View Full Version : The Liverpool team which would win the league (circa man utd team of 90's)
tuseef
07 Aug 2002, 03:14 PM
The LFC team to win the league
Think about it in terms of manure's typical late 90s team and how we can match up player for player, given we play exactly the same tactics:
....................................Dudek/Scmeichel
Babbel/Neville.....Hyppia/Stam........Henchoz/Silvestre........Riise/Neville
Gerard/Becks..........Hamann/Keane......Cheyrou/Scholes.......Diouf/Giggs
.......................Owen/Van Nistelrooy...... Heskey/Cole
Baros/Solksjaer
Murphy/Butt
look at that team? can you honestly say that man utd's team is vastly better????
Think about it! If we only played positively, we can murder teams in a 4-4-2 played to a carbon copy of 90s manure. i don't like to accord them too much but if we want to dominate the next decade, sad to say, we'll have to learn something from them. now, we have the kind of team that can match what they had - man for man. in some areas, we're even better (riise, in particular).
Motterman
07 Aug 2002, 03:16 PM
I think you've lost the plot.
usain2010
07 Aug 2002, 03:19 PM
too bad man utd actually won a few trophies
tuseef
07 Aug 2002, 03:22 PM
Originally posted by Motterman
I think you've lost the plot.
moi?
why do you say that?
if your gonna criticise me..at least back it up with facts/reasons
it will make you look much more commendable
tuseef
07 Aug 2002, 03:25 PM
Originally posted by usain2010
too bad man utd actually won a few trophies
well...according to "statistics" liverpool are the most successful club of this millenium so far with 5 trophies ;)
and do i even need to mention the 4 european cups?
na didnt think so :D
SoFla Metro
07 Aug 2002, 03:27 PM
Originally posted by tuseef
well...according to "statistics" liverpool are the most successful club of this millenium so far with 5 trophies Winning the Poor Man's Treble didn't hurt.
Motterman
07 Aug 2002, 03:29 PM
Originally posted by tuseef
moi?
why do you say that?
if your gonna criticise me..at least back it up with facts/reasons
Here are a few facts/reasons:
Schmeichel is better than Dudek
Becks is better than Gerrard
Keane is three times the player of Hamann
Scholes is world class.
Giggs is world class.
RVN versus Owen - wash
Cole versus Heskey - Cole/Yorke/Solksjaer are all better than Heskey
tuseef
07 Aug 2002, 03:29 PM
just for those dim wits out there i will clarify my original post ;)
i wasnt suggesting liverpool buy schemichal, keane,giggs, beckham etc to win the league
i was merely comparing the man utd team of the late 90's (of the treble era) with liverpools team of 2002
and seeing how they match up (thats correct...the liverpool team is on the left hand of the equation and the man utd team on the right hand side)
get it now?
tuseef
07 Aug 2002, 03:35 PM
Originally posted by Motterman
Here are a few facts/reasons:
Schmeichel is better than Dudek
know that for a fact do you?
Becks is better than Gerrard
---dont make me laugh
Keane is three times the player of Hamann
---agreed..but not 3 times as good surely
Scholes is world class.
---did i say he wasnt? also Cheyrou is much like Ballack (do u think ballack is crap)
Giggs is world class.
---see above..and u saying Diouf isnt?
RVN versus Owen - wash
---VanKneeStillSore is nowhere near as good as Owen..do i need to remind you Ruud didnt score from further than 9 yards out all season?
Cole versus Heskey - Cole/Yorke/Solksjaer are all better than Heskey
---yes they are...but we are talking about a TEAM here..not just 11 individuals
also if your team is soo much better than ours..how come we finished ahead of you?
[insert lame-ass manure excuse here]
Matt Clark
07 Aug 2002, 03:36 PM
Bit of a strange excercise, innit? I mean, quite apart from the fact that, far from having to learn from United, we just have to remember to do what we have always done best. United, in the words of their manager himself, just started doing what Liverpool do, at a time when Liverpool themselves forgot how to.
Beyond that, it is not comparative personell, or indeed similar tactics that win titles. That's too simplistic. The only vaguely valid conclusion you could draw from that is that we still have some work to do in the midfield department. Because, without a doubt,
Beckham - Keane - Scholes - Giggs
was the strongest midfield any English side has fielded since Digger, Jan and Whelan bestrode the turf.
SoFla Metro
07 Aug 2002, 03:38 PM
Originally posted by tuseef
look at that team? can you honestly say that man utd's team is vastly better????
Yes
tuseef
07 Aug 2002, 03:42 PM
Originally posted by SoFla Metro
Yes
then take off your rose tinted specs
;)
tuseef
07 Aug 2002, 03:47 PM
Originally posted by Matt Clark
Beyond that, it is not comparative personell, or indeed similar tactics that win titles. That's too simplistic. The only vaguely valid conclusion you could draw from that is that we still have some work to do in the midfield department. Because, without a doubt
the point i was trying to make was that we have the players and the ability to really hurt teams if GH chose to do so (rather than defend defend defend all the time)
i was merely using manures treble winning team as an example...i thought by comparing player like for like...it would give some LFC fans real hope that "yes...this teams good enough to win the league!"
if i was giving the impression that "lets copy manure" then i apologise (must work on my wording ;) )
face it....12 years is too long for the tradition of our great club
tuseef
07 Aug 2002, 03:53 PM
Originally posted by SoFla Metro
Winning the Poor Man's Treble didn't hurt.
you spent £50m last season and won fcuk all
i think Slur Alex Ferguscum would swap our "poor mans treble" for that!
;)
Motterman
07 Aug 2002, 03:55 PM
Originally posted by tuseef
also if your team is soo much better than ours..how come we finished ahead of you?
We were too far behind by the time we found our form right before Christmas. Besides, last year doesn't matter any more does it?
How long were you going to cling to the "at least we finished ahead of United" feelings anyways?
You still haven't won the Premiership, have ya.
Motterman
07 Aug 2002, 03:56 PM
Originally posted by tuseef
you spent £50m last season and won fcuk all
i think Slur Alex Ferguscum would swap our "poor mans treble" for that!
;)
YSB
DEREK WHITE
07 Aug 2002, 03:59 PM
The problem with comparing two clubs or for that matter two sides is that you must get all the facts right first.To start Van Nistlelrooy has not played on a Utd team that has won anything .Also you fall into the same trap as a vast majority of Liverpool fans and in deed the management by playing Gerrard on the right he is a central midfielder it is his best position.Hamann is a donkey a carthorse,a poor mans Vieira or for that matter Keane.Manchester United do not have the greatest defence but they have midfielders who work very hard and strikers who can kill you with pace and finishing power.The only way that you will get killed by Hesky is if you die from laughing at him.The only team to have successfully challenged Utd has been Arsenal without spending vast sums of money and that is how it will continue.Finally who are Cheyrou and Diouf anyone can play well in the sun for a few weeks but will they cut it on the big stage I somehow doubt it.If you don't believe me about fair weather players ask any Utd fan about Veron.
Motterman
07 Aug 2002, 04:02 PM
Originally posted by DEREK WHITE
If you don't believe me about fair weather players ask any Utd fan about Veron.
I'd be the first to admit that Veron is right to call his first season with us a disaster. Our first trophyless season since the year before our Treble.
However, I hope he has his head on straight and I FULLY expect him to be a major force in the league this year.
tuseef
07 Aug 2002, 04:03 PM
Originally posted by Motterman
We were too far behind by the time we found our form right before Christmas. Besides, last year doesn't matter any more does it?
How long were you going to cling to the "at least we finished ahead of United" feelings anyways?
You still haven't won the Premiership, have ya.
yeah yeah i have heard it all before mate...premiership my @rse...winning the league is winning the league whether its called the division 1 championship, the premiership or the mcdonalds world series. i couldnt care less....we've won it 18 times..u still playing catch up
according to manure fans...football was invented in 1993 - when man utd started winning everything
i got news for you...it didnt
*shock* *horror* how will you get through the days??!!!
lmfao @ this manc
tuseef
07 Aug 2002, 04:06 PM
Originally posted by Motterman
YSB
oooh
big words from the manc
hit a nerve did i?
;) dont worry im sure you will have the last laugh at the end of the coming season
you will be able to tell me you spent £80m in 2 years AND still won nothing!
i'll be gutted... "why couldnt liverpool do that?" :D