5th Game: ARGENTINA vs. PARAGUAY (r)

[superfrantheman]

Creo que sera el mejor juego de la Copa, al menos en primera fase

Para mi son los dos mejores equipos de la Copa

[efernandez9]

por que bueno?
ya estaran clasificados, los que estan con tarjetas amarillas NO jugaran y cada DT probara el banco para lo que viene.

tienen todo para firmar un empate desde Hoy! eso de jugar los partidos en horas alternas no funciona para la ultima fecha.....desde Hoy argentina PUEDE escoger rival para semis:p

ejemplo: la kosa de partido que nos ofrecieron uru/vene ayer? no tenian ninguna razon para ganar, NINGUNO DE LOS DOS.... y dejar a peru como la loka del paseo que bailara con el mas duro de este Grp.

[AlbaXL]

So my mom just told me that Crespo is injured and won't be playing for the rest of the cup... is this true? Nos van a cojer sin forro!

[efernandez9]

So my mom just told me that Crespo is injured and won't be playing for the rest of the cup... is this true? Nos van a cojer sin forro! SI

ACA ESTA EL DATO:

http://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showthread.php?t=562718


tantas ganas tenia de meterle gol a colombia?!

[bsas]

So my mom just told me that Crespo is injured and won't be playing for the rest of the cup... is this true? Nos van a cojer sin forro!

Relax, it's a blow but we have other options.

[Latin Pride]

This is a tough one, Argentina is best team in the tournament

I dont see Paraguay winning this one, what does suit us is that their weak point seems to be the defense... something Paraguay is very good at taking advantage of, but if we leave Argentina as much space as we left the US, we are gonna get thumped.

Maybe we can sneak a 1-0 or 2-1 win here, but I would be very happy with a draw as even a draw would get us 1st place, gonna be very tough but not impossible.

[rios]

argentina will want a win so we can play peru in quarter final. let paraguayan go make a brick wall infront of brazil/mexico.

we shouldn't be playing the same formation for this match. 4-3-1-2 is too vulnerable to counter attacks when it's pressed onto a hardcore defense.
one example was the 02' world cup game against england.

if argentina wants a win against this kind of turtle formation paraguay plays, i think we're best off with some kind of 4-2-4 variation (http://albicelestesforever.blogspot.com/2007/07/how-to-play-king-of-negative-football.html). historically it's also the most successful formation against negative teams.

or if argentina wants to just rest players and get a draw, then 4-2-3-1 should be a defensive choice. grind out a draw in this kind of situation is so negative though.

[argentine soccer fan]

Resting the players who are fatigued or who are not 100 percent physically, as well as those who have yellow cards, has to be a priority for both teams.

Especially considering the weather in Venezuela, and also the fact that in the second round the teams in this group will be playing against an opponent who will have an extra day of rest.

I think this makes the game unpredictable, because the subs will want to make their case for a starting job. We might see more individualistic play. But assuming both teams take this tact, on paper it should favor Argentina because they have more depth.

[soybostero]

I wonder what line up we'll be using for the upcoming games now that Crespo won't be there.

I honestly don't know enough about Milito to judge him. I wasn't too impressed by his performance vs. Colombia. I understand he scored a goal but that was more luck that it went in. I just see Tevez SOOO hungry to run to the spaces and make something happen.

Maybe this:

---------------- TEVEZ

----------MESSI ----- RIQUELME

--------CAMBIASSO ----- VERON

------------- MASCHERANO

AYALA --- MILITO --- HEINZE --- ZANETTI]

----------------PATO

[argentine soccer fan]

I wonder what line up we'll be using for the upcoming games now that Crespo won't be there.

I honestly don't know enough about Milito to judge him. I wasn't too impressed by his performance vs. Colombia. I understand he scored a goal but that was more luck that it went in. I just see Tevez SOOO hungry to run to the spaces and make something happen.

Maybe this:

---------------- TEVEZ

----------MESSI ----- RIQUELME

--------CAMBIASSO ----- VERON

------------- MASCHERANO

AYALA --- MILITO --- HEINZE --- ZANETTI]

----------------PATO

I doubt it. Look for a lot of subs. If I was Coco I would rest most players. Something like this:

..................Pato
Ibarra....Burdisso...Diaz....Heinze
...........Gago.........Mascherano
.........Aimar..........Riquelme
...........Tevez
......................Milito

I'd leave Heinze because we don't have a natural substitute for him. I'd leave Mascherano and Riquelme, unless they are fatigued, because they are our key players. (Although, maybe that's a reason to take them out. We want them rested, plus they might get a yellow card.)

[rios]

I doubt it. Look for a lot of subs. If I was Coco I would rest most players. Something like this:

..................Pato
Ibarra....Burdisso...Diaz....Heinze
...........Gago.........Mascherano
.........Aimar..........Riquelme
...........Tevez
......................Milito

I'd leave Heinze because we don't have a natural substitute for him. I'd leave Mascherano and Riquelme, unless they are fatigued, because they are our key players. (Although, maybe that's a reason to take them out. We want them rested, plus they might get a yellow card.)

i expect lucho to start. and swap tevez and milito positions.
ayala need rest? he's capitan though. making burdisso organize defense will be big change.

also gago and mascherano should play more diagonal to each other, in order to control more area.

but basically, 4-1-1-2-2 (http://bp3.blogger.com/_r-wrhuVqNwk/RowJuxL6UHI/AAAAAAAAAJM/3Wzk7Tkulj4/s1600-h/ranger.jpg), no fundemental difference from yours.

[Dan-ny-m398]

argentina will want a win so we can play peru in quarter final. let paraguayan go make a brick wall infront of brazil/mexico.

we shouldn't be playing the same formation for this match. 4-3-1-2 is too vulnerable to counter attacks when it's pressed onto a hardcore defense.
one example was the 02' world cup game against england.

if argentina wants a win against this kind of turtle formation paraguay plays, i think we're best off with some kind of 4-2-4 variation (http://albicelestesforever.blogspot.com/2007/07/how-to-play-king-of-negative-football.html). historically it's also the most successful formation against negative teams.

or if argentina wants to just rest players and get a draw, then 4-2-3-1 should be a defensive choice. grind out a draw in this kind of situation is so negative though.

Did you just learn the word NEGATIVE??? or is it that you just like the way it sounds??.

[Dan-ny-m398]

17:40 Paraguay cambiará “medio equipo” para el juego con Argentina el jueves por la última fecha del Grupo C de la Copa América de Venezuela-2007 con miras a preservar a sus principales jugadores para cuartos de final, anunció el técnico de los albirrojos, el argentino Gerardo ’Tata’ Martino. (AFP)


It should be an intersting game, maybe we will see Pipino getting some playing time.

[Gol Por Gloria]

17:40 Paraguay cambiará “medio equipo” para el juego con Argentina el jueves por la última fecha del Grupo C de la Copa América de Venezuela-2007 con miras a preservar a sus principales jugadores para cuartos de final, anunció el técnico de los albirrojos, el argentino Gerardo ’Tata’ Martino. (AFP)


It should be an intersting game, maybe we will see Pipino getting some playing time.

Well I guess that ensures a Mexico - Paraguay QF.

[magia]

this is not a beauty contest, Paraguay plays with an istyle of its own that is more effective than a lot of "pretty teems" and is somebody has a problem with that, well you can watch Miss USA

[Dan-ny-m398]

Well I guess that ensures a Mexico - Paraguay QF.

FUTBOL-México espanta a Argentina y Paraguay, según DT Sánchez
Miércoles 4 de Julio, 2007 10:55 GMT144

PUERTO LA CRUZ, Venezuela (Reuters) - Envalentonado tras la clasificación de México a los cuartos de final de la Copa América, el entrenador azteca, Hugo Sánchez, afirmó que Argentina y Paraguay tienen miedo de la fortaleza futbolística de su selección.

México se aseguró el miércoles el primer lugar del Grupo B de la Copa América tras empatar 0-0 con Chile, que también pasó a la siguiente fase de la competencia en Venezuela.

Con la igualdad en su último encuentro de la fase de grupos, México sumó siete puntos de los nueve en juego, tras ganar a Brasil y Ecuador. El equipo ahora espera el encuentro del jueves entre Argentina y Paraguay para conocer con cuál de los dos equipos se enfrentará el domingo.


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[argentine soccer fan]

U mean having 8 goals in 2 games and 1 agaisnt?? R U sure U are not a spazzo trying to pass as an Argentinian fan?? cause U sure sound like one.

I think he means negative in a strategic sense, not in a derogatory sense. It is no secret that Paraguay's strategy is focused primarily on destroying first rather than creating, and being opportunistic.

It is not a bad connotation, it certainly works very well for Paraguay, so they should be commended for executing that style of play so well.

It works for Paraguay because they have dangerous players who can execute and take advantage of this strategy to its fullest. That is how they scored eight goals in two matches.

[sidspaceman]

Ok everybody needs to calm down and please cut out the personal attacks.

[argentine soccer fan]

FUTBOL-México espanta a Argentina y Paraguay, según DT Sánchez
Miércoles 4 de Julio, 2007 10:55 GMT144

PUERTO LA CRUZ, Venezuela (Reuters) - Envalentonado tras la clasificación de México a los cuartos de final de la Copa América, el entrenador azteca, Hugo Sánchez, afirmó que Argentina y Paraguay tienen miedo de la fortaleza futbolística de su selección.

México se aseguró el miércoles el primer lugar del Grupo B de la Copa América tras empatar 0-0 con Chile, que también pasó a la siguiente fase de la competencia en Venezuela.

Con la igualdad en su último encuentro de la fase de grupos, México sumó siete puntos de los nueve en juego, tras ganar a Brasil y Ecuador. El equipo ahora espera el encuentro del jueves entre Argentina y Paraguay para conocer con cuál de los dos equipos se enfrentará el domingo.


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Sanchez is a riot. I don't think he really believes that, but he hopes his players are naive enough to believe it, or maybe he is grandstanding for the Mexican fans.

Granted, Mexico has played well so far, but I don't think Argentina and Paraguay are too concerned to avoid Mexico. right now the main concern is to rest the players who are fatigued, and move on. As far as Argentina goes, we'll play whoever they put in front of us, we need to beat everybody in order to win the title. I'm sure the Paraguayans feel the same way.

[Dan-ny-m398]

I'm Actually glad Mexico is playing "good", if he bummed this Copa America, he would have gotten fired and he is too funny I love watching him making excuses for his sorry ass team.
As for this game, this should be an interesting one, since there will be subs in both sides and all of them will be trying their best to make an impression, so hopefully we will see a good game tomorrow or if we don't I would still take the points:)