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sidis
19 Jul 2007, 06:05 PM
current attendance average in brazilian league

1st division:

av attendance team (number of home games)
26.541 Sport/PE (6)
23.683 Cruzeiro/MG (6)
20.533 Corinthians/SP (6)
17.817 Fluminense/RJ (5)
17.649 Botafogo/RJ (5)
17.173 Grêmio/RS (5)
16.870 Palmeiras/SP (5)
14.758 Goiás/GO (5)
14.401 São Paulo/SP (6)
13.439 América/RN (6)
12.757 Internacional/RS (6)
12.697 Náutico/PE (6)
12.388 Atlético/MG (6)
11.827 Flamengo/RJ (3)
10.238 Vasco/RJ (5)
9.385 Figueirense/SC (6)
7.546 Atlético/PR (5)
7.016 Santos/SP (6)
6.118 Paraná/PR (6)
3.492 Juventude/RS (6)

2nd division

22.268 Santa Cruz/PE (5)
16.268 Vitória/BA (7)
14.275 Fortaleza/CE (6)
12.294 Ceará/CE (6)
10.187 Barueri/SP (6)
9.967 Coritiba/PR (5)
8.838 Remo/PA (4)
7.333 CRB/AL (7)
5.741 Criciúma/SC (6)
2.768 Brasiliense/DF (6)
2.513 Marília/SP (6)
2.472 Ponte Preta/SP (6)
2.117 Avaí/SC (6)
1.652 Portuguesa/SP (7)
1.438 Paulista/SP (5)
1.135 Gama/DF (6)
1.106 Santo André/SP (6)
1.053 São Caetano/SP (6)
1.043 Ipatinga/MG (6)
399 Ituano/SP (7)

JasonTO
21 Jul 2007, 12:22 AM
I'm really surprised by some of these figures.

Flamengo - 11,000
Vasco - 10,000
Santos - 7,000

Are these not big clubs?

Mengão86
21 Jul 2007, 12:49 AM
Flamengo hasn't be able to play in Maracana due to the Pan-American games, so their attendance has been hurt from that.

sidis
21 Jul 2007, 06:47 AM
and santos & vasco prefer to play in a 18k stadium.

some games was playerd at wednesday 4pm.

ninner
22 Jul 2007, 11:15 PM
this is one of the most exciting leagues.....who would have thought Juventude would beat International!! OMG...and that Botafogo -Sport matchup was a classic.....its soo close baby!!!!

sidis
22 Jul 2007, 11:22 PM
Sport fill the stadium today again, fluminense too playing in other state because the panamerican games held in rio.

rkleemann
12 Aug 2007, 01:24 AM
I'm really surprised by some of these figures.

Flamengo - 11,000
Vasco - 10,000
Santos - 7,000

Are these not big clubs?

excitement is high but money is low. Even with extremely low ticket prices (for american standards) many people cannot make it, specially if they're trying to take wife and kids to a game.

For many years attendance, as an overall average, has not been very high for many of Brasil's clubs.

But it's not to say stadiums aren't getting filled, it's just that it's not very common. If a club is in a good phase, specially when not expected, then certaily you'll see big crowds. Botafogo for example has had a few good games with big crowds, 45,000 against fluminense opening up the engenhao new stadium, and 47,000 this past week against sao paulo. These two have been the largest crowds so far for serie A this year.

Earlier in the year, when Romario was attempting his 1000th goal, a game between botafogo x vasco drew around 60-70,000

today, flamengo drew 34,000 in its win against nautico

sidis
14 Aug 2007, 06:37 PM
Updated:

Série A

26.071 Sport/PE (9)
21.682 Cruzeiro/MG (10)
20.232 Botafogo/RJ (7)
18.300 Corinthians/SP (9)
17.780 Grêmio/RS (9)
15.212 Palmeiras/SP (9)
14.802 Flamengo/RJ (5)
14.595 Fluminense/RJ (8)
13.979 Internacional/RS (9)
13.525 Atlético/MG (8)
12.623 América/RN (8)
12.603 São Paulo/SP (8)
12.448 Náutico/PE (9)
11.486 Vasco/RJ (9)
10.892 Goiás/GO (9)
9.047 Paraná/PR (9)
8.630 Figueirense/SC (8)
6.908 Atlético/PR (8)
6.784 Santos/SP (10)
4.449 Juventude/RS (10)

Série B

24.512 Santa Cruz/PE (7)
14.863 Vitória/BA (9)
12.632 Fortaleza/CE (9)
11.740 Ceará/CE (7)
10.729 Barueri/SP (8)
9.318 Coritiba/PR (8)
8.212 Remo/PA (5)
6.988 CRB/AL (8)
6.020 Criciúma/SC (9)
3.082 Brasiliense/DF (9)
2.652 Marília/SP (8)
2.519 Ponte Preta/SP (8)
2.188 Avaí/SC (7)
1.543 Portuguesa/SP (8)
1.393 Paulista/SP (7)
1.116 Santo André/SP (8)
1.084 Gama/DF (7)
1.010 Ipatinga/MG (8)
888 São Caetano/SP (8)
391 Ituano/SP (8)

sidis
03 Sep 2007, 02:32 AM
Serie A

25.397 Sport/PE (12)
22.248 Botafogo/RJ (10)
21.279 Flamengo/RJ (8)
21.261 Cruzeiro/MG (11)
18.436 Corinthians/SP (11)
18.084 Grêmio/RS (10)
17.737 São Paulo/SP (10)
16.783 Fluminense/RJ (11)
16.053 Palmeiras/SP (11)
15.479 Internacional/RS (12)
13.791 Atlético/MG (11)
12.814 Goiás/GO (10)
12.547 Náutico/PE (10)
12.363 Vasco/RJ (11)
10.955 América/RN (10)
8.477 Figueirense/SC (11)
8.295 Paraná/PR (12)
6.931 Atlético/PR (10)
6.756 Santos/SP (12)
4.814 Juventude/RS (12)

Serie B

26.407 Santa Cruz/PE (10)
14.386 Vitória/BA (11)
12.195 Fortaleza/CE (11)
12.009 Ceará/CE (10)
9.962 Barueri/SP (10)
9.631 Coritiba/PR (10)
8.336 Remo/PA (8)
7.206 CRB/AL (11)
6.012 Criciúma/SC (11)
3.389 Marília/SP (11)
3.197 Brasiliense/DF (11)
2.706 Ponte Preta/SP (10)
2.280 Avaí/SC (10)
1.893 Portuguesa/SP (11)
1.791 Paulista/SP (10)
1.174 Santo André/SP (10)
1.060 Gama/DF (8)
1.002 Ipatinga/MG (10)
840 São Caetano/SP (11)
347 Ituano/SP (11)

Mengão86
06 Sep 2007, 07:36 AM
Botafogo was lucky that they had the home field rights during Fla x Bota. That is the only reason they are up there. Where did you get these numbers, sidis? I saw a list last week and Flamengo was in front of Botafogo and was only a thousand away from Sport.

sidis
06 Sep 2007, 08:11 AM
Série A

25.397 Sport/PE (12)
24.643 Flamengo/RJ (9)
22.248 Botafogo/RJ (10)
22.078 Cruzeiro/MG (12)
19.442 São Paulo/SP (11)
18.791 Fluminense/RJ (12)
18.759 Grêmio/RS (11)
17.770 Corinthians/SP (12)
16.053 Palmeiras/SP (11)
15.479 Internacional/RS (12)
13.791 Atlético/MG (11)
12.489 Goiás/GO (11)
12.363 Vasco/RJ (11)
12.215 Náutico/PE (11)
10.955 América/RN (10)
8.477 Figueirense/SC (11)
8.295 Paraná/PR (12)
7.507 Atlético/PR (11)
6.756 Santos/SP (12)
4.814 Juventude/RS (12)

Série B

26.407 Santa Cruz/PE (10)
15.285 Vitória/BA (12)
12.009 Ceará/CE (10)
11.822 Fortaleza/CE (12)
9.946 Coritiba/PR (11)
9.271 Barueri/SP (11)
8.336 Remo/PA (8)
7.673 CRB/AL (12)
6.037 Criciúma/SC (12)
3.510 Marília/SP (12)
3.197 Brasiliense/DF (11)
2.707 Ponte Preta/SP (11)
2.444 Avaí/SC (11)
1.893 Portuguesa/SP (11)
1.891 Paulista/SP (11)
1.160 Santo André/SP (11)
1.036 Gama/DF (9)
1.002 Ipatinga/MG (10)
814 São Caetano/SP (12)
340 Ituano/SP (12)

sidis
18 Sep 2007, 03:45 PM
Série A

25.238 Sport/PE (14)
24.515 Flamengo/RJ (12)
22.768 Cruzeiro/MG (13)
21.010 Botafogo/RJ (11)
20.644 São Paulo/SP (12)
19.797 Grêmio/RS (13)
18.146 Fluminense/RJ (14)
17.026 Corinthians/SP (14)
16.263 Palmeiras/SP (12)
16.040 Atlético/MG (13)
15.841 Internacional/RS (13)
13.022 Vasco/RJ (12)
12.015 Náutico/PE (12)
11.047 Goiás/GO (13)
9.208 América/RN (13)
8.682 Atlético/PR (12)
8.329 Figueirense/SC (13)
7.767 Paraná/PR (14)
7.172 Santos/SP (14)
5.223 Juventude/RS (13)

10 Biggest Crowds

Crowd--Game-----------------------Day/month Round
51.552 Flamengo/RJ 1 X 1 Sport/PE ------1 /9 23ª
49.828 Fluminense/RJ 0 X 1 Flamengo/RJ -16/8 11ª
49.495 Flamengo/RJ 1 X 1 Vasco/RJ -----16/9 26ª
45.445 Botafogo/RJ 1 X 1 Flamengo/RJ ---29/8 22ª
44.920 Flamengo/RJ 3 X 1 Goiás/GO -----26/8 21ª
40.871 Fluminense/RJ 1 X 1 Vasco/RJ ----2/9 23ª
40.697 Atlético/MG 3 X 4 Cruzeiro/MG----16/9 26ª
40.162 Corinthians/SP 0 X 0 Paraná/PR --16/6 6ª
40.067 Botafogo/RJ 0 X 2 São Paulo/SP--8 /8 18ª
40.029 São Paulo/SP 5 X 0 Náutico/PE---26/8 21ª

Série B

27.006 Santa Cruz/PE (12)
15.064 Vitória/BA (13)
14.680 Ceará/CE (12)
11.904 Fortaleza/CE (13)
10.415 Coritiba/PR (12)
9.393 Barueri/SP (12)
7.933 Remo/PA (10)
7.404 CRB/AL (13)
6.063 Criciúma/SC (13)
3.611 Brasiliense/DF (13)
3.428 Marília/SP (13)
2.722 Avaí/SC (12)
2.701 Ponte Preta/SP (12)
1.978 Paulista/SP (13)
1.972 Portuguesa/SP (12)
1.651 Gama/DF (10)
1.211 Santo André/SP (12)
1.093 Ipatinga/MG (12)
803 São Caetano/SP (13)
340 Ituano/SP (12)

Série C - Top 10 Attendance

29.703 Bahia/BA (5)
7.791 Joinville/SC (6)
7.641 Atlético/BA (3)
7.429 Vila Nova/GO (7)
7.135 ABC/RN (6)
6.062 Poções/BA (3)
4.228 Atlético/GO (7)
3.948 Confiança/SE (6)
3.562 Rio Branco/AC (6)
3.427 Guarani/SP (6)

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Biggest Revenues U$ 1,00 =~ R$ 2,00:


R$ 3.570.595,00 Fluminense/RJ (14)
R$ 3.495.326,00 Botafogo/RJ (11)
R$ 3.480.189,00 Grêmio/RS (13)
R$ 3.440.166,00 Flamengo/RJ (12)
R$ 3.329.210,00 Cruzeiro/MG (13)
R$ 3.254.726,00 Sport/PE (14)
R$ 2.973.400,00 Palmeiras/SP (12)
R$ 2.935.678,00 Corinthians/SP (14)
R$ 2.854.274,00 Atlético/MG (13)
R$ 2.754.569,00 Internacional/RS (13)
R$ 2.734.533,00 São Paulo/SP (12)
R$ 2.210.475,00 Atlético/PR (12)
R$ 2.139.065,00 Goiás/GO (13)
R$ 1.874.255,00 América/RN (13)
R$ 1.649.970,00 Vasco/RJ (12)
R$ 1.464.532,00 Náutico/PE (12)
R$ 1.232.977,00 Santos/SP (14)
R$ 1.112.626,00 Paraná/PR (14)
R$ 840.522,50 Figueirense/SC (13)
R$ 763.455,00 Juventude/RS (13)

sidis
21 Oct 2007, 12:36 PM
Série A
30.407 Flamengo/RJ (15)
25.054 Sport/PE (16)
23.551 São Paulo/SP (14)
22.877 Cruzeiro/MG (16)
20.300 Grêmio/RS (16)
19.455 Botafogo/RJ (14)
18.471 Atlético/MG (15)
18.246 Fluminense/RJ (16)
18.209 Corinthians/SP (16)
16.903 Internacional/RS (15)
16.360 Palmeiras/SP (15)
13.395 Vasco/RJ (15)
12.537 Náutico/PE (15)
11.029 Goiás/GO (15)
10.908 Atlético/PR (15)
8.557 Figueirense/SC (15)
8.273 Paraná/PR (16)
8.182 América/RN (16)
7.846 Santos/SP (16)
6.023 Juventude/RS (16)

Série B
28.320 Santa Cruz/PE (15)
16.198 Vitória/BA (15)
14.471 Ceará/CE (15)
13.932 Coritiba/PR (15)
11.752 Fortaleza/CE (15)
9.318 Barueri/SP (15)
7.870 Remo/PA (12)
6.809 CRB/AL (15)
6.121 Criciúma/SC (15)
3.505 Marília/SP (15)
3.434 Brasiliense/DF (16)
3.115 Avaí/SC (15)
2.795 Ponte Preta/SP (15)
2.136 Portuguesa/SP (14)
2.100 Ipatinga/MG (16)
1.970 Paulista/SP (15)
1.705 Gama/DF (13)
1.312 Santo André/SP (15)
784 São Caetano/SP (15)
451 Ituano/SP (15)

Série C (2k+ attendance)
29.173 Bahia/BA (8)
10.142 Vila Nova/GO (9)
8.450 ABC/RN (9)
7.791 Joinville/SC (6)
7.641 Atlético/BA (3)
6.062 Poções/BA (3)
5.885 Rio Branco/AC (9)
4.118 Atlético/GO (10)
3.948 Confiança/SE (6)
3.427 Guarani/SP (6)
3.231 Paysandu/PA (3)
2.888 Sampaio Corrêa/MA (6)
2.850 Itumbiara/GO (6)
2.603 CRAC/GO (9)
2.137 Imperatriz/MA (6)
2.125 River/PI (2)

Tickets Revenue (U$1,00 = R$1,80)
Série A
R$ 5.663.469,00 Flamengo/RJ (15)
R$ 4.492.670,00 Grêmio/RS (16)
R$ 4.217.695,00 Fluminense/RJ (16)
R$ 4.156.884,00 Botafogo/RJ (14)
R$ 3.907.770,00 Palmeiras/SP (15)
R$ 3.775.703,00 São Paulo/SP (14)
R$ 3.752.194,00 Cruzeiro/MG (16)
R$ 3.741.650,00 Sport/PE (16)
R$ 3.528.749,00 Corinthians/SP (16)
R$ 3.452.781,00 Internacional/RS (15)
R$ 3.194.484,00 Atlético/MG (15)
R$ 3.147.930,00 Atlético/PR (15)
R$ 2.298.345,00 Goiás/GO (15)
R$ 2.102.321,00 Vasco/RJ (15)
R$ 2.049.026,00 Náutico/PE (15)
R$ 2.025.105,00 América/RN (16)
R$ 1.587.008,00 Santos/SP (16)
R$ 1.327.896,00 Paraná/PR (16)
R$ 1.098.785,00 Juventude/RS (16)
R$ 990.368,00 Figueirense/SC (15)

Série B (1 million +)
R$ 2.819.953,00 Coritiba/PR (15)
R$ 2.211.670,00 Santa Cruz/PE (15)
R$ 1.966.440,00 Vitória/BA (15)
R$ 1.927.612,50 Ceará/CE (15)
R$ 1.637.183,00 Barueri/SP (15)
R$ 1.628.635,50 Fortaleza/CE (15)
R$ 1.040.705,00 Remo/PA (12)

Série C (1 million +)
R$ 2.056.014,50 Bahia/BA (8)

Mengão86
21 Oct 2007, 12:49 PM
Thanks for the update sidis.

rkleemann
20 Nov 2007, 04:15 PM
Flamengo has brought in excess of 60,000 the past few matches, including almost 90,000 against Santos in its last match

it's impossible to compete with flamengo as far as attendance. If the team is doing well, and the fans motivated (lately motivated also by breaking records) they can fill up easily.

To have an average of over 30,000 for the season is completely unthinkable in Brasil in the past 10-15 years.

napolisoccer
21 Nov 2007, 06:17 AM
What is now the average attendance of the brasileirao?

sidis
21 Nov 2007, 04:42 PM
What is now the average attendance of the brasileirao?

17.030 (358 of 378 games played).

sidis
21 Nov 2007, 04:49 PM
Average Attendance

36.842 Flamengo/RJ (18)
28.510 São Paulo/SP (17)
25.883 Sport/PE (18)
23.164 Cruzeiro/MG (18)
22.225 Atlético/MG (18)
21.241 Grêmio/RS (18)
19.190 Corinthians/SP (18)
18.314 Botafogo/RJ (17)
17.948 Internacional/RS (18)
17.560 Fluminense/RJ (18)
17.256 Palmeiras/SP (18)
14.780 Vasco/RJ (18)
12.931 Goiás/GO (18)
12.630 Náutico/PE (18)
11.922 Atlético/PR (18)
9.370 América/RN (18)
8.721 Figueirense/SC (18)
8.397 Paraná/PR (18)
8.092 Santos/SP (18)
6.332 Juventude/RS (18)

Total revenue

R$ 8.263.552,00 Flamengo/RJ (18)
R$ 6.110.415,00 São Paulo/SP (17)
R$ 5.201.705,00 Grêmio/RS (18)
R$ 4.802.897,50 Palmeiras/SP (18)
R$ 4.612.407,00 Botafogo/RJ (17)
R$ 4.507.155,00 Fluminense/RJ (18)
R$ 4.497.930,00 Sport/PE (18)
R$ 4.313.234,00 Internacional/RS (18)
R$ 4.123.281,00 Corinthians/SP (18)
R$ 4.086.527,00 Cruzeiro/MG (18)
R$ 3.952.887,50 Atlético/PR (18)
R$ 3.875.386,50 Atlético/MG (18)
R$ 2.882.635,00 Vasco/RJ (18)
R$ 2.716.360,00 Náutico/PE (18)
R$ 2.685.957,50 Goiás/GO (18)
R$ 2.619.455,00 América/RN (18)
R$ 1.812.933,00 Santos/SP (18)
R$ 1.489.661,00 Paraná/PR (18)
R$ 1.273.890,00 Juventude/RS (18)
R$ 1.237.611,50 Figueirense/SC (18)

Pingudo
07 Dec 2007, 08:20 PM
17.030 (358 of 378 games played).

Not a bad average.

Where does Flamengo play? Maracana? Does Corinthians play at Pacaembu?

Also, where can I watch highlights of the Brasileirão? Fox soccer channel doesn't show them anymore. :confused:

sidis
07 Dec 2007, 08:56 PM
http://video.globo.com have highlights of all matches (in portuguese) and the goals of the week.

search for the term "campeonato brasileiro" or a specific team.
http://video.globo.com/Videos/Busca/0,,7959,00.html?b=campeonato%20brasileiro

the final numbers:

Games: 380
Goals 1047
Goal Average: 2,76
Ties 90
Away wins 192
Home Wins 98
Total Revenue U$ 47.082.852,05
Average Revenue U$ 124.888,20
Total Attendance 6.582.976
Average Attendance(377 games) 17.461

Average (number of games)
39.221 Flamengo/RJ (19)
28.622 São Paulo/SP (18)
26.070 Sport/PE (19)
23.504 Cruzeiro/MG (19)
23.199 Atlético/MG (19)
21.937 Grêmio/RS (19)
19.978 Corinthians/SP (19)
18.335 Internacional/RS (19)
17.774 Botafogo/RJ (18)
17.586 Palmeiras/SP (19)
17.071 Fluminense/RJ (19)
15.143 Vasco/RJ (19)
14.051 Goiás/GO (19)
12.912 Náutico/PE (19)
12.508 Atlético/PR (19)
9.370 América/RN (18)
8.903 Figueirense/SC (19)
8.766 Paraná/PR (19)
8.424 Santos/SP (19)
6.032 Juventude/RS (19)

Total of Attendance (number of games)
745.207 Flamengo/RJ (19)
515.204 São Paulo/SP (18)
495.336 Sport/PE (19)
446.568 Cruzeiro/MG (19)
440.789 Atlético/MG (19)
416.796 Grêmio/RS (19)
379.591 Corinthians/SP (19)
348.371 Internacional/RS (19)
334.138 Palmeiras/SP (19)
324.343 Fluminense/RJ (19)
319.925 Botafogo/RJ (18)
287.723 Vasco/RJ (19)
266.976 Goiás/GO (19)
245.331 Náutico/PE (19)
237.645 Atlético/PR (19)
169.159 Figueirense/SC (19)
168.656 América/RN (18)
166.559 Paraná/PR (19)
160.051 Santos/SP (19)
114.608 Juventude/RS (19)

Total Revenue
R$ 9.029.116,00 Flamengo/RJ (19)
R$ 6.416.131,00 São Paulo/SP (18)
R$ 5.860.104,00 Grêmio/RS (19)
R$ 5.247.162,50 Palmeiras/SP (19)
R$ 4.828.566,00 Sport/PE (19)
R$ 4.703.322,00 Botafogo/RJ (18)
R$ 4.693.344,00 Internacional/RS (19)
R$ 4.629.374,00 Fluminense/RJ (19)
R$ 4.448.101,00 Corinthians/SP (19)
R$ 4.327.202,50 Atlético/PR (19)
R$ 4.230.293,00 Cruzeiro/MG (19)
R$ 4.097.411,00 Atlético/MG (19)
R$ 3.052.655,00 Vasco/RJ (19)
R$ 2.975.564,00 Náutico/PE (19)
R$ 2.771.443,00 Goiás/GO (19)
R$ 2.619.455,00 América/RN (18)
R$ 1.903.687,00 Santos/SP (19)
R$ 1.615.936,00 Paraná/PR (19)
R$ 1.312.006,50 Figueirense/SC (19)
R$ 1.279.975,00 Juventude/RS (19)

Average Reevnue
R$ 475.216,63 Flamengo/RJ (19)
R$ 356.451,72 São Paulo/SP (18)
R$ 308.426,53 Grêmio/RS (19)
R$ 276.166,45 Palmeiras/SP (19)
R$ 261.295,67 Botafogo/RJ (18)
R$ 254.135,05 Sport/PE (19)
R$ 247.018,11 Internacional/RS (19)
R$ 243.651,26 Fluminense/RJ (19)
R$ 234.110,58 Corinthians/SP (19)
R$ 227.747,50 Atlético/PR (19)
R$ 222.647,00 Cruzeiro/MG (19)
R$ 215.653,21 Atlético/MG (19)
R$ 160.666,05 Vasco/RJ (19)
R$ 156.608,63 Náutico/PE (19)
R$ 145.865,42 Goiás/GO (19)
R$ 145.525,28 América/RN (18)
R$ 100.194,05 Santos/SP (19)
R$ 85.049,26 Paraná/PR (19)
R$ 69.052,97 Figueirense/SC (19)
R$ 67.367,11 Juventude/RS (19)
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flamengo play almost all games in maracanã, they play some games in another stadiums because maracana was used to panam games 2007, corinthians play all their games at pacaembu stadium, but play the derbies in Morumbi.