Unofficial Cardiff City Thread

[Leedsunited]

4 games, 2 losses at home, 2 wins away. Is it possible to buy away season tickets?:o

Great weekend in all with Feeney going to the Jacks on loan, oh how I laughed when I found that out:D
My god was he terrible last Saturday! Think he used to be a Leeds youth as well. Dear me.

[cowtown]

What did you think of the game, Mr. Cowtown?

I thought Ninian Park was full of character and while I understand it's just not the same beast as a modern stadium for keeping a club competitive, I will miss it and I'm glad I got to see a match there.

Jimmy Floyd looked good, as did Paul Parry, but the boys need to learn to finish. Let's hope the West Brom Carling Cup match can get us on a roll.

Finally, I thought the result was crap, of course, but at least I got to be there for a goal.

All in all, the mrs and I loved it and are trying to scheme up ways to get back next season.

[Bluebirds Boyo]

Full draw for the fourth round of the Carling Cup:


Luton Town v Everton
Portsmouth v Blackburn Rovers
Chelsea v Leicester City
Sheffield United v Arsenal
Tottenham Hotspur v Blackpool
Bolton Wanderers v Manchester City
Coventry City v West Ham United
Liverpool v Cardiff City

Any up for the task of reminding Robbie that he was a boyhood Everton fan? :D

[Bluebirds Boyo]

My god was he terrible last Saturday!
I would have said as much to a Jack I came across in my local the day after he signed if I could stop laughing. ;)

[bakerstreetbully]

alright lads,new on ere,just had a quick read through this thread.and noticed its been a bit quiet lately..........just wanted to know if anyones going to the liverpool?....and what you reckon on the result?....stranger things have happened?....remember leeds?......plus,anyone know if this is gonna be televised?

[Bluebirds Boyo]

Yeah, I'm going. It'll be a decent night out and nice to see such a ground, but we'll lose and it's not that important on the grand scale of things.

[cowtown]

Sorry, boys, don't think I'll be able to make this one.;) Was able to watch the crapfest vs Southampton on Setanta, though.

[Bluebirds Boyo]

Cardiff City 2-3 Wolverhampton Wanderers. 47 points from our last 46 league games now. Three wins in our last twenty league matches.

Enough is enough. If we lose tomorrow then Dave Jones will probably be out of a job he's amazingly managed to retain this long. The faith has finally been lost.

[act smiley]

Thing is though he's never struck me as doing anything outstandingly bad - most of the mistakes seem to be small costly ones. I saw the Burnley game and it was just the odd periods of poor concentration that were the problem and a lot of it is getting way too deep trying to hold the lead at the end - I mean, conceeding late goals has thrown away a good what, 7 points, which would leave things in a much healthier position.

[Bluebirds Boyo]

Small costly mistakes and odd periods of poor concentration will cost us a place in this league if things don't change. At the moment we look like a team that knows it's down already and that's scary in October.

[Football Not Soccer]

A lot has changed in a month.

Jones barely in a job. Ridsdale losing the faith of the fans. Upcoming court case against Langston/Hammam, team playing some of the most diabolical football I've seen in years. Worst of all, we have to go to Hull tomorrow.

It's going to be one long winter. Keep the faith

[Leedsunited]

A lot has changed in a month.

Jones barely in a job. Ridsdale losing the faith of the fans. Upcoming court case against Langston/Hammam, team playing some of the most diabolical football I've seen in years. Worst of all, we have to go to Hull tomorrow.

It's going to be one long winter. Keep the faith
It took the fans that long!? I'm not spamming, but the guy is a pathological liar. I've just finished reading his latest work of fiction, and its the biggest load of cobblers since the 45 minute dossier on Iraq. What do the Cardiff fans think of him? Last season it seemed like Cardiff had money to spend and a promising team, but it seems to be lurching towards a showdown with Langston, with Fowler a total flop (we could have told you that!) and Dave Jones sacking being written out then binned every week.

To make it worse, according to bbc, the plane the players travelled on suffered instrument failure in mid-air. Possibly its just one of those weeks.

[Football Not Soccer]

Fans are as divided on Ridsdale as they are with Hammam. I got banned from CardiffCity.com for calling Ridsdale a 'crook', after all that's what he is. He even got an outspoken fan arrested yesterday or something daft like that.

Hammam in his defense, gave us belief. We have always had tremendous potential. Had crowds of 30,000-40,000+ pre-1970's. Over 1 million people live within half an hour of Ninian Park. We are a sleeping giant. Hammam saw that potential and showed us the way (Well half of it at least). However his motives clearly weren't football. There is an absolute killing to be made in the City. Ninian Park is a sh!t heap. I love it and will miss it desperately but it has stopped us from increasing our fan base, after all how many families want to go to a tin shed every Saturday to be entertained. So how do you justify getting a new stadium for a lowly Division 3 club? You can't (Unless you are MK Dongs scum). Therefore Hammam got us £30 million (over $60 million to our Yank friends) in debt in getting us from Division 3 to Division 1. This is just a drop in the ocean to the money that can be made from retail space et al that accompanies a new ground. All was looking bright until Hammam sided with Labour in the council elections down here who were in power at the time. Labour lost overall control in 2004, so as he jumped into bed with Labour, out of spite, the new leader of Cardiff council, Lib Dem Rodney Berman f*cked him over and the planning process turned into an ordeal.

Enter stage, Messr Ridsdale. Ridsdale was 'brought' to sort out the stadium as the council couldn't work with Hammam. But what were the reasons behind Ridsdale come to Cardiff of all places? To clear his name in the football world or he saw an opportunity to grab a piece of that pie for himself? Call me cynical but the guy is a smug crook who has leeched wherever he has gone.

Roll on this time last year, Ridsdale assumes control of Cardiff City FC as pressure on Hammam built up, with Hammam being forced out of the club although it was him who brought in the loan notes (Secured to CCFC) to fund the building of the stadium, which are due to be paid in 2016 or something daft like that. The loan notes holder is only known to Hammam (Eventually found out to be Langston).

Then earlier this season Langston call in their loan or want to assume control of the club themselves. Hammam obviously has advised Langston to do this
with the stadium being built now as it was struggling to be done before, so Hammam can now ride back into town on his white horse and reap the rewards he sowed.

There is a power battle for my club which is hitting the courts on December the 10th. It stinks.

Both Hammam and Ridsdale are greedy c*nts at the end of the day. Ridsdale is arrogant, walking in on fan meetings, trying to win the support of the fans in this fight. His sphere of influence obviously extends to the internet as I alluded to above.

Who'd I prefer to be the owners at the end of the case? Hammam, he started the ball rolling. Made some school boy errors but at least committed to the club to an extent. I wouldn't be suprised if Ridsdale rode off into the night when all the retail units space is sold unlike Hammam who wanted to see City's ground be extendable from 30k to 60k. He saw profit on the field as well. Ridsdale just saw his donuts off it.

I want to 'live the dream'. Hammam was doing it, Ridsdale just didn't seem bothered. When you are top of the league and spend sweet FA in January transfer window, you know what the chairman really wants.

[Bluebirds Boyo]

I want to 'live the dream'. Hammam was doing it, Ridsdale just didn't seem bothered. When you are top of the league and spend sweet FA in January transfer window, you know what the chairman really wants.
And when you offer Peter Thorne £10,000 for every league goal he scores and £10,000 a week as a basic salary after paying £1,700,000 for his signature whilst in Division Two and attracting 13,000 per home game, you know the club isn't going to last very long with the chairman at the helm.

You want to 'live the dream'? With Ridsdale in charge? I seem to recall him mentioning something about one of his previous clubs living the proverbial dream shortly after the club imploded financially.

PMG Estates' grip on our club stinks, but don't advocate a return for that knob Hammam based on Ridsdale daring not to spend another club into oblivion!

[Football Not Soccer]

Admittedly alot of money was spent on Thorney. But I think it would of been justified should we of got promoted that season. Sjoke f*cked that plan up. That one extra season in Division 2 cost us alot. Hindsight is wonderful isn't it. Hammam brought us belief and the best years I'd had watching the City. I'm sure we'd end up in the Premiership with him at the helm where all his financial errors would be corrected. Financial oblivion? We'd be in the Premiership by 2016 with that £50 million pay package.

Last January we were in a beautiful position. All we needed was that final push, dip into money jar and bring in 4-5 players to complete the squad. I think Whittingham was the only lad we brought in. We suffered. Started a diasatrous run all because Ridsdale wasn't focused with what was happening on the pitch, but was more concerned with the money bags off it. We finished 13th. Not even in the play-offs. Not even in the top half of the table. It's obvious where Ridsdale eyes are.

In a perfect world, Dai Sullivan or Mike Young would be owning us. However, enter reality, it's either going to be Ridsdale and his cronies of Hammam. I'd go for the latter.

As I said, I want to 'live the dream'. Regardless of your views on Hammam, we were living it under him. The optimism. The rise and continued rise of Cardiff city. Kids in South Wales wearing the Bluebird again. Hammam saw the long term gain to be made out of the city, instead of the short time gain off the field.

[Bluebirds Boyo]

Admittedly alot of money was spent on Thorney. But I think it would of been justified should we of got promoted that season. Sjoke f*cked that plan up. That one extra season in Division 2 cost us alot. Hindsight is wonderful isn't it. Hammam brought us belief and the best years I'd had watching the City. I'm sure we'd end up in the Premiership with him at the helm where all his financial errors would be corrected. Financial oblivion? We'd be in the Premiership by 2016 with that £50 million pay package.

Last January we were in a beautiful position. All we needed was that final push, dip into money jar and bring in 4-5 players to complete the squad. I think Whittingham was the only lad we brought in. We suffered. Started a diasatrous run all because Ridsdale wasn't focused with what was happening on the pitch, but was more concerned with the money bags off it. We finished 13th. Not even in the play-offs. Not even in the top half of the table. It's obvious where Ridsdale eyes are.

In a perfect world, Dai Sullivan or Mike Young would be owning us. However, enter reality, it's either going to be Ridsdale and his cronies of Hammam. I'd go for the latter.

As I said, I want to 'live the dream'. Regardless of your views on Hammam, we were living it under him. The optimism. The rise and continued rise of Cardiff city. Kids in South Wales wearing the Bluebird again. Hammam saw the long term gain to be made out of the city, instead of the short time gain off the field.
You're taking the piss, aren't you?

Hammam is a property developer, just like PMG Estates Ltd. He wanted the cash to be made from the property he proposed that we develop the very second he got here!

He needed us in the top two divisions to justify the need to the council for a new stadium, so they'd hand over £40m worth of land for next to nothing to the club, so he nearly spent us out of existence simply to make a few dirty pounds for himself.

We'd be in the Premiership if he had stayed? What? Well, I think if Ridsdale stays then we'll win the Champions League in three seasons, so my drug-induced dream world trumps yours.

Paul Guy and Sam Hammam are IDENTICAL in their attitudes towards this club. They both wanted us to stay in the Championship until the stadium and retail park plans were passed so they can ride off into the sunset with many bags with little pound signs scribbled on them; nothing more, nothing less.

[cowtown]

I'm still pretty new, so would somebody please tell me more about this:

"Shortly after taking over at Cardiff, Hammam controversially pledged to get the entire Welsh nation to support Cardiff by renaming the club "The Cardiff Celts" and changing the club colours to green, red and white."

(from http://www.answers.com/cardiff%20city because Wikipedia is not working for me)

From this, and his role in the Wimbledon debacle, it seems Football may be one of Sam's favorite ways to make money, but fans and comunity don't seem to be very high on his list of priorities. Not that Pete's delusions of having an infinite supply of money at Leeds is much better, but ask Wimbledon supporters whether they prefer the Football League or the Isthmian.

[Bluebirds Boyo]

I'm still pretty new, so would somebody please tell me more about this:

"Shortly after taking over at Cardiff, Hammam controversially pledged to get the entire Welsh nation to support Cardiff by renaming the club "The Cardiff Celts" and changing the club colours to green, red and white."

(from http://www.answers.com/cardiff%20city because Wikipedia is not working for me)
Just one of Hammam's stupid ideas when he first took over in 2000 that was quickly consigned to the 'room for improvement' bin.

I have a leaflet somewhere about it which was handed out at a home match, where Hammam waxes lyrical about how one day thousands of people from North Wales will travel past Liverpool and Birmingham during their ten-hour round-trip to Cardiff home games.

He's a prat, basically.

From this, and his role in the Wimbledon debacle, it seems Football may be one of Sam's favorite ways to make money, but fans and comunity don't seem to be very high on his list of priorities. Not that Pete's delusions of having an infinite supply of money at Leeds is much better, but ask Wimbledon supporters whether they prefer the Football League or the Isthmian.
You're clearly a man of great perception.

Funny you should mention Hammam getting the ball rolling on Wimbledon's move to Milton Keynes, though, since he also looked into moving them to Cardiff, along with Dublin, before settling on everyone's favourite concrete-based nightmare of a town.

In lighter news, City were yesterday effectively relegated from the Championship with the worst performance I have seen in a few fair years, coupled with no sign that any action will be taken by anyone in power at the club to stop us hosting League One football next season.

I bet you wish you picked one of the Big Four to support now, don't you 'Cowtown'? ;)

[Leedsunited]

While I hate Peter Ridsdale, and even more so for his book which is the biggest load of excuses and old sh*te I've ever read, I can see why some of this is not his fault, but he isn't the right person to be trusted with money. Leeds did have the money, on proper financial arrangements, but Ridsdale saw it as a cash cow. If he had properly spent it, we could have won the league a few seasons after we finished third. We had a young squad, of hungry players, but Ridsdale just spent money 'because he could'. I'd be seriously worried about the future, even if he steers you round the Langston court case. I never thought I'd say it but I'd take Ken Bates over Ridsdale any day. I don't know whether he's a crook, just a drama queen, who cannot run a football club to save his life.

In the book he excuses every mistake by saying that other board members decided things for him. For example, David O'Leary apparently granted exclusivity to agent Rune Hauge over the Rio Ferdinand transfer from WHU, offering him £4m to make the deal happen. Fair enough, but why didn't he sack the manager then, for spending a huge some of money, operating outside both company policy and overstepping his remit? From wasting £3,000 an hour on a private jet, to paying £400,000 for a 'translator', who turned out to be nothing of the sort, just a hanger on to Olivier Dacourt when he was negotiating a move from RC Lens. He was in the meeting for 1 hour, apparently to help smooth the language barrier with Dacourts agent. As it turned out Dacourt's agent spoke good english, and he was not needed. The bill was submitted and Ridsdale paid it to avoid being taken to court. Now come on Peter, as several columnists have pointed out, an invoice is a fair representation of the service provided. You can't simply pull a figure from the air. If a mechanic changed your car tyre, then submitted an invoice for £400,000 you would tell them to piss off, and probably notify the police.


Its stories like this that make me worry about whether, without the debt, he can run a football club properly.

[Bluebirds Boyo]

Peter Ridsdale is incompetent beyond belief at being a chairman.

Sam Hammam buys clubs to destroy them for his own financial ends.

Which chairman do you think we'd be best off having?