The truth of Igor's visa problems [R] (maybe)

[McGinty]

Sorry, if anyone has already posted this.

According to soccer365.com, its not the Wizards fault.

Simutenkov was not allowed to enter the country after Morelia did not submit the proper Visa paperwork to the Mexican immigration office prior to the Wizards travel day on Monday.

Standard procedures have the host country filing proper Visa paperwork for the visiting team for those players from countries that do not have a relationship with the Mexican Immigration office. Foreigners Dario Fabbro and Stephen Armstrong were allowed to enter without paperwork because Argentinean and British citizens, like United States citizens, are allowed to freely enter Mexico without filing additional Visa paperwork.

Seems like a back a$$wards system to me. Not that it mattered anyway.

[Wizardscharter]

Originally posted by McGinty
Sorry, if anyone has already posted this.

According to soccer365.com, its not the Wizards fault.

Seems like a back a$$wards system to me. Not that it mattered anyway.

At the very least shouldn't someone in the KC office have been on top of it to make sure it was done? Maybe someone did. Still, it didn't get done. Even better, handle it on our end. I dunno, Igor isn't 5 goals, but it would be nice to get just one trip to Mexico without having to pack the adult indusrty strength lube.

[GersMan]

Seems to me that a sanction is in order if a team's mis or mal feasance kept its opponent from fielding a full-strength side.

Having said that, I agree that the system seems odd.

[BenC1357]

yeah, CONCACAF bring a santion on an MFL team. that'll be the day.

[soccerko]

MLSNet.com is reporting the same thing
http://www.mlsnet.com/content/02/cc0808kc.html

[soulman]

Why not just "accidently" forget to process a couple of their key players visas for the game in the states? OOPS! It ain't a two way street down there - US citizens can get into Mexico w/o a visa, but they need at least a travel visa to be here - or at least that is my understanding.

[big spaniel]

If, in fact, the host club, Morelia, was responsible for getting a visa for, Simutenkov, I would have just turned around and gone home once I learned they didn't come through, regardless of who's fault it was or what actually happened.

[Lucid]

God, and I thought this was actually going to be our first legitimate game in Mexico. What a crock of s**t! While I don't think I'd do it just because I'd feel too guilty about screwing another team over, the fault lies with the jackasses that developed this system. I think it's pretty obvious, especially in Mexico that teams are going to screw other teams over because of this system. Is this Mexico or CONCACAF that made the system this way, I'd assume Mexico, but I dunno.

Anyways. Yeah, I can't complain about the result and say we would have had a better shot at winning, we lost and crap like this happens, though it seems to happen more in Mexico than other places. But to prevent future problems, c'mon people, open up your freakin eyes!

God this pisses me off. Bravo Mexico club, you won once again by screwing us over.

[Mr. Oz]

Originally posted by Lucid
Bravo Mexico club, you won once again by screwing us over.

I don't know about this one. 6-1? That's a pretty good ass-whipping to me without the screwing. I'm gonna try to get a game tape of this. I hear this was televised in Mexico.

[Lucid]

Originally posted by Mr. Oz


I don't know about this one. 6-1? That's a pretty good ass-whipping to me without the screwing. I'm gonna try to get a game tape of this. I hear this was televised in Mexico.

I know, but was it a 100% clean soccer match? No.

As I said, I'm not gonna sit here and play the could've/would've/what-if's, we lost, but who knows what would have happened with Igor in there? Igor creates a lot of offense, which would make Morelia play more defense, so who knows what would have happened.

We at least know it would have changed the game, though we don't know how much. And if I don't have one of my best players on the field, that's a big problem.

[LMvCP]

Originally posted by Lucid


I know, but was it a 100% clean soccer match? No.

As I said, I'm not gonna sit here and play the could've/would've/what-if's, we lost, but who knows what would have happened with Igor in there? Igor creates a lot of offense, which would make Morelia play more defense, so who knows what would have happened.



Do you make it a habit of making blanket accusations without even watching the game. My advice is to get a satellite from mexico. They arent that expensive and you get a lot of football. I have one but the current apartment complex I live in does not allow them. My contract ends early september and i am moving to place that allows Dishes.

I dont know how MLS clubs run thier business... but each club in the MFL has a international department whos job is to find out other countries immigration laws and policies. Thats why Mexican clubs use thier people instead of having to depend on anyone. MAybe the wiz should try doing it that way.

I dont mean to troll, but KC just like the majority of the MLS teams do not know how to play on the road. I didnt watch the game, but i saw the replays. HE recorded the game but I really dont care to see it.

[McGinty]

Originally posted by rdl674


I dont know how MLS clubs run thier business... but each club in the MFL has a international department whos job is to find out other countries immigration laws and policies. Thats why Mexican clubs use thier people instead of having to depend on anyone. MAybe the wiz should try doing it that way.

I dont mean to troll, but KC just like the majority of the MLS teams do not know how to play on the road. I didnt watch the game, but i saw the replays. HE recorded the game but I really dont care to see it.

According to the soccer365.com article, it is standard procedure for the host team to file the paperwork. How that got started, I don't know.

I'll somewhat buy the arguement that MLS teams don't know how to play on the road, although apparently they played fairly well against Santos. I'm sure this comes from a lack of experience playing in Cup competitions like this.

[Mr. Oz]

Originally posted by rdl674


I dont mean to troll, but KC just like the majority of the MLS teams do not know how to play on the road.

Not just MLS clubs, that goes for almost everyone really. That's why most play for a point on the road and 3 at home.

[Lucid]

Originally posted by rdl674
I dont know how MLS clubs run thier business... but each club in the MFL has a international department whos job is to find out other countries immigration laws and policies. Thats why Mexican clubs use thier people instead of having to depend on anyone. MAybe the wiz should try doing it that way.

Wow... if there's a dept. who's sole job was to get Igor in the country, then that's an even bigger problem than I assumed before. They flat out dicked us.

I'm off to write my thank you e-mail to Morelia, telling them what great practitioners of good sportsmanship they are. :rolleyes: