Football attendances

[psveindhoven]

Has someone got information about football attendances? The only thing I found is the highest attendances for football games for clubs in international competitions last year (like Champions League, Copa Libertadores, UEFA Cup).

This is what I found:

FC Barcelona 98 000 Spain
FC Internazionale Milano 79 000 Italy
Manchester United FC 72 000 England
Real Madrid 71 000 Spain
FC Bayern Munich 65 000 Germany
FC Spartak Moscow 60 000 Russia
Arsenal FC 59 000 England
SL Benfica 58 000 Portugal
Celtic FC 58 000 Scotland
AEK Athens FC 56 000 Greece
AC Milan 51 000 Italy
Rangers FC 50 000 Scotland
Hamburger SV 48 000 Germany
AS Roma 48 000 Italy
Sporting Clube de Portugal 48 000 Portugal
Galatasaray SK 48 000 Turkey
Liverpool FC 46 000 England
FC Schalke 04 45 000 Germany
Paris Saint-Germain FC 43 000 France
Eintracht Frankfurt 43 000 Germany
Fenerbahçe SK 42 000 Turkey
SV Werder Bremen 41 000 Germany
FC Porto 41 000 Portugal
Valencia CF 41 000 Spain
PFC Levski Sofia 40 000 Bulgaria
FC Copenhagen 40 000 Denmark
Chelsea FC 40 000 England
Lille OSC 36 000 France
PFC CSKA Moscow 36 000 Russia
Sevilla FC 36 000 Spain
FC Dynamo Kyiv 36 000 Ukraine
Tottenham Hotspur FC 34 000 England
AFC Ajax 33 000 Netherlands
PSV Eindhoven 33 000 Netherlands
Dinamo Zagreb 32 000 Croatia
West Ham United FC 32 000 England
Olympiacos 31 000 Greece
RC Lens 30 000 France
FC Shakhtar Donetsk 30 000 Ukraine
Newcastle United FC 28 000 England
FC Steaua Bucuresti 27 000 Romania
Heart of Midlothian FC 27 000 Scotland
FC Girondins de Bordeaux 25 000 France
FC Rubin Kazan 25 000 Russia
Trabzonspor 25 000 Turkey
Olympique Lyonnais 24 000 France
AS Nancy 23 000 France
Bayer 04 Leverkusen 23 000 Germany
Panathinaikos FC 23 000 Greece
Feyenoord Rotterdam 23 000 Netherlands
Besiktas JK 23 000 Turkey
Kayserispor 22 000 Turkey
RSC Anderlecht 20 000 Belgium
Olympique de Marseille 20 000 France
RCD Espanyol 20 000 Spain
FC Groningen 19 000 Netherlands
Red Star Belgrade 19 000 Serbia
CA Osasuna 19 000 Spain
FC Chornomorets Odessa 18 000 Ukraine
FC Red Bull Salzburg 17 000 Austria
SK Slavia Praha 17 000 Czech Republic
Blackburn Rovers FC 17 000 England
SC Heerenveen 17 000 Netherlands
AZ Alkmaar 16 000 Netherlands
US Città di Palermo 15 000 Italy
SC Braga 15 000 Portugal
Club Brugge KV 14 000 Belgium
Brøndby IF 14 000 Denmark
Randers FC 14 000 Denmark
Maccabi Haifa FC 14 000 Israel
AC Sparta Praha 13 000 Czech Republic
FC Basel 13 000 Switzerland
PFC CSKA Sofia 12 000 Bulgaria
Hertha BSC Berlin 12 000 Germany
Standard Liège 11 000 Belgium
FC Lokomotiv Moscow 11 000 Russia
FC Sion 11 000 Switzerland
FC Metalurh Zaporizhia 11 000 Ukraine
FK Austria Wien 10 000 Austria
Odense BK 10 000 Denmark
Hapoel Tel Aviv FC 10 000 Israel
Wisla Kraków 10 000 Poland
FK Partizan 10 000 Serbia

Club América 90 000 Mexico
CR Flamengo 57 000 Brazil
CA Boca Juniors 50 000 Argentina
Grêmio 46 000 Brazil
CN Cúcuta Deportivo 42 000 Colombia
Chivas de Guadalajara 40 000 Mexico
SC Internacional 35 000 Brazil
São Paulo FC 33 000 Brazil
CF Pachuca 30 000 Mexico
Defensor Sporting Club 28 000 Uruguay
DC United 26 000 United States
LDU Quito 25 000 Ecuador
Necaxa 21 000 Mexico
Club Bolívar 20 000 Bolivia
Caracas FC 20 000 Venezuela
Santos FC 19 000 Brazil
Cienciano del Cuzco 18 000 Peru
Club Toluca 16 000 Mexico
Paraná Clube 15 000 Brazil
Houston Dynamo 13 000 United States
Club Nacional de Football 13 000 Uruguay
CA Banfield 12 000 Argentina
Colo-Colo 12 000 Chile
CA Vélez Sársfield 10 000 Argentina

Al-Hilal 65 000 Saudi Arabia
Urawa Reds 44 000 Japan
Najaf FC 40 000 Iraq
Al-Karamah 40 000 Syria
Shandong Luneng 30 000 China
Arema Malang 30 000 Indonesia
Sepahan FC 30 000 Iran
Sydney FC 21 000 Australia
Mohun Bagan AC 20 000 India
FK Neftchy Farg'ona 20 000 Uzbekistan
Persik Kediri 15 000 Indonesia
Al-Ittihad Aleppo 15 000 Syria
Seongnam Ilhwa Chunma 13 000 South Korea
Shanghai Shenhua 12 000 China
Kawasaki Frontale 10 000 Japan
FC Pakhtakor Tashkent 10 000 Uzbekistan
Gach Dong Tam Long An 10 000 Vietnam

FAR Rabat 40 000 Morocco
Al-Ahly 35 000 Egypt
Étoile Sportive du Sahel 20 000 Tunisia
Dolphins FC Port Harcourt 12 000 Nigeria

A lot of clubs are missing, especially about African clubs there's lack of information available.

[RichardL]

this site might be a little more worthwhile, for european teams anyway

http://www.european-football-statistics.co.uk/attn.htm

[Wezza]

The Australian attendance figures are not right. The highest regular season crowd from last season was 50,334, Melbourne v Sydney in Melbourne. The league final attracted over 55,000. Melbourne averaged something like 30,000 for the season, Queensland was next with over 16,000 average.

[Doc_Aeppler]

for what its worth, heres the official numbers from this past Bundesliga season:

Borussia Dortmund 72.652
Bayern München 68.465
FC Schalke 04 61.348
Hamburger SV 56.024
Hertha BSC 48.690
Eintracht Frankfurt 47.625
Bor. Mönchengladbach 47.485
VfB Stuttgart 45.888
1. FC Nürnberg 41.555
Werder Bremen 40.894
Hannover 96 38.717
VfL Bochum 24.969
Arminia Bielefeld 23.127
Bayer Leverkusen 22.412
VfL Wolfsburg 22.327
Alemannia Aachen 20.745
1. FSV Mainz 05 20.229
Energie Cottbus 16.070
--> alltogether 39.957

and 2. Bundesliga

1. FC Köln 42.194
TSV 1860 München 35.965
1. FC Kaiserslautern 31.717
Karlsruher SC 24.746
Hansa Rostock 19.429
MSV Duisburg 18.028
FC Augsburg 16.812
SC Freiburg 16.265
Eintracht Braunschweig 15.671
Rot-Weiss Essen 13.620
Erzgebirge Aue 11.626
Kickers Offenbach 10.745
TuS Koblenz 10.271
FC Carl Zeiss Jena 8.699
SpVgg Greuther Fürth 7.909
SC Paderborn 07 6.130
Wacker Burghausen 5.845
SpVgg Unterhaching 4.865
--> alltogether 16.697

www.weltfussball.de

[Wezza]

for what its worth, heres the official numbers from this past Bundesliga season:

Borussia Dortmund 72.652
Bayern München 68.465
FC Schalke 04 61.348
Hamburger SV 56.024
Hertha BSC 48.690
Eintracht Frankfurt 47.625
Bor. Mönchengladbach 47.485
VfB Stuttgart 45.888
1. FC Nürnberg 41.555
Werder Bremen 40.894
Hannover 96 38.717
VfL Bochum 24.969
Arminia Bielefeld 23.127
Bayer Leverkusen 22.412
VfL Wolfsburg 22.327
Alemannia Aachen 20.745
1. FSV Mainz 05 20.229
Energie Cottbus 16.070
--> alltogether 39.957

and 2. Bundesliga

1. FC Köln 42.194
TSV 1860 München 35.965
1. FC Kaiserslautern 31.717
Karlsruher SC 24.746
Hansa Rostock 19.429
MSV Duisburg 18.028
FC Augsburg 16.812
SC Freiburg 16.265
Eintracht Braunschweig 15.671
Rot-Weiss Essen 13.620
Erzgebirge Aue 11.626
Kickers Offenbach 10.745
TuS Koblenz 10.271
FC Carl Zeiss Jena 8.699
SpVgg Greuther Fürth 7.909
SC Paderborn 07 6.130
Wacker Burghausen 5.845
SpVgg Unterhaching 4.865
--> alltogether 16.697

www.weltfussball.de

That's impressive!

BTW, the Australian A-League had an average attendance of 14,042 in it's second season. It sits around 11th in the world for attendance figures. I think it'll grow to around 16,000 this season.

[Doc_Aeppler]

Heres a great site that features almost all european attendance stats
http://www.european-football-statistics.co.uk/attn.htm

Here are last years averages of the european top-leagues:

Germany 39.975
England 34.363
Spain 28.838
France 21.947
Italy 18.473
England 2 18.221
Netherlands 18.078
Germany 2 16.698
Scotland 16.194
Turkey 14.049
Russia 11.890
Portugal 10.636
Belgium 10.533

[Wezza]

Some of those European leagues have disappointing attendance figures. Especially France, Italy & Portugal, considering the strength of their national teams.

[|--LdC--|]

Some of those European leagues have disappointing attendance figures. Especially France, Italy & Portugal, considering the strength of their national teams.
You have to consider that Portugal only has 10 million ppl, with something like 90 % of the population supporting the big 3... plus the ridiculous high ticket prices and 4/5 games a week live in Sportv (paytv 20 euros month) its cheaper to sign the channel and see 5 games a week of our league plus several games of the premiership, la liga and serie A, than to watch a good game if you aren´t a club member of your team.

[spoonman]

:D .

[sidis]

personally i think portugal and spain would be merge their leagues (and add their UCL spots).

obviously this will never happen.

[Wezza]

You have to consider that Portugal only has 10 million ppl, with something like 90 % of the population supporting the big 3... plus the ridiculous high ticket prices and 4/5 games a week live in Sportv (paytv 20 euros month) its cheaper to sign the channel and see 5 games a week of our league plus several games of the premiership, la liga and serie A, than to watch a good game if you aren´t a club member of your team.
Fair enough. How on earth do the smaller clubs survive then?

[|--LdC--|]

Fair enough. How on earth do the smaller clubs survive then?
From those 90% a considerable % support another team or the so called local team, so they end up supporting the local team aswell, plus tv money who make up most of the budget and selling some players, right know Portugal is probably the leading european exporter of football players, there are portugal players everywhere in europe, for instance a Romanian team Cluj third in the league last season has something like 11 portuguese players, plus there are several known and unknown in Spain, France, England, Italy, Germany, Scotland, Russia, Romania, Greece, Cyprus etc etc

[pippomo]

Some of those European leagues have disappointing attendance figures. Especially France, Italy & Portugal, considering the strength of their national teams.

Italy average attendances:
74-75 31257
75-76 32177
76-77 32316
77-78 34154
78-79 32857
79-80 30983
80-81 27646
81-82 31941
82-83 33019
83-84 36552
84-85 38871
85-86 35872
86-87 33087
87-88 30621
88.89 29454
89-90 27162
90-91 33255
91-92 34205
92-93 32607
93-94 29883
94-95 29154
95-96 29447
96-97 29481
97-98 31161
98-99 30840
99-00 29908
00-01 29441
01-02 25992
02-03 25474
03-04 25675
04-05 26098
05-06 22476
06-07 19711

There are many reasons for the very poor attendances in the last year..
1) Calcio has no credibility
2) Tickets have high prices
3) Total TV coverage of the games
4) Many important clubs were in lower division
5) There's no joy fopr fans of smaller clubs in going to see matches wihtout any chance of winning cause of 1) the great difference in economic capacity wich separates them from big clubs and 2) the obvious bribing of referees... :D

BTW: next year attendances figures should really be some 5000-6000 higher than this year cause of the return of Napoli, Juventus and Genoa to serie A.

[sinner78]

There are many reasons for the very poor attendances in the last year..
1) Calcio has no credibility
2) Tickets have high prices
3) Total TV coverage of the games
4) Many important clubs were in lower division
5) There's no joy fopr fans of smaller clubs in going to see matches wihtout any chance of winning cause of 1) the great difference in economic capacity wich separates them from big clubs and 2) the obvious bribing of referees... :D

BTW: next year attendances figures should really be some 5000-6000 higher than this year cause of the return of Napoli, Juventus and Genoa to serie A.


and
1)fan violence
2)outdated stadiums

[ghayim]

wow! thats a lof of people

[pippomo]

and
1)fan violence
2)outdated stadiums

Neither is a real factor. Stadia were outdated also when the averge attendance was >30.000. And violence is much less than it was during the 70's-80's when there were fighting inside the stadia, in the terraces.
Another factor which i forgot is the new law for buying tickets. For away matches you can't buy tickets the day of the match, you have to purchase them at least the day before.
Then the spreading of the matches over 4 days, sometimes also at working hours, didn't help.

[aussie_ascoli]

There are many reasons for the very poor attendances in the last year..
1) Calcio has no credibility
2) Tickets have high prices
3) Total TV coverage of the games
4) Many important clubs were in lower division
5) There's no joy fopr fans of smaller clubs in going to see matches wihtout any chance of winning cause of 1) the great difference in economic capacity wich separates them from big clubs and 2) the obvious bribing of referees... :D

BTW: next year attendances figures should really be some 5000-6000 higher than this year cause of the return of Napoli, Juventus and Genoa to serie A.

This is the key, as more bigger clubs will go to the smaller clubs, and sell out more games. Then it would be nice to have the traditional small clubs like Ascoli (totally unbias) instead of say Siena, Empoli, Catania and Livorno, where they have a history against big clubs, attracting people to the games.

Hopefully Serie B, keeps the Bologna's, Ascoli's, Bari's, Vicenza's, Modena's, Brescia's and Triestina's - battling for the top spots, so attendances won't drop if these teams make it Serie A, because of their traditional histories in Serie A.

Although teams like Chievo, Treviso, Siena, etc. are all a breath of fresh air, they weren't part of the traditional glory days of italian football, and also are light on supporters (which could be blamed on the current climate (pricing, pay-tv, etc)), but are not that good for attracting crowds against the big clubs when playing away.