is all Zidane is famous for in his career. And of course getting to the semi's of the CL is better than winning the world cup.
i never said it was better as I would much rather win a WC, but as a terms of which performance was better, it was definetly more impress to lead a Spanish team such as Villareal to the CL as it was to lead France to a WC win when you are playing alongside Trezuguet, Henry, Thruman, Barthez, Blanc, Djorkaeff, Deschamps, Desailly and Petit
User Name
07 Sep 2007, 01:10 PM
are you serious??
IMO this goal:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=L6T5SpvubHk
is better than the zidane one you are talking about
Oh come off it, I have seen semi pro players pull that off by driving it into the top corner, a good goal gut nothing 'that' out of the ordinary. It does not compare to the technique and precision of the Zidane volley.
bosterosoy
07 Sep 2007, 01:11 PM
Outside of the final, what did Zidane contribute to the 98 World Cup?
no he didn't. He wasn't even the best player on the French team that year. That award went to Lillian Thuram who took home the Bronze Ball (Ronaldo got gold and Suker got silver)
TKORL
07 Sep 2007, 01:12 PM
So you think that Boca Juniors or Sao Paolo aren't in the top 12 clubs in the world?
Not at all.
bosterosoy
07 Sep 2007, 01:13 PM
Oh come off it, I have seen semi pro players pull that off by driving it into the top corner, a good goal gut nothing 'that' out of the ordinary. It does not compare to the technique and precision of the Zidane volley.
that is the dumbest arguement.
I've also seen semi-pro's score a volley.
Next your going to say that Maradona's goal against England wasn't the best because you saw a 14 year old do it in a JV soccer game :rolleyes:
bosterosoy
07 Sep 2007, 01:13 PM
Not at all.
wow, you should extend your footie knowledge outside of those 3 countries ;)
User Name
07 Sep 2007, 01:14 PM
i never said it was better as I would much rather win a WC, but as a terms of which performance was better, it was definetly more impress to lead a Spanish team such as Villareal to the CL as it was to lead France to a WC win when you are playing alongside Trezuguet, Henry, Thruman, Barthez, Blanc, Djorkaeff, Deschamps, Desailly and Petit
Zidane also led Bordeaux to the UEFA cup final in 1996. Even if for the rest of his career he played with great players in great teams he always stood out. Where as Riquelme will always be the big fish in a little pond.
lanman
07 Sep 2007, 01:16 PM
no he didn't. He wasn't even the best player on the French team that year. That award went to Lillian Thuram who took home the Bronze Ball (Ronaldo got gold and Suker got silver)
Exactly. Without Zidane, France would still, in all likelihood, have won that tournament. He did, however, have an excellent tournament at Euro 2000.
bosterosoy
07 Sep 2007, 01:16 PM
here's another goal that was better than that volley
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QqsEWJApwM
User Name
07 Sep 2007, 01:17 PM
that is the dumbest arguement.
I've also seen semi-pro's score a volley.
Next your going to say that Maradona's goal against England wasn't the best because you saw a 14 year old do it in a JV soccer game :rolleyes:
It does not take a master to drive the ball into the top corner like Riquelme did. However it does take a master to dribble through a top class international team in a World Cup semi. Like it takes a master to pull off the Zidane volley to win the CL.
User Name
07 Sep 2007, 01:19 PM
here's another goal that was better than that volley
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QqsEWJApwM
Gerrard and Scholes score those for fun.
bosterosoy
07 Sep 2007, 01:21 PM
It does not take a master to drive the ball into the top corner like Riquelme did. However it does take a master to dribble through a top class international team in a World Cup semi. Like it takes a master to pull off the Zidane volley to win the CL.
the Riquelme goal was also in a final ;););)
User Name
07 Sep 2007, 01:26 PM
It still does not touch Zidane's volley. That was a thing of beauty.
brassmonkey
07 Sep 2007, 01:27 PM
no, the misinformed one is you who thinks that just because the team plays in Europe that they are naturally better than a south american club.
Boca Juniors 2000 was one of the best teams that I've seen play in my life time. The fact that you only watch European footie and decide to believe the biased that Europeans have toward their clubs and not look into it yourself. Have you even seen any Boca Juniros game? Why don't you go watch the 2000 game between Real Madrid and Boca Juniors and then come back and debate about it, instead of just talking without knowing ;)
If nobody good is playing in South America (as you somehow seem to believe) then why is it that European clubs continue to come and buy our players?
No, I don't think European teams are naturally better than South American clubs. Sheffield Wednesday or ADO Den Haag aren't better than Boca Juniors.
I don't only watch European football, I also watch Mexican and Brazilian football, and of course I've seen Boca Juniors play, live actually. I never said no one in South America is any good. The fact that Riquelme played in South America proves that there are great players there. But to claim that Boca are on the level of the Champion's League winning Real Madrid side is nuts. It's pure stupidity.