Miami and Tampa Bay websites

[BulaJacket]

Does anyone have web site addresses for Miami and Tampa?
fan sites?
media sites?
history sites?
basically anything....thanks

[quinella box]

www.mutinyfans.com BAT FAN site - We're dormant and some of the images are gone, but some of the stories remain for now. I may update it later.

The official site of the Mutiny was at www.tampabaymutiny.com , but that has been pulled alltogether. I expect the owner of that domain may post his photos at a later date, but I have not talked to him in some time.

[chichi]

I don't know why the rest of the fellas didn't put this up yet but here is the one for South Florida:

http://www.soflastrikers.com/

There are a whole bunch of links on this one but you can find the forums if you click over the top left hand corner where it says "South Florida Strikers"
http://www.soflastrikers.com/lockhart_stadium10.gif

[efernandez9]

chichi, and you most be the one with the ecuadorian flag?

Private vintage?

[chichi]

Originally posted by efernandez9
chichi, and you most be the one with the ecuadorian flag?

Private vintage?

Hey efern!

Nope, I'm not on there, but I put the picture up just to mess with all of you Mut fans out there.

I'm actually the dude in the picture bellow...
http://www.soflastrikers.com/forums/uploads/av-39.jpg

[TonyFlash]

Excuse me chichi, I believe that is a first half score. They can take the teams away, but not the passion. Thank you MLS!

Tony Flash

[chichi]

Originally posted by TonyFlash
Excuse me chichi, I believe that is a first half score. They can take the teams away, but not the passion. Thank you MLS!

Tony Flash

Tony you are right! I didn't notice it was a first half score...

Does anyone have more pictures of the good old rivalry they can post?

What were the final stats anyway? Did the Fusion have the upperhand or did the lowly Muts have it?

[soccer4sFlorida]

I miss the days ...
MLS this days sucks

We had a good thing going ... the rivalry !!!!!!
even that was missmanaged ..


I went to a few games in Tampa...I remember the last shellacking !!! was it 4-0 Fusion ???
Serna had a couple ... good game ;) for the Fusion

We also had a nice litlle contingency of
the Tampa fans... which was great...
ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh... the good ol' friggin
days

yes thanks MLS :(

[AndyMead]

Overall
Miami won the series 7-5, but was 3-0 in Shootout wins, so in reality it was closer to 4-5-3!

In Lockhart
Miami 4-2 (2-0 SO) 11 Goals For, 11 Goals Against

In Tampa
Miami 3-3 (1-0 SO) 10 Goals For, 7 Goals Against

They never played in the playoffs, nor in the US Open Cup.

[chichi]

Originally posted by AndyMead
Overall
Miami won the series 7-5, but was 3-0 in Shootout wins, so in reality it was closer to 4-5-3!

In Lockhart
Miami 4-2 (2-0 SO) 11 Goals For, 11 Goals Against

In Tampa
Miami 3-3 (1-0 SO) 10 Goals For, 7 Goals Against

They never played in the playoffs, nor in the US Open Cup.

And so, thanks to Andy's info, it is confirmed that the Fusion Ruled over all you lowly Mut fans!!! Buahahahahaha!

[law5guy]

Originally posted by chichi
And so, thanks to Andy's info, it is confirmed that the Fusion Ruled over all you lowly Mut fans!!! Buahahahahaha!

Yawn... This is 2003. Stop living in the past. Sheesh.

[AndyMead]

Originally posted by chichi
And so, thanks to Andy's info, it is confirmed that the Fusion Ruled over all you lowly Mut fans!!! Buahahahahaha!

Not true at all. Wins don't matter, points do.

Points: Tampa Bay 15 - Miami 15.

[chichi]

Originally posted by law5guy
Yawn... This is 2003. Stop living in the past. Sheesh.

law5guy, No one asked your opinion hero!

All I have is the past...


Originally posted by AndyMead
Not true at all. Wins don't matter, points do.

Points: Tampa Bay 15 - Miami 15.

Doooohhhhh!!!!!

[efernandez9]

great past, no matter what the score line was......

even: in POINTS! that really counts, plus the fan (funny) from the confussion (that used to piss off el burrito and cia) that say we had a lil grp of fans? well sorry friend, we average about 3 or 4k more per season than the confussion had in a shorter life! That is why I was so surprised by darn contraction and the likes of Bill Manning or Garber(ish)


Keep the rivalry going!

[efernandez9]

http://www.enlajugada.com/fotos_notas/pibito3.jpg

[soccer4sFlorida]

Originally posted by efernandez9
great past, no matter what the score line was......

even: in POINTS! that really counts, plus the fan (funny) from the confussion (that used to piss off el burrito and cia) that say we had a lil grp of fans? well sorry friend, we average about 3 or 4k more per season than the confussion had in a shorter life! That is why I was so surprised by darn contraction and the likes of Bill Manning or Garber(ish)


Keep the rivalry going!

ef …..
a little exaggerating there ; your 3-4 k attendance :)
Mutiny over Fusion !?

Over the life time of both teams the attendance difference was 1,670
and only $1,447 during the same year operations …

the big difference… was LockhartSSS, was cheap, and almost breaking even.
RJ… was very expensive, and loosing a ton of $$
both venues were mismanaged

What those a soccer fan and fisherman have in common ?
exaggeration

I miss both teams… went to Tampa even before Fusion was in,
and 6 games during, and enjoyed the rivalry…. To bad MLS
mismanaged and did not promote this aspect either…

Fusion2001 a legend in my own mind :)

[efernandez9]

let me find the stats

but - for now do the math: tampa bay had couple of years of 13k and one for 14k

Miami had couple of 7k or 8k

the best yr was no more than 10k

where did you get those numbers, 1.6 differential?

RJS - was not operated by the Mutiny or the MLs
you guys had control of the Ugly lockhart!

[soccer4sFlorida]

you will find the stats in the MLS website/statistics

LockhartSSS soccer heaven USA
dont matter to me what you say :)

if Tampa had Lockhart and a owner... you
may still be in business..

SE Florida... edges Tampa, on growth potential.

OK OK !!! I'll let the cat out of the bag, a bit of
info for my Mutant bro

Tampa is seen as the team, that sparked
contraction...
Therefore it dragged the Fusion with it…
should have been San Jose, or Dallas

Ps I am 99% Afusionario and 1% Mut
all the rest $suck

[chichi]

Ok, ok, I'm the loser that actually went and got the stats...

Home
1996 Tampa Bay Mutiny 20-12 16 186,856 11,679
1997 Tampa Bay Mutiny 17-15 16 181,322 11,333
1998 Tampa Bay Mutiny 12-20 16 164,999 10,312
1999 Tampa Bay Mutiny 14-18 16 209,700 13,106
2000 Tampa Bay Mutiny 16-12-4 16 151,232 9,452
2001 Tampa Bay Mutiny 4-21-2 14 146,704 10,479
Away
1996 Tampa Bay Mutiny 20-12 16 331,269 20,704
1997 Tampa Bay Mutiny 17-15 16 266,617 16,664
1998 Tampa Bay Mutiny 12-20 16 226,433 14,152
1999 Tampa Bay Mutiny 14-18 16 233,142 14,571
2000 Tampa Bay Mutiny 16-12-4 16 219,245 13,703
2001 Tampa Bay Mutiny 4-21-2 13 217,347 16,719
Home
1998 Miami Fusion 15-17 16 164,548 10,284
1999 Miami Fusion 13-19 16 139,021 8,689
2000 Miami Fusion 12-15-5 16 119,352 7,460
2001 Miami Fusion 16-5-5 14 156,481 11,177
Away
1998 Miami Fusion 15-17 16 253,269 15,829
1999 Miami Fusion 13-19 16 261,679 16,355
2000 Miami Fusion 12-15-5 16 212,710 13,294
2001 Miami Fusion 16-5-5 12 171,282 14,274


Tampa had a better average in 6 years 11,060 to Miami's 4 year total of 9,402.

Miami only beat Tampa in Home attendance in 2001.

[efernandez9]

1998 Tampa Bay Mutiny 12-20 16 164,999 10,312
1999 Tampa Bay Mutiny 14-18 16 209,700 13,106
2000 Tampa Bay Mutiny 16-12-4 16 151,232 9,452
2001 Tampa Bay Mutiny 4-21-2 14 146,704 10,479
Away
1998 Tampa Bay Mutiny 12-20 16 226,433 14,152
1999 Tampa Bay Mutiny 14-18 16 233,142 14,571
2000 Tampa Bay Mutiny 16-12-4 16 219,245 13,703
2001 Tampa Bay Mutiny 4-21-2 13 217,347 16,719
Home
1998 Miami Fusion 15-17 16 164,548 10,284
1999 Miami Fusion 13-19 16 139,021 8,689
2000 Miami Fusion 12-15-5 16 119,352 7,460
2001 Miami Fusion 16-5-5 14 156,481 11,177
Away
1998 Miami Fusion 15-17 16 253,269 15,829
1999 Miami Fusion 13-19 16 261,679 16,355
2000 Miami Fusion 12-15-5 16 212,710 13,294
2001 Miami Fusion 16-5-5 12 171,282 14,274



all 4yrs- tampa = 12,775 apx
all 4yrs -lockhart = 12,100 apx

you right I was exagerating, It looked better on a year basis (my memory), for the total numbers, not away/home kind stuff