View Full Version : MLS & WUSA: future possibilities?
kenntomasch
09 Aug 2002, 02:07 PM
They're still breathing. ;)
And, Andy, I don't think I was either defending or decrying Julie Foudy. I was just pointing out that my recollection of the event was that someone was quoted as saying they didn't want MLS piggybacking on WUSA attendances, that Oliver attributed it to Foudy, and that everyone accepted it as gospel that Foudy had said it, when, in fact, none of us heard her (or anyone) say it, and we have no proof now, two years later, as to whether she or anyone else said it at all.
That's all I was saying.
SoFla Metro
09 Aug 2002, 02:09 PM
Originally posted by kenntomasch
They're still breathing. ;)
Through their mouths
AndyMead
09 Aug 2002, 03:11 PM
Originally posted by kenntomasch
That's all I was saying.
That rant wasn't directed at you. Sorry.
AndyMead
09 Aug 2002, 03:12 PM
Originally posted by SoFla Metro
Andy and Julie, sittin' in a tree...
;)
1) Don't tell Ian Sawyers.
2) Don't tell Veronica Paysse.
If only my life were as interesting as what I read about on BigSoccer.com!
SoFla Metro
09 Aug 2002, 03:16 PM
Originally posted by AndyMead
1) Don't tell Ian Sawyers.
2) Don't tell Veronica Paysse.
If only my life were as interesting as what I read about on BigSoccer.com! It'll be our little secret
Originally posted by SoFla Metro
By exactly which standard do you term the WNBA "successful?"
A successful parasite does not kill its host.
NYfutbolfan
09 Aug 2002, 03:27 PM
As much as I'd like to see the ladies succeed, I just don't think it's gonna happen. Soccer itself is trying to break into an oversaturaed market called american sports and women's soccer is going to have a tougher time than MLS.
I would hope that MLS leaves their league alone and lets it thrive or die by itself. I think that MLS taking on a women's league would muddy the waters and dilute their mission, which is to bring top flight entertaining MEN'S soccer to the USA.
Davids26
09 Aug 2002, 03:30 PM
Originally posted by metrosarenumberone
many doubted the wnba at first but now that is doing very sucessful.
That is most definitely news to me....
SoFla Metro
09 Aug 2002, 03:32 PM
Originally posted by CUS
A successful parasite does not kill its host. good point.
Bombatta2
10 Aug 2002, 08:05 AM
Someone a couple of pages back on this thread said there are over twice as many `run-of-the-mill' MLS fans as WUSA fans......
Actually, there are only 2-3,000 more `run-of-the-mill' MLS fans per soccer town than WUSA fans when you consider that almost half of MLS fans are foreign-born Hispanics.
Even American-born, fluent-English-speaking Hispanics and white and black Americans who watch MLS aren't necessarily `run-of-the-mill.' What I mean is, there are a lot fewer fair-weather, casual mens' soccer fans in the U.S. than womens' soccer fans. Part of the appeal of WUSA is the widespread name recognition of Hamm, Chastain, Scurry and Foudy. For MLS, either you are a die-hard fan or you aren't a fan at all (for the most part).
The success of the Men in Japorea has changed that somewhat, but that could fall apart if Donovan, Mathis, McBride, et al head to Europe.
The recent issue of Soccer Digest (if anyone else out there still gets that) had `10 ways to improve MLS.' Number 4, I think, said they need more marquee players, esp. Americans. Number 5 said to let Mathis and possibly other young world-class Yanks go to Europe!!!!
Can you believe the blatant contradiction!?!?!
How are you going to convince new fans to come to a game if there are very few world-class players on the pitch, and when we DO develop a new star, he is sent packing?!?!?
kenntomasch
10 Aug 2002, 02:14 PM
Originally posted by Bombatta2
Someone a couple of pages back on this thread said there are over twice as many `run-of-the-mill' MLS fans as WUSA fans......
No, I said your run-of-the-mill MLS crowd (i.e., one that isn't part of a doubleheader or other promotion, your basic Saturday nighter) is about twice what your run-of-the-mill WUSA crowd is. A run-of-the-mill MLS crowd is right around 13k. A run-of-the-mill WUSA crowd is right around 6500.
Originally posted by superdave
But let's face it...Hunt and Anschutz could make a profit from Columbus and Los Angeles teams. So that's two reasons right there for an MLS takeover.
Columbus? Whoa, there, a minute. That would mean the Wusa would actually FIELD TEAMS IN THE MIDWEST. Weren't the first words from the Wusa office something like, "Nah...we don't want those fan bases in Columbus and Chicago and Detroit and St. Louis. Those cities should stay 1500 miles from any Wusa team. We would place more teams in the Southeast first."
- Detroit Steve