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tuseef
07 Aug 2002, 04:41 PM
Originally posted by Motterman


Ahhh.... so that's your evil twin posting instead, aye.

Well, I think my work here is done for now. See you in 10 days.

looking forward to it ;)

ok...so according to your theory that i should have known your fav player was Bestie, can you care to tell me who my favourite Liverpool player is? since you "know" me so well

WHAT!!! you cant? how dare you! ;)

tuseef
07 Aug 2002, 04:43 PM
Originally posted by SoFla Metro
Until they win the league again (aka many many years)

erm..your a bit slow mate

no point trying to rekindle a discussion that happened 10 minutes ago..cos its done and dusted

post faster in future ok ;)

Motterman
07 Aug 2002, 04:45 PM
Originally posted by tuseef


looking forward to it ;)

ok...so according to your theory that i should have known your fav player was Bestie, can you care to tell me who my favourite Liverpool player is? since you "know" me so well

WHAT!!! you cant? how dare you! ;)

Didn't see that you only had 28 posts. I've posted subjects about George Best in this England:Premiership "room" many times, just in the past week or so.

I'd say your favorite player is Owen. I like him when he plays in England white.

SoFla Metro
07 Aug 2002, 04:47 PM
Originally posted by tuseef


im astounded you actually think VanKneeStillSore is better than Owen, i really am
And I'm astounded that you think Liverpool's midfield is better than United's.

And as far as reading comprehension goes, I never never claimed that RVN was any better than Hamstring Boy. I think it's a push.

tuseef
07 Aug 2002, 04:47 PM
Originally posted by SoFla Metro
Based on the quality of your writing, I'm guessing Liverpool haven't actually won the league in your lifetime

sorry, i didnt realise this was an online english language class

i will try to be more grammatically correct in future

ok? ;)

but then again, you being American would probably change half my words to American ones :D

tuseef
07 Aug 2002, 04:49 PM
Originally posted by SoFla Metro
you better hope so since he hurts himself getting out of bed

didnt Barthez "accidently" drive into Liverpool rather than Manchester when he came for his medical??

;)

Motterman
07 Aug 2002, 04:49 PM
Originally posted by tuseef

im astounded you actually think VanKneeStillSore is better than Owen, i really am

My Chelsea friend has a better one:

Van MissAllDay

Too bad that one won't stick though, as he scores too many goals.

tuseef
07 Aug 2002, 04:51 PM
Originally posted by Motterman


Didn't see that you only had 28 posts. I've posted subjects about George Best in this England:Premiership "room" many times, just in the past week or so.

I'd say your favorite player is Owen. I like him when he plays in England white.

easy mate!!!

i have only been registered for a few hours

gimme a chance eh? ;)

i will try to read some old posts when i have time

btw my favourite Liverpool players are John Barnes and Kenny Dalglish

from the current side..i would say Gerrard, Owen, Hyypia and Riise

tuseef
07 Aug 2002, 04:54 PM
Originally posted by SoFla Metro

And I'm astounded that you think Liverpool's midfield is better than United's.

And as far as reading comprehension goes, I never never claimed that RVN was any better than Hamstring Boy. I think it's a push.

i dont think LFC's midfield is better than Manures

manures midfield of becks,scholes, giggs and keane is the best in the WORLD (closely followed by Bayern and Real)

i do think that if we do get a midfield which is 80% as good as urs..we could win the league becos of our superior defensive record

tuseef
07 Aug 2002, 04:56 PM
Originally posted by Motterman


My Chelsea friend has a better one:

Van MissAllDay

Too bad that one won't stick though, as he scores too many goals.

my ones better

why?..........cos its true ;)

SoFla Metro
07 Aug 2002, 05:35 PM
Originally posted by tuseef


didnt Barthez "accidently" drive into Liverpool rather than Manchester when he came for his medical??

;) Not sure what that has to do with Gerrard, who's doing a pretty good job of making Darren Anderton look sturdy.

Clan
07 Aug 2002, 05:49 PM
Um...change of style and attitude is needed for the scouse.
The "sit back and counter" style is not what has won so many titles for Manure.Sure it works and can effectively make a decent team look great by geting the result that is needed.

This is typified in your game last season at the riverside.Totally against the run of play you came away with a 2-1 (if i remember the score correct) win.Great tactics and quite a bit of luck involved.

The problem is that with these type of tactics you won't always get that win.
Manure simply steamrolled tru teams in the 90's, scoring massive amounts of goals as they were urged forward by Ferguson.

Now if the scouse were to play like that who knows...................oh and please, please don't tell me you consider Heskey a quality "striker" ?

tuseef
07 Aug 2002, 06:23 PM
Originally posted by SoFla Metro
Not sure what that has to do with Gerrard, who's doing a pretty good job of making Darren Anderton look sturdy.

well the connections are obvious to see

one makes an idiot of himself by injuring himself whilst turning in bed, and the other by turning in the M62 ;)

tuseef
07 Aug 2002, 06:34 PM
Originally posted by Clanblue
Um...change of style and attitude is needed for the scouse.
The "sit back and counter" style is not what has won so many titles for Manure.Sure it works and can effectively make a decent team look great by geting the result that is needed.

This is typified in your game last season at the riverside.Totally against the run of play you came away with a 2-1 (if i remember the score correct) win.Great tactics and quite a bit of luck involved.

The problem is that with these type of tactics you won't always get that win.
Manure simply steamrolled tru teams in the 90's, scoring massive amounts of goals as they were urged forward by Ferguson.

Now if the scouse were to play like that who knows...................oh and please, please don't tell me you consider Heskey a quality "striker" ?

ref: middlesborough game last season where we won 2-1

if you go back two seasons in time... we lost at the riverside 1-0...and in the two games before that loss we had beaten man utd 1-0 at old toilet and arsenal 4-0 at Anfield.

We played quite attacking in that loss to boro as we had done against arsenal and man utd....but that was so typical of LFC - beat the hard teams and lose to the easy ones

therefore i take great heart from that fact that we beat them last season 2-1...even though we adopted the counter-attacking policy becos it bought us good results

obviously i would prefer to play better football...but if boring football brings us the league, then i will be happy

another thing u forget is that we finished with 80 points last season...and it recent seasons it would have been enuff to win the league...we lost the title to, quite frankly (dont get angry now will ya ;) ) to a SUPERB Arsenal side last season

yes i know heskey is rubbish..along with smicer,berger,murphy and many others ;)

Clan
07 Aug 2002, 06:58 PM
therefore i take great heart from that fact that we beat them last season 2-1...even though we adopted the counter-attacking policy becos it bought us good results

Can't say i blame you for that one as i know what you mean.I for one will take a win over the Addicks this season any way we can get it.Doubled us the last two seasons and kept us out of Champions League footie both times.

However, nice as these little "get back" wins are they just don't seem to amount up to enough to win the title over the course of the season.
Chelsea have been playing a similar type of football this past season and have suffered the same results ie. good wins against the top teams and loss of points against the lower ones.Often by one goal.if we had attacked from the outset, well, who knows.

In all of the scouse losses last season(apart from the one at Stamford Bridge :D) how many were by a single goal?and in how many of those games did they play "don't lose football"

Anyways, like i said, Manure won it by simply overruning the opposition.

The points thing is also a bit of a myth.Manure had the title sewn up in lot of previous seasons and played second and third string players at the run in.Draws and some loses took off of possible points.

Matt Clark
08 Aug 2002, 04:07 AM
Anyways, like i said, Manure won it by simply overruning the opposition.

That is true of maybe three of their seven title-winning campaigns. Those being the most recent. As I said in a previous post, the stated aim, courtesy of Demento himself, was to "be better at being Liverpool than they are". Now, anyone who knows owt about football pre-1993 will remember exactly what that means. Tight at the back, quick through midfield, lethal up front. Score early, kill the game.

That was the bedrock of more than a few Liverpool titles. It was also the foundation of some of the great teams in English football (for solidity breeds authority breeds confidence and flair), including the best of the modern era, the 1988 Liverpool side.

That was the MO of every United team up to and including the one that lost the league at Old Trafford in 1998. Unless you consider a team consisting of Pallister, Bruce, Parker and Irwin at the back and Brian McClair up front as a "steamroller". Bloody Hell, a team that fielded Ralph Milne doesn't deserve comparison to a flower press, let alone a 15-ton asphalt flattening machine.

The comparisons between the mid-90's United team and this current Liverpool one are valid, in so much as both were developing units, laced with potent attacking material, definite title candidates, but not always capable of playing with consistent authority. They learnt to produce when it matters with an entirely comparable quality of personnel. If we can rediscover the art of doing that self-same thing, then who knows? This might be the year. Might not, equally.

Miguel88
08 Aug 2002, 02:39 PM
To put it simply, Liverpool didn't win the Premiership either, did it? Manchester had a few injuries, so we actually have an excuse.....Let's hear all the sorry excuses from the Liverpool fans....and by the way, with Rio in, Manchester is going to tear it up in the Premiership!!!Just a little info...

Father Ted
08 Aug 2002, 03:10 PM
Originally posted by tuseef


you spent £50m last season and won fcuk all

i think Slur Alex Ferguscum would swap our "poor mans treble" for that!

;)

hmmm, I remember that Liverpool won the same amount of trophies as ManUtd did last year: 0



The "treble" that Liverpool won in 2000-2001 was the FA Cup, the UEFA Cup and the ahemm Worthington Cup.

prk166
08 Aug 2002, 03:14 PM
Originally posted by Motterman
I think you've lost the plot.

Exactly and on several levels. Comparing Owen and Van for example. Talking about Van as being with the ManU of the 90s is another. The worst offence is the implication that if you get the same type of players (which is NOT the case with Liverpool) that it will somehow magically equal the same on field successes.

prk166
08 Aug 2002, 03:15 PM
The comparisons between the mid-90's United team and this current Liverpool one are valid, in so much as both were developing units, laced with potent attacking material, definite title candidates, but not always capable of playing with consistent authority. They learnt to produce when it matters with an entirely comparable quality of personnel. If we can rediscover the art of doing that self-same thing, then who knows? This might be the year. Might not, equally.

Very well said!