Boca vs Gremio, Copa Libertadores Final first leg, June 13 2007

[argentine soccer fan]

So we made it to the finals. Now all we have to do is beat Gremio.

They are not the typical Brazilian team. They won't score much but are very strong defensively.

Here are a couple of articles from TYC sports:

Russo confirmo el equipo que recibira a Gremio:

http://www.tycsports.com/notas.php?id=30369

El equipo formaria con: Mauricio Caranta; Hugo Ibarra, Daniel Díaz, Claudio Morel Rodríguez, Clemente Rodríguez; Pablo Ledesma, Ever Banega, Neri Cardozo; Juan Román Riquelme; Rodrigo Palacio y Martín Palermo

El Plantel (Gremio) viajo a Buenos Aires con algunas dudas:

http://www.tycsports.com/notas.php?id=30372

la formación probable para el miércoles es: Sebastián Saja; Patricio, William, Teco, Lucio; Sandro Goiano, Diego Gavilán, Lucas; Tcheco; Carlos Eduardo, Tuta o Amoroso.

[Century's Best]

They are not the typical Brazilian team.

What leads you to say this? Their defense only? Or any other reason?

[argentine soccer fan]

What leads you to say this? Their defense only? Or any other reason?

I think of typical Brazilian teams as having more flashy, creative players, and also defenders who love to join the attack.

Gremio, from what I've seen them this Libertadores, plays with several midfielders who are more defensive minded, they like to congest the midfield and make it difficult for opponents. And, their defenders also defend more than they attack.

[Century's Best]

I think of typical Brazilian teams as having more flashy, creative players, and also defenders who love to join the attack.

Gremio, from what I've seen them this Libertadores, plays with several midfielders who are more defensive minded, they like to congest the midfield and make it difficult for opponents. And, their defenders also defend more than they attack.

I see.

Well, whatever you might've known of Gremio before this tournament, do they have any specific reputation or image in Argentina? Or are all or most Brazilian teams lumped into the "jogo bonito" stereotype?

[vipnerd]

I see.

Well, whatever you might've known of Gremio before this tournament, do they have any specific reputation or image in Argentina? Or are all or most Brazilian teams lumped into the "jogo bonito" stereotype?

Porto Alegre teams tend to have a more combative football ... ala Rio de la Plata teams. We saw it with Internacional last year and with this Gremio.

It is no coincidence that Schiavi did not play this weekend (round 5), as he did the weekend prior (round 4). I think he will play on Wednesday and be on top of Palermo. It would be important that Tuta doesn't play, he is "Adrianesque" in his power.

Also ... there is NO AWAY GOAL RULE in the finals. And if needed, in the return leg, as a tie breaker of points and goal diference, EXTRA TIME (30 minutes)takes place ... then pks if still needed.


Dale Boooooooooooooo!


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[John L]

Whats the reaction of team and fans that Boca will be hosting Schiavi, a former member of the team?

[BigSoccer Bot]

Riquelme, Ledesma y Morel Rodríguez están resfriados pero igual van a jugar.

More... (http://www.clarin.com/diario/2007/06/13/deportes/d-05301.htm)

[AcesHigh]

I dont think Schiavi will play. He is out of form and has done some poor matches for Grêmio unfortunatelly (I like him but he is not playing that well).

Alas, Grêmio doesnt do man-to-man marking... Schiavi would not be on top of Palermo all the time. Grêmio marks by zone.

[AcesHigh]

What leads you to say this? Their defense only? Or any other reason?

when we Grêmio fans and gaúchos say that, other brazilians complain saying thats a lie. :rolleyes:

[vipnerd]

I dont think Schiavi will play. He is out of form and has done some poor matches for Grêmio unfortunatelly (I like him but he is not playing that well).

Alas, Grêmio doesnt do man-to-man marking... Schiavi would not be on top of Palermo all the time. Grêmio marks by zone.


Palermo's main threat is the air ball and when he pivots, but has little movility.

Schiavi is good in the air and also can "handle" Palermo's movility. But that doesn't mean he will follow him all the way to mid-field.

Yesterday Gremio used 14 players in the practice, Schiavi being one of them. We'll see.


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[vipnerd]

4 Boca players have been affected with the flu in the past 2 days: Roman, Ledesma, Morel and Marioni. Hopefully this won't affect their play. :mad:

Ledesma is the one that is in worst shape as of today due to the flu. :rolleyes:


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[roxbury]

4 Boca players have been affected with the flu in the past 2 days: Roman, Ledesma, Morel and Marioni. Hopefully this won't affect their play. :mad:

Ledesma is the one that is in worst shape as of today due to the flu. :rolleyes:


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Wow.

Imo that will hurts.

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what is probaly line up...

any formation..


Thanks

[Dr. Know]

Wow.

Imo that will hurts.

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what is probaly line up...

any formation..


Thanks

----------Caranta
Ibarra-Diaz-Morel-Clemente
-----------Banega
Ledesma----------Cardozo
----------Riquelme
---Palacio---------Palermo

[Century's Best]

Will this game be broadcast via streaming? If so can anyone please provide a link?

[bosterosoy]

Will this game be broadcast via streaming? If so can anyone please provide a link?
http://rojadirecta.com/

[inca15]

how do u work roja directa?

[elciclon]

u have to download sopcast.

[inca15]

thx

[BocaFan]

Also ... there is NO AWAY GOAL RULE in the finals. And if needed, in the return leg, as a tie breaker of points and goal diference, EXTRA TIME (30 minutes)takes place ... then pks if still needed.

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That seems odd. Are you sure about that? Why would they change the rule just for the final? Does the away goal rule kick-in after the 30 minute extra time??

[locoxriver]

4 Boca players have been affected with the flu in the past 2 days: Roman, Ledesma, Morel and Marioni. Hopefully this won't affect their play. :mad:

Ledesma is the one that is in worst shape as of today due to the flu. :rolleyes:

Strange.. I remember the press saying that several players (especially Riquelme) were not fit before the matches vs. Libertad and Cucuta. They ended up playing just fine. Is it me or does it seem like they are always making up excuses just incase Boca loses? :rolleyes: Don't get me wrong, they could be sick, it's just wierd that they've always claimed that players weren't fit/healthy before almost every Boca game after the group stage.

That seems odd. Are you sure about that? Why would they change the rule just for the final? Does the away goal rule kick-in after the 30 minute extra time??

Yeah.. Ever since the away goal rule was created. The finals have never used the away goal rule. And no, after the 30 minutes of ET they go to penalties if they are still tied.