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caheathy
26 Jun 2007, 12:28 PM
i am english and i have watched beckham for many years because i am a big united fan nd followed madrid to watch beckham and i think he will be wasting what ever career he had left by moving to l.a galaxy because they are in a league people see as a retirement league and i think beckham has alot more years left in him as a top player and shouldn't waste it in a little league like the mls.

EdsonArantes
26 Jun 2007, 12:33 PM
thanks for your insight.

Teso Dos Bichos
26 Jun 2007, 12:37 PM
i am english and i have watched beckham for many years because i am a big united fan nd followed madrid to watch beckham and i think he will be wasting what ever career he had left by moving to l.a galaxy because they are in a league people see as a retirement league and i think beckham has alot more years left in him as a top player and shouldn't waste it in a little league like the mls.

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26 Jun 2007, 12:53 PM
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roykeanes_safc
26 Jun 2007, 01:00 PM
I am also english but of a different opinion. Beckham was unwanted at madrid in january and was offered a club with LA. Milan were also in for Beckham but

a) Hes not the brightest to learn italian, it took 3 years for basic spanish
b) Hes a family man, he didnt want to uproot his family in another different culture
c) Hes proved he is a world class player
d) The money offered is amazing

Madrid suddenly surge up the league from the old van nistelrooy beckham partnership and suddenly want to keep him. Sorry madrid but too little too late. He would only return to england with United so where else. I think the reason Beckham gives to raise the profile of the US game is a little bit of bull, i think its more to do with a pushy wife and to raise his profile in the US. However Becks is a model pro and will be head and shoulders above anyone in that league, the best passer of the ball in world football.

Excape Goat
26 Jun 2007, 01:16 PM
His move is nothing about soccer. He wants Hollywood. Period. He has no other place left in Europe for him after Real Madrid and MU. People knew it four years ago when he joined Real Madrid that the US or I should say "Hollywood"(not LA) is his next destination.

Samarkand
27 Jun 2007, 01:12 AM
i am english and i have watched beckham for many years because i am a big united fan nd followed madrid to watch beckham and i think he will be wasting what ever career he had left by moving to l.a galaxy because they are in a league people see as a retirement league and i think beckham has alot more years left in him as a top player and shouldn't waste it in a little league like the mls.Your ideas interest me and I would like to subscribe to your newsletter.

caheathy
27 Jun 2007, 07:14 AM
if beckham didn't want to change cultures why didn't he stay at madrid then? and i don't know why victoria wants to go to hollywood because she has no talent the only thing that will be famous is beckham and he was a massive star at madrid. and the point about being a great passer, his crosses will go to waste because there is no quality to finish. finally if beckham ever wanted to be remembered as a football player hes ruined it now because players who go to the mls are forgotten.

roykeanes_safc
27 Jun 2007, 07:27 AM
if beckham didn't want to change cultures why didn't he stay at madrid then? and i don't know why victoria wants to go to hollywood because she has no talent the only thing that will be famous is beckham and he was a massive star at madrid. and the point about being a great passer, his crosses will go to waste because there is no quality to finish. finally if beckham ever wanted to be remembered as a football player hes ruined it now because players who go to the mls are forgotten.

As the American and English cultures are very similar so its not exactly going to be hard for them to fit it in. We all know Victoria has no talent. You dont exactly have to be a great player to score from his crosses as a distant touch on the ball and its a goal, however you may have a point with the 30 yard plus throughballs as unless LA sign a decent veteran up front a huge part of his game will go wasted

EdsonArantes
27 Jun 2007, 07:36 AM
^They have been making transfer moves left and right, to give Becks some support. They just signed Carlos Pavon, Honduran international who was the leading scorer in the Concacaf gold cup (scored four goals in group stage game against Cuba), played in Serie A and Mexican Primera. He's not as strong as in his serie A days, but is a vet who will be able to connect with his crosses.

dor02
27 Jun 2007, 07:55 AM
He's the most overrated player ever. His move to LA is definitely a marketing move and I wouldn't play that much money for Pele and Maradona.

roykeanes_safc
27 Jun 2007, 07:56 AM
He's the most overrated player ever. His move to LA is definitely a marketing move and I wouldn't play that much money for Pele and Maradona.

Totally agree with you, stupid amount of money and is overated but you cant blame Beckham for the media.

Leedsunited
27 Jun 2007, 08:06 AM
if beckham didn't want to change cultures why didn't he stay at madrid then? and i don't know why victoria wants to go to hollywood because she has no talent the only thing that will be famous is beckham and he was a massive star at madrid. and the point about being a great passer, his crosses will go to waste because there is no quality to finish. finally if beckham ever wanted to be remembered as a football player hes ruined it now because players who go to the mls are forgotten.

No quality? Do me the honour of actually watching an MLS game, and while you are patiently waiting for 5am Monday morning (Channel Five) think about the EPL players who came from the US, then consider your reasons for making this post. Is it jealously that we are losing our best player to the only league willing to offer him that kind of money? Or is it just argumentative? Funnily enough, people in the US apparently speak English, shop in supermarkets, hell they even have McDonalds there, so I trust the culture shock will be be minimal. As for players been forgotten, I'm sure we struggle to remember who Juan Pablo Angel, Claudio Reyna, Abel Xavier, were who were all offered the chance to stay in the Premiership.
Lastly, as I am British, and, surprisingly enough, a fan of MLS, its is the repeated flogging of this dead horse that is making it so difficult for those of us who come on here to express and debate genuine opinions, to do so without being thought of as trolling. Rant over. By all means express the view that Beckham has made a mistake, the reasons you think he is going to LA but don't insult MLS as and I've written sh*tloads on this subject already, considering the age of the MLS, its growth is steady and it is attracting new fans like me, largely because it is fair, you can't always predict the winner, the fans are passionate about their teams to a similar level as in the UK and there is consistent improvement in skill levels as evidenced by the success of the US Nats and US players abroad.
Please show that you have watched a game before commenting on the standard, and for Beckhams reasons I agree broadly with safc's first post, who incidentally has been disagreed with on here, but, as he came in the right spirit, his views are respected.:rolleyes:

EdsonArantes
27 Jun 2007, 09:53 AM
^rep to you Leeds. very fair and sensible post.

caheathy
27 Jun 2007, 03:25 PM
im sorry but beckham is not englands best player. look at gerrard, rooney miles better than beckham at the moment u have seriously overrated beckham i just thing hes too good to finish his career now by goin into the mls nd i think it has ruined his chances of being an england player. and as for the players you mentioned they are players that didnt really do anything in the prem. Angel was not a brilliant goal scorer like he seems to be in the mls and xavier was not a defender that people would refer to as one of the great defenders of the prem. nd about the cultures he would have to adjust to a new culture of football because spanish football to soccer will be a big change after 4 years

greggo90
27 Jun 2007, 04:02 PM
I agree that Beckham's move to LA is a good move as the interest from young children will increase, causing the MLS to become a higher profile league. The problem is that as there are more professional players registered in America than in England that the Americans will become a super-international team and dominate every World Cup.
Beckham's transfer to LA Galaxy will have a good effect in about 10 years with the MLS bbecoming the major league in the world.:eek:

Leedsunited
28 Jun 2007, 03:08 AM
im sorry but beckham is not englands best player. look at gerrard, rooney miles better than beckham at the moment u have seriously overrated beckham i just thing hes too good to finish his career now by goin into the mls nd i think it has ruined his chances of being an england player. and as for the players you mentioned they are players that didnt really do anything in the prem. Angel was not a brilliant goal scorer like he seems to be in the mls and xavier was not a defender that people would refer to as one of the great defenders of the prem. nd about the cultures he would have to adjust to a new culture of football because spanish football to soccer will be a big change after 4 years

Angel scored 55 goals in 188 appearances for Villa. In 2003 he scored 16 goals. Since 04 Villa have struggled and after his injury he came back to find Carew, Young and Agbonlahor in his position. Xavier was offered a new contract at Boro and Stuart Pearce not only offered Reyna a new contract but called his loss to NYRB 'enormous'. No you wouldn't refer to them as the greatest, but they had a couple more years in them. Beckham could only sign the contracts on the table, LA made him feel wanted, offered him a lot of money, and playing at a 'lower' level hasn't done much wrong for him in the past. And the fact that he's Englands best player or not is irrelevant as the last two games he has been far and away the best player. Secondly he is by far the best right sided midfielder and soon, oh so very soon he will be playing for Galaxy. Thank all the tabloids etc who said he was sh*t, who followed his kids to school, thank the clubs who could have signed him, thank Real for treating him like sh*t. How do the sour grapes taste now?

roykeanes_safc
28 Jun 2007, 06:45 AM
I agree that Beckham's move to LA is a good move as the interest from young children will increase, causing the MLS to become a higher profile league. The problem is that as there are more professional players registered in America than in England that the Americans will become a super-international team and dominate every World Cup.
Beckham's transfer to LA Galaxy will have a good effect in about 10 years with the MLS bbecoming the major league in the world.:eek:

The thing about this debate is that it brings two ugly sides out in each party:

The english/european side - Suggest the MLS is the equivalent of Sunday League Football and the arrogance of that Beckham is somehow wasting the best years of his career at a minor league (hes 32) and England need him (No we dont, hes a short term fix, give him a place in the squad but use him sparingly)

The US side - That European leagues are not much better than the MLS, the belief that it will instantly be the top league in the future and the arrogance that the US national team will win every world cup when they are good.

laolafever
03 Jul 2007, 10:53 AM
I think he is doin it for the money. victoria is the man in this relationship i think.

tommuster
06 Jul 2007, 04:03 AM
He will see that it was a mistake to play there and come back to europe i think. I think he has so much potential and i think he will be bored to play there.