Poor Sheffield United

[joniebee]

Hi there my fellow footy lovers,Who is with me in saying the West Ham Vs Sheffield United affair is a total disgrace.If i was a Sheff Utd fan i would be pulling my hair out after they lost there battle against the disgracefull decision to fine West Ham and not dock ANY points at all,Pathetic.To me the fact that the fine was so astronomically high shows it was a big load of trouble they were in,And although Sheff Utds claim failed they were told that if the same thing came up again there would certainly be a points deduction rather than a poxy fine.Sheff Utd have been robbed and ultimately it makes you wonder why such an injustice was done,Maybe some individuals did very well out of this,If you know what i mean,Maybe the decision maker was a hammer,Who knows?
Think how much money Sheff Utd have lost this season,About 40-50 million is the figure,So it just shows that the fine was pathetic,West Ham chairman "egghead" probably jumped for joy when he realised he would only have to pay 5 milliom out of his 50 million for them staying up,And on top of all this,One of the players,Carlos Tevez was in the end the single biggest factor in the club staying up,Makes my blood boil,And yet again shows how incompetent the so called bosses of football are.

[Chelsea8-0Manu]

Hi there my fellow footy lovers,Who is with me in saying the West Ham Vs Sheffield United affair is a total disgrace.If i was a Sheff Utd fan i would be pulling my hair out after they lost there battle against the disgracefull decision to fine West Ham and not dock ANY points at all,Pathetic.To me the fact that the fine was so astronomically high shows it was a big load of trouble they were in,And although Sheff Utds claim failed they were told that if the same thing came up again there would certainly be a points deduction rather than a poxy fine.Sheff Utd have been robbed and ultimately it makes you wonder why such an injustice was done,Maybe some individuals did very well out of this,If you know what i mean,Maybe the decision maker was a hammer,Who knows?
Think how much money Sheff Utd have lost this season,About 40-50 million is the figure,So it just shows that the fine was pathetic,West Ham chairman "egghead" probably jumped for joy when he realised he would only have to pay 5 milliom out of his 50 million for them staying up,And on top of all this,One of the players,Carlos Tevez was in the end the single biggest factor in the club staying up,Makes my blood boil,And yet again shows how incompetent the so called bosses of football are.

If I was a Sheffield United fan, I would be pulling my hair out at their loss at home to Wigan.

[ATL_Iron]

And although Sheff Utds claim failed they were told that if the same thing came up again there would certainly be a points deduction rather than a poxy fine.

An astonishing statement to be honest, considering they were not there to decide the case of punishment, rather than to review the disciplinary procedure of the first panel.

Also i would like to point out as you are so quick to believe that statement. I am sure if you went into court you would not accept the findings of the Judge if only the Prosecution made it case, I'm sure you would want to defend yourself, like here. Lets not forget West Ham were not their to defend themselves, as the case against them was not being heard.

Which makes that an incredibly stupid statement, from supposed Lawyers

[bsas]

If I was a Sheffield United fan, I would be pulling my hair out at their loss at home to Wigan.

... or if I was a Sheffield United fan, I would be embarrassed that my club went all out with the flag of virtue, while breaking the same rule as WHU (Kabba's clause in the contract not to play against them, which was actually enforced, unlike WHU's).

[bsas]

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Sheffield United have launched an appeal in the High Court after failing in their last bid to get reinstated to the Premier League

[sinner78]

Sheffield got relegated on the field ,not because of some technicality in a transfer deal. If they hadnt collapsed in the 2nd half of the season they would be fine.
They are embarrassing themselves with all these appeals. Why dont they sue the teams who fielded understrength teams in key relegation games??
silly clowns

[ATL_Iron]

Now going to the high court, lets see them get the big 4 banned from europe like in Italy :D

[joniebee]

Well im astonished by that response,Unless you all have bubbles coming out of your backside,And im a Man City fan so i dont have a biased view of this,Its just the injustice,Id feel exactly the same if West Ham went down and Sheff Utd stayed up.
You can come out with all the comments you like but at the end of the day you have to concede that West Ham were guilty of acting in an improper manner and also withholding important information about Tevez and Mascharanos ownership,The way they ended up playing For West Ham,By way of a third party would not be allowed,And this is why a West Ham official diliberately denied the existence of certain documents to EPL chief exec Richard Scudermore.Disgustingly,One of the reasons given for not deducting points was that the people who had done the deal had now left West Ham,Oh so thats okat then is is,Tevez was still there though wasnt he,And he was clearly instrumental in them staying up,It stinks,The whole thing stinks.
Finally,If West Ham were already safe and losing points would have meant nothing,They would have been deducted,I am sure of it,Therefore this clearly shows the lack of backbone in the decision and the loss inflicted on Sheff United is deeply unfair,They should at the very least be compensated for the shoddy treatment they have recieved,Injustice always leaves a bad taste.

[ATL_Iron]

Well im astonished by that response,Unless you all have bubbles coming out of your backside,And im a Man City fan so i dont have a biased view of this,Its just the injustice,Id feel exactly the same if West Ham went down and Sheff Utd stayed up.
You can come out with all the comments you like but at the end of the day you have to concede that West Ham were guilty of acting in an improper manner and also withholding important information about Tevez and Mascharanos ownership,The way they ended up playing For West Ham,By way of a third party would not be allowed,And this is why a West Ham official diliberately denied the existence of certain documents to EPL chief exec Richard Scudermore.Disgustingly,One of the reasons given for not deducting points was that the people who had done the deal had now left West Ham,Oh so thats okat then is is,Tevez was still there though wasnt he,And he was clearly instrumental in them staying up,It stinks,The whole thing stinks.
Finally,If West Ham were already safe and losing points would have meant nothing,They would have been deducted,I am sure of it,Therefore this clearly shows the lack of backbone in the decision and the loss inflicted on Sheff United is deeply unfair,They should at the very least be compensated for the shoddy treatment they have recieved,Injustice always leaves a bad taste.

With respect, you clearly don't actually understand what West Ham did wrong. It is not illegal for a 3rd party to own a player, there is your first mistake. The previous administration at West Ham did deceive, no question. The new administration actually brought the offending document to the attention of the PL. May i recommend you read the documents on the FA site and fully understand the scenario, before rushing to criticize.

[narduch]

The decision not to dock West Ham any points is a shame. It puts the entire 2007-2008 EPL season into disrepute.

What a travesty of justice.

By the way, the excuse that it isn't fair to the fans, or that it happened under a different administration doesn't cut it. There's something called corporate responsibility.

What a shame. I always thought the English were the least corruptible. But I guess I was wrong.

[ATL_Iron]

The decision not to dock West Ham any points is a shame. It puts the entire 2007-2008 EPL season into disrepute.

What a travesty of justice.

By the way, the excuse that it isn't fair to the fans, or that it happened under a different administration doesn't cut it. There's something called corporate responsibility.

What a shame. I always thought the English were the least corruptible. But I guess I was wrong.

Let me ask you, why should they have docked west ham points? Based on what exactly?

[narduch]

Let me ask you, why should they have docked west ham points? Based on what exactly?

Why? Because the judgement stated that they would have docked them points if they handed out the punishment earlier in the season. This basically means that they deserved to have points docked. If they deserved to be punished, the time of the punishment shouldn't matter.

What a lame decision.

The EPL was too quick to protect a big London club over smaller clubs. This makes the EPL look bad.

[ATL_Iron]

Why? Because the judgement stated that they would have docked them points if they handed out the punishment earlier in the season. This basically means that they deserved to have points docked. If they deserved to be punished, the time of the punishment shouldn't matter.

What a lame decision.

The EPL was too quick to protect a big London club over smaller clubs. This makes the EPL look bad.

No it did not, please show me where it said that

[J'can]

I feel bad for Shef U but they only have themselves to blame. WHU won it on the field and ShefU had their destiny in their own hands come the final day.

I will be the first to hold my hand up and say I am not sure of allthe technicalities surrounding this transfer. But do you really want relegation and championships to be decided by administration (match fixing being the exception)?

I think WHU deserved thier spot by playing for it. Shef U is hard done by and I feel the lost revenue should be paid to them that they will lose by being in the championship. Who should pay this? WHU!!:D

[Karloski]

A statement from the arbitration panel read: "The tribunal have found in favour of the FA Premier League on both issues and dismissed the claims of Sheffield United FC and Fulham FC."

The three-man panel, headed by retired High Court judge Sir Philip Otton, did not have the power to change West Ham's punishment but could have ordered a new independent commission to judge the case.

The ruling from the arbitration panel said Sheffield United would not normally have been allowed to dispute another club's punishment but that there were "exceptional circumstances" because of their relegation, which affected their membership of the Premier League.

The tribunal said they had "sympathy" with the Blades, while West Ham had been "deliberately deceitful" and yet remained in the Premier League.

But they said they could not rule that the independent commission's decision had been wrong to fine West Ham in the first place."



Sympathy, thats nice of them.

To be honest, there were no specific rules in place to say that West Ham should have been docked points. So whether its right or wrong morally has no bearing on the final decision. Sheffield Utd should just move on and concentrate on next season in the championship.

[ATL_Iron]

Thats exactly right. I am not defending what the previous administration did, it was completely wrong.

How ever this current administration brought the discrepancy to their attention, and then went to the tribunal with their hands up ready to accept the punishment (what ever it might be) by the rules that they agreed too.

What pisses me off is when people start spouting off saying they should be relegated and docked points etc, without even bothering to find out what they did wrong.

[sinner78]

It wont be long before FIFA starts threatening english football if the daft cvnts keep on going to court.
When Juventus refused to accept their punishment they only backed down when FIFA threatened to kick italy out of the world cup and the teams out of the european games.

Sheffield utd got relegated on the pitch where they were proven to be not good enough.

[taffhammer]

,They should at the very least be compensated for the shoddy treatment they have recieved,Injustice always leaves a bad taste.
i'm surprised a city fan would go to the trouble of starting this post.
i feel sorry for the sheffield fans that have been given false hope, but the players have always been registerd , west ham were guilty of the third party ownership rules,of which no clubs have ever been docked points for that charge.if we had of been docked points we would have accepted the charge and got on with it.why didn't sheffield complain at the time? because they thought they were safe from relegation.
the chairman knew they wouldn't be reinstated , he was just after a pay out.
personally i'd be embarassed by the whole episode if i was a sheffield supporter and be counting the days till scunthorpe at home.

[lanman]

west ham were guilty of the third party ownership rules,of which no clubs have ever been docked points for that charge.

That's because no other Premiership club has been found guilty of the same charge. The original hearing stated that it was an offence for which they would normally consider a points deduction.

[Rob Perks]

Regardless of who is right and wrong, and your opinions on the matter, you've got to admit, when you think of Sheffield Uniteds case - the words "flogging" and "dead horse" come to mind.

I agree they have a case and the premier league screwed this up big time, but they are never going to beat the Premiership. The whole arbitration panel was a farce.

When the Premiership broke away from the football league clubs agreed to abide by its rules, so SU dont have too much of a case.

I also find it amusing the High Court could rule West Ham should be docked points (highly unlikely), and the EPL could just turn round and say - "fine, West Ham, you were docked 1 point".