FINAL: Argentina vs Brazil (r)

[efernandez9]

we will see the same final from last copa!

will we see the same heroics? I do not think, some how I feel brazil misses big names to go along with Robinho or diego.

your comments?

ahhhhh....NO MORE pks pls....lets hope is all done in regulation
copa america should/must have gol de oro in over time?

[SCIX]

Brasil has to play a hell of a game to beat Argentina.

[Asalieri]

It will hardly be the same game, though.

Oh no. This time Brazil's got another torture coming. :)

[argentine soccer fan]

Brazil plays lackadaisical against most teams but they always get up for Argentina. They save their best for us.

This is going to be a tough test, but we're going to come through it and win. This team is just too good.

[Sagacious]

I hope Argentian wins this time! When did we win a cup last time? In 1993?

[Colorado_GAUCHO]

I've said from day one that argentina has this one on the bag. We just don't have the firepower to deal with the squad they called. It's a merit for players like Tevez and Messi that despite the long seasons put their country above all that is remarkable. Our primadonas think they are too good for copa america, they like the european spotlight, bunch of mercenaries...

If you asked me how this game was going to go in the first round I would say that argentina would do a goleada easy. But since Julio Batista is on the team now I see that we will put a decent fight. Not enough to win because we can't do that with v.love as forward (one that doesn't score goals btw) only Robinho is a the caliber of Riquelme, Tevez, Messi and cia so argentina should have no surprises Sunday, and that's what we got for taking a C team. Last time we won with a B team but not only was way better then this C (with Adriano and all) but we also got lucky. We can't get lucky twice,

can we?

[ElClu]

Yes you can.
In fact,you have the kind of luck that helped you win everything many times.
The example is this last game agaisn't uruguay.
They had it in the bag,only one more penalty and urugay woul've advanced.
But the gods of futbol didn't agree from above and they had to miss it.
Yes,you can always have luck.
This is the only game, worldwide (argentina-brasil), where there is no way to make any pre-analisys,because of this "luck" factor.
It happened many times before to leave this factor aside.
It is clear who is coming in stronger,no doubt,just check who both teams opponents were and how they were defeated (and lost to,in the case of brasil),and you can really say "brasil had it easy",and also " argentina killed everybody without effort".
But, does it matter for the next game??
Will it be a factor?

[hectorcrib]

Brazil will win yet again, 2-1

[fejas]

This game has a clear favourite: Argentina. Even if Brazil had taken all of its top players to the tournament, the way they've been playing under Dunga would still make Argentina the favourite here. Add to that the fact the Argentines have been playing quite well lately, and you'd have a recipe for disaster...

Except this is as traditional a match as you can get in international football, and all bets are off when these two sides face each other. Just like Uruguay always gives Brazil trouble no matter how differently they have been playing, Brazil always gives Argentina trouble even when the opponents are better. There are also some bad memories for Argentina in regards to the last Copa America final, even though I don't think that would play much into this game.

In the end I think Argentina wins by 2-1 or 3-1. I hope I'm wrong though (there's always wishful thinking).

Cheers,

Carlos
http://www.brazilianfutebol.blogspot.com

[HINCHADERIVER91]

I've said from day one that argentina has this one on the bag. We just don't have the firepower to deal with the squad they called. It's a merit for players like Tevez and Messi that despite the long seasons put their country above all that is remarkable. Our primadonas think they are too good for copa america, they like the european spotlight, bunch of mercenaries...

If you asked me how this game was going to go in the first round I would say that argentina would do a goleada easy. But since Julio Batista is on the team now I see that we will put a decent fight. Not enough to win because we can't do that with v.love as forward (one that doesn't score goals btw) only Robinho is a the caliber of Riquelme, Tevez, Messi and cia so argentina should have no surprises Sunday, and that's what we got for taking a C team. Last time we won with a B team but not only was way better then this C (with Adriano and all) but we also got lucky. We can't get lucky twice,

can we?
dunga said that its basicly a B team

[bandaide]

is Gilberto Silva suspended? he picked up yellows against both Uruguay and Chile

[HINCHADERIVER91]

hes gon play still.///
one of the refs forogot to put his name as a yello.

[kickinthehead]

Argentina will win. No doubt.

Unless it comes to penalties. Though, having seen the Brazilians take the penalities in the semi, I guess Argentina could win even there.

[Asalieri]

You kidding? It's Robinho and 10 nameless dudes wearing Yellow shirts.

They have a player called Elano. I think they should follow his lead and call the entire team they brought to Copa America "Elano".

[Colorado_GAUCHO]

dunga said that its basicly a B team

I guess you can give credit to a part time gigolo like dunga. He was never a coach and I believe we will never be one. Whatever he says should be discarded.

[Colorado_GAUCHO]

Then again in futebol everything is possible if you are brave enough. I know that for a fact when my team, Internacional from Porto Alegre-Brasil, a bunch of no name nobody average guys took on primadonas media queens of Barcelona's ronaldinho gaucho & cia and we won the Club World Cup.

hT-Lk3wOdbE

barcelona was favorite, they had a much stronger squad on paper but he had a lot more desire and guts to go out there and shut the entire world. I guess nobody ever believe we could do it, except the colorados itself. So if those punks on dunga's team have some self respect and vergonha na cara, they could win this thing.

[Failed States]

A betting man should go with Argentina on this one.

Than again this is one of the biggest rivalries in the world and anything can happen.

The Uruguay vs. Brazil game was quality you could feel the history behind the two playing out on the field, and it gets better on Sunday.

[Colorado_GAUCHO]

A betting man should go with Argentina on this one.

Than again this is one of the biggest rivalries in the world and anything can happen.

The Uruguay vs. Brazil game was quality you could feel the history behind the two playing out on the field, and it gets better on Sunday.


well,

With the game I posted above I made it more than 3k on bets. And I really should have bet more. I'm starting to have a hint that Brasil is going to take this thing. Any takers?

[ElClu]

Nah
Don't bet against argentina this time.
When you hear riquelme saying "los muchahos estan contentos,you estoy feliz" in the interviews,brasil could only wish that can put up a rather useless fight.

[bsas]

I guess you can give credit to a part time gigolo like dunga. He was never a coach and I believe we will never be one. Whatever he says should be discarded.


Strange... You seemed to like him back then when he was selected:

DUNGA

Great choice! I know the guy since the 80's (very good friend of my cousin since they played together as kids for Internacional), the guy is strong minded, won't be slave to the media or the paulistas, cariocas bs, won't call GORnaldo to be part of the nt. And he said it all when he raised the cup in 94

ISSO E' PRA VOCES SEUS TRAIRA!!!

chupa vagabundagem

acabou a praia

o gaucho chegou!


:rolleyes: