The Sad Truth

[albertorei]

THE SAD TRUTH

I am going to be very frank.

We are just bad. Plain and simple bad.

It’s not only the coach, or the players or the managers, or even the fans. It’s a combination of all.

We play on a very rudimentary level, which means no set plays, no creation, no brilliance, no excellence from anyone. Our players lack fundamentals. They are used to perform in our horrendous league, where soccer is inexistent, replaced by a bunch of people hitting the ball to the other team's side to see if somebody messes up. And if they don’t, they start all over again from the other side.

So when they see themselves in front of a team that knows how to play organized football, they panic.

How can you tell they panic? Easy, it’s usually evident when they posess the ball. They don’t know what to do with it.
If they don’t return it where it came from, they kick it away, wherever, never mind that there was a teammate no more than 10 yards away. They panic, I am telling you. Just watch the games again.

That’s why you see defensive games like against Venezuela, Bolivia, Argentina. It’s not strategy from the coach, bull.
When you don’t know what you are doing, it’s just easier to wait and react than to be in charge. Think your first day on the job, did you wanna take any hard assignments?

I saw more than once a Peruvian player kicking the ball to allow a corner kick or to the sideline when it was just as easy to save it an do something with it. You start wondering why until you realize these people lack skills, and they are there only because there is nobody better.

These are the people that we count on to get us to South Africa.


Let me make clear that I don’t blame the players. Or Uribe, althought choosing him as a coach after failing terribly the first time tells you all you want to know about Peruvian football.

They are all a product of our system. Our system is producing flawed players. If the system is not fixed, we can expect another 30 years of failure.

Sorry, but it's the truth.

[Helmut]

Hi, Im new here. First time poster long time reader. I agree with you that it is a combination of things but to me the main factor is that people just aren't going to the stadiums. If more people start going to league games than that will generate income and help the youth programs as well as bring in more qualified coaches and foreign players. This, along with getting rid of the corupt managers will do wonders for our league.

[albertorei]

People don't go to the stadiums because of the terribly unattractive games played, which is the same reason for the low ratings on TV.
Very little money comes in, so the big three or four (relatively speaking) fight for a spot in the S.A. Cups, where they will lay an enormous egg in the round stage, but at least will collect enough money to pay for locals and a couple of third or four rated players from the Rio de la Plata basin.
In the meantime, the smaller teams will do as they can, paying peanuts to people that should be driving combis or selling lottery tickets on the street. All and all, the level of play remains low, which is why people don't go to watch the games in the first place.

It's all a vicious circle and somebody needs to break it, or we'll be in it forever.

[Peruvian_6663]

THE SAD TRUTH

I am going to be very frank.

We are just bad. Plain and simple bad.

It’s not only the coach, or the players or the managers, or even the fans. It’s a combination of all.

We play on a very rudimentary level, which means no set plays, no creation, no brilliance, no excellence from anyone. Our players lack fundamentals. They are used to perform in our horrendous league, where soccer is inexistent, replaced by a bunch of people hitting the ball to the other team's side to see if somebody messes up. And if they don’t, they start all over again from the other side.

So when they see themselves in front of a team that knows how to play organized football, they panic.

How can you tell they panic? Easy, it’s usually evident when they posess the ball. They don’t know what to do with it.
If they don’t return it where it came from, they kick it away, wherever, never mind that there was a teammate no more than 10 yards away. They panic, I am telling you. Just watch the games again.

That’s why you see defensive games like against Venezuela, Bolivia, Argentina. It’s not strategy from the coach, bull.
When you don’t know what you are doing, it’s just easier to wait and react than to be in charge. Think your first day on the job, did you wanna take any hard assignments?

I saw more than once a Peruvian player kicking the ball to allow a corner kick or to the sideline when it was just as easy to save it an do something with it. You start wondering why until you realize these people lack skills, and they are there only because there is nobody better.

These are the people that we count on to get us to South Africa.


Let me make clear that I don’t blame the players. Or Uribe, althought choosing him as a coach after failing terribly the first time tells you all you want to know about Peruvian football.

They are all a product of our system. Our system is producing flawed players. If the system is not fixed, we can expect another 30 years of failure.

Sorry, but it's the truth.

so calling mroe people from outside of peru will fix this?

shit lets get pajuelo back, oh oh and abel lobaton, lets keep calling mendoza

and the games vs venezuela argentina and uruguay was defensive because of the couch choice, put to many on defense only 3 on offense

some of them do panic, which is why there arent on the field, most of them dont have comunication on the feild

[KesOne]

Wow, seems the Peruvians didnt exactly welcome back la sele with open arms :eek:


La selección peruana es abucheada a su llegada a Lima
(Lima) (EFE) La selección peruana fue abucheada a su llegada a Lima por unas 250 personas que reclamaron el retiro del técnico Julio César Uribe, criticado por el pésimo desempeño de la escuadra nacional en la Copa América.

La llegada del equipo nacional, alrededor de las 10.00 hora local (15.00 GMT), suscitó un gran alboroto en el aeropuerto internacional de Lima, donde los aficionados se concentraron para recibir a los jugadores con insultos, silbatos, tomates y huevos.

En medio del bullicio, se dejaron escuchar frases como "que se vayan a casa", "Uribe devuelve la plata" u "otro técnico", entre otros insultos, en clara alusión a la criticada actuación del técnico.

La selección peruana confirmó su mala actuación en la Copa América el pasado domingo, tras perder por 4-0 contra Argentina en el partido de cuartos de final al que clasificó tras un difícil empate a dos con Bolivia.

Los altercados provocaron que se extremaran las medidas de seguridad en el terminal aéreo, donde se desplazaron entre 20 y 30 agentes policiales para salvaguardar al equipo, que tardó más de una hora en salir del recinto.

Aunque los jugadores tenían previsto dejar el aeropuerto en sus vehículos personales, la situación obligó a disponer de un autobús con medidas de seguridad, al que los jugadores ingresaron directamente desde el aeropuerto.

En declaraciones a la prensa, el presidente de la Comisión de Selecciones de Perú, Juvenal Silva, señaló que el equipo ha cumplido con su cometido de clasificar a cuartos de final y manifestó que no aspiraban a mucho más.

Agregó que la plantilla nacional es "excelente" pero puntualizó que el equipo tiene que trabajar "mucho más" para conseguir las eliminatorias al Mundial de Sudáfrica 2010.

"La Copa América es un proceso, una previa (para los mundiales), en la que se ha logrado un objetivo", detalló Silva. EFE

http://www.peru.com/futbol/AutoNoticias/CopaAmericaVenezuela2007/2007/07/10/DetalleNoticia91694.asp

[Helmut]

Albertorei,

I understand your point about the bad quality league but without the income the vicious circle continues. It is up to the fans to make an effort and come out to watch the games. Also the teams need to make a better effort to promote coming out to the stadiums. If we want our football to succeed we need to fill those seats. Without funds, the league cannot be attractive and survive. Money is not going to fall out of the sky. Basically what I am saying is that we need to start somewhere and I think this is the right place to start.

[Mr. Beelzebub]

Getting a new manager being only 3 months away from qualifying matches would be a fatal mistake... Hopefully Uribe learned something from thie Cup and will finally call more midfielders and less ********ing attackers.

[albertorei]

Wow, seems the Peruvians didnt exactly welcome back la sele with open arms :eek:


http://www.peru.com/futbol/AutoNoticias/CopaAmericaVenezuela2007/2007/07/10/DetalleNoticia91694.asp

Me da pena por los jugadores. Los aficionados tienen que entender que estamos mandando a gente a la guerra a pelear con palos y piedras mientras nuestros rivales tienen cañones y metralletas. Es hasta injusto.

Nuestros futbolistas dan lo maximo de si mismos, no veo a ninguno que no se raje, no se les puede pedir mas. Acuerdense, no se puede pedir peras al olmo. Esperar que Mariño se despierte jugando a la par con Messi, o que Bazalar sea el nuevo Riquelme es una locura, POR ALGO JUEGAN EN EL PERU, NO?

Repito, somos malos. Mientras mas pronto lo entendamos, mejor para todos.

[Helmut]

Esta muy mal que se hayan portado asi con los jugadores. Que jugador va querer jugar por Peru con hinchas asi?

[KesOne]

Me da pena por los jugadores. Los aficionados tienen que entender que estamos mandando a gente a la guerra a pelear con palos y piedras mientras nuestros rivales tienen cañones y metralletas. Es hasta injusto.

Nuestros futbolistas dan lo maximo de si mismos, no veo a ninguno que no se raje, no se les puede pedir mas. Acuerdense, no se puede pedir peras al olmo. Esperar que Mariño se despierte jugando a la par con Messi, o que Bazalar sea el nuevo Riquelme es una locura, POR ALGO JUEGAN EN EL PERU, NO?

Repito, somos malos. Mientras mas pronto lo entendamos, mejor para todos.

The future is the U17 and some of the U20, thats about all you can look forward to. You can talk about how to mejorar el futbol Peruano all day long, all year long, noone is going to pay attention. But I know what you mean.

[albertorei]

Albertorei,

I understand your point about the bad quality league but without the income the vicious circle continues. It is up to the fans to make an effort and come out to watch the games. Also the teams need to make a better effort to promote coming out to the stadiums. If we want our football to succeed we need to fill those seats. Without funds, the league cannot be attractive and survive. Money is not going to fall out of the sky. Basically what I am saying is that we need to start somewhere and I think this is the right place to start.

You are putting the onus on the fans, and that's not going to happen. I think first we need to upgrade our product. The football chiefs need to devise a way to elevate the quality of the football played, and then market themselves. Once that happens, people will come.

But I doubt that will ever happen with our current crop of comechados that only live for today and don't look at the way they are killing Peruvian football.

[Helmut]

Like you said it, It's sad but true.

[BorrachoNJ]

welcome to the noobsters!


a nice change for once....:)

[KesOne]

welcome to the noobsters!


a nice change for once....:)

Thank you, thank you.

Long time lurker, and long time ulcer causer :D

[BorrachoNJ]

see what i mean?:D

[Guti™]

Me da pena por los jugadores. Los aficionados tienen que entender que estamos mandando a gente a la guerra a pelear con palos y piedras mientras nuestros rivales tienen cañones y metralletas. Es hasta injusto.

Nuestros futbolistas dan lo maximo de si mismos, no veo a ninguno que no se raje, no se les puede pedir mas. Acuerdense, no se puede pedir peras al olmo. Esperar que Mariño se despierte jugando a la par con Messi, o que Bazalar sea el nuevo Riquelme es una locura, POR ALGO JUEGAN EN EL PERU, NO?

Repito, somos malos. Mientras mas pronto lo entendamos, mejor para todos.

Si somos malos...let's find another sport...

[superfrantheman]

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[Peruvian_6663]

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hay la francis

[elperucho]

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fran no seas......, el voley es especialmente para q lo jueguen los hombres, pero alas mujeres les dio gusto y a los hombres no

[superfrantheman]

hipica

con la talla promedio del peruano, la rompemos con SPEEDY y MULLER