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16 Jul 2007, 10:41 PM
With the Euros just one season away does it bother you that players like Ballack, Podolski, Metzelder, Schweinsteiger will potentially spend most of the upcoming season on the bench for their respective clubs? It's quite a large chunk of the current National Team having little playing time.
ForeverRed
16 Jul 2007, 10:59 PM
With the Euros just one season away does it bother you that players like Ballack, Podolski, Metzelder, Schweinsteiger will potentially spend most of the upcoming season on the bench for their respective clubs? It's quite a large chunk of the current National Team having little playing time.
Ballack is always a starter with Chelsea. Metze can be injured the whole season and show up and have a great tournament. Schweiny will get significant playing time and so will Podolski, Bayern have a lot of games this season.
And there are always friendlies and qualifiers to keep them fresh.
squidward123
17 Jul 2007, 01:20 AM
With the Euros just one season away does it bother you that players like Ballack, Podolski, Metzelder, Schweinsteiger will potentially spend most of the upcoming season on the bench for their respective clubs? It's quite a large chunk of the current National Team having little playing time.
nope, they can get lots of rest
²
17 Jul 2007, 02:38 AM
Ballack is always a starter with Chelsea. Metze can be injured the whole season and show up and have a great tournament. Schweiny will get significant playing time and so will Podolski, Bayern have a lot of games this season.
And there are always friendlies and qualifiers to keep them fresh.
Well Mourinho seems likely to revert to a 4-3-3 and that leaves Ballack on the bench as the club won't bench their glory boy.
I am concerned by form that's all.
squidward123
17 Jul 2007, 02:55 AM
Well Mourinho seems likely to revert to a 4-3-3 and that leaves Ballack on the bench as the club won't bench their glory boy.
I am concerned by form that's all.
he will definitely find a place for ballack in the 4-3-3. Then it's up to him to keep his place
Hendrik
17 Jul 2007, 07:05 AM
nope, they can get lots of rest
Yeah, one of the key reasons Lahm had such a great WC was that he only started to play in the last couple of months of the season and then shared playing time with Lizarazu. I would be more concerned if it was the other way round.
squidward123
17 Jul 2007, 09:16 AM
Yeah, one of the key reasons Lahm had such a great WC was that he only started to play in the last couple of months of the season and then shared playing time with Lizarazu. I would be more concerned if it was the other way round.
injured?
Dead Fingers
17 Jul 2007, 09:20 AM
Well, at least Poldi will be playing w/ Klose in practice. :D
Seriously, for the Bayern players it will be a long season with European play, and any Bayern fan knows that Hitzfeld rotates players with some frequency.
squidward123
17 Jul 2007, 09:24 AM
Well, at least Poldi will be playing w/ Klose in practice. :D
that's a major plus.
how many other countries have their starting strikers in the same club team?
Dead Fingers
17 Jul 2007, 09:31 AM
that's a major plus.
how many other countries have their starting strikers in the same club team?
That's assuming Poldi IS one of the starting forwards. Not saying he won't, but that's far from guaranteed. I would imagine in the next several months you will see a few different players at forward as they work on a final lineup.
As to having them on the same club squad? I would like to think it will be good.
squidward123
17 Jul 2007, 09:38 AM
That's assuming Poldi IS one of the starting forwards. Not saying he won't, but that's far from guaranteed. I would imagine in the next several months you will see a few different players at forward as they work on a final lineup.
As to having them on the same club squad? I would like to think it will be good.
you're right podolski might not be there as a starter, but my money's still on him as he has a such a great understanding with klose.
they have an established partership and playing everyday in training together will help so much in terms of fine-tuning those tiny things that you can try during a game but have to get perfect for it to work.
Dead Fingers
17 Jul 2007, 09:53 AM
Form has more to do with it ...than an "understanding" between him and Klose.
squidward123
17 Jul 2007, 10:01 AM
Form has more to do with it ...than an "understanding" between him and Klose.
form might be spurred from this. it's like walking into a place you have proven to like - the german NT, and a partnership with klose.
that's what the coaches might go for.
Hendrik
17 Jul 2007, 12:05 PM
injured?
No, I'd be concerned if especially the young guys played 50+ matches a year from the very first minute until the final whistle. If a WC or Euro took place this summer Lahm and Schweinsteiger for instance wouldn't be able to perform the way they did last year after this long season.
If Podolski has another 5 goal+- season and Gomez scores three times as many you have to break up the partnership. In the end you have to play the best players and Klose usually adapts quickly to a new partner.
squidward123
17 Jul 2007, 04:33 PM
no i meant how long was lahm injured for last season before the world cup?
ForeverRed
17 Jul 2007, 04:52 PM
Well Mourinho seems likely to revert to a 4-3-3 and that leaves Ballack on the bench as the club won't bench their glory boy.
I am concerned by form that's all.
Mourinho looooves Ballack and he doesn't listen to the dumb english critics. He knows how important he is. He'll always play.
Cris 09
17 Jul 2007, 05:14 PM
no i meant how long was lahm injured for last season before the world cup?
He still had a brace or cast on his arm during the WC!!
Cris 09
17 Jul 2007, 05:27 PM
Mourinho looooves Ballack and he doesn't listen to the dumb english critics. He knows how important he is. He'll always play.
Mourinho on Ballack and the new formation from BBC Sports (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/c/chelsea/6899379.stm);
Looking ahead to the new season, Mourinho sent a warning to midfielder Michael Ballack, saying he is looking to ditch the diamond formation which best suits the German star.
"I want to go back to wingers and play attacking football," Mourinho explained. "The objective of having players like Robben, Cole, Malouda and Kalou is because we want to give width to our game, to give speed, to give creativity.
"I don't want to play football with a diamond any more.
"So I don't think it will be easy for Ballack. But he's a top player, a top personality and I think he's the kind of guy ready to fight for a place."
KumarsS
17 Jul 2007, 06:18 PM
Podolski and Ballack both had rough seasons last year, but were outstanding on national team duty anyway.
Ballack will be more motivated than ever next year, fighting for his place in the Blues line-up will keep him in top shape and that will carry over into NT performances. Podolski might not be as concerned with fighting or a place since he'll get his fair share of starts because of rotation, but his chemistry with Klose is undeniable and anyone who has that kind of fruitful connection (it gave us 8 goals last in the WC last summer) with our star striker merits a starting spot until either he stops performing for the NT or Kuranyi becomes so outstanding that it is worth giving Klose a new strike partner.
I don't think Metzelder will be on the bench at Real. If Sergio Ramos is deployed at right-back, which isn't unlikely, the central defensive pair will most likely be Cannavaro and Christoph.
Hendrik
17 Jul 2007, 06:40 PM
Cannavaro will most likely be gone before the start of the season, he's not part of Schuster's plans. So it's Ramos, Pepe and Metzelder. Metzelder will get enough playing time.
no i meant how long was lahm injured for last season before the world cup?
He missed the first half of the season, he came back shortly before the winterbreak. He played 20 games, came on as a sub 9 times.