Unofficial Cardiff City Thread

[Football Not Soccer]

No foresight whatsoever by Cardiff City again. The same with the stadium situation of them wanting to make it only 25,000 capacity while sharing with the egg chasing scum. 30,000 minimum is a must as it will allow for our supprot to swell and will cost less then expanding to 30k in the future, with the ultimate dream of a 60,000 capacity ground.

[cowtown]

No foresight whatsoever by Cardiff City again. The same with the stadium situation of them wanting to make it only 25,000 capacity while sharing with the egg chasing scum. 30,000 minimum is a must as it will allow for our supprot to swell and will cost less then expanding to 30k in the future, with the ultimate dream of a 60,000 capacity ground.

I think the groundshare is a good way to bring in some extra cash, as long as the Blues are a TENANT and not a partner. Of course, here in the US, my local side, FC Dallas, groundshare, in a manner of speaking, with two High School gridiron teams, a second-rate lacrosse tournament, and any touring musical act that will come out to the suburbs. I may therefore be biased in thinking that one rugby club is not so bad.

I also tend to think that the capacity issue is a case of a well-considered conservative decision. There are few things worse for atmosphere and looking "big-time" than a crowd nowhere near the stadium's capacity.

[Football Not Soccer]

I think the groundshare is a good way to bring in some extra cash, as long as the Blues are a TENANT and not a partner. Of course, here in the US, my local side, FC Dallas, groundshare, in a manner of speaking, with two High School gridiron teams, a second-rate lacrosse tournament, and any touring musical act that will come out to the suburbs. I may therefore be biased in thinking that one rugby club is not so bad.

I also tend to think that the capacity issue is a case of a well-considered conservative decision. There are few things worse for atmosphere and looking "big-time" than a crowd nowhere near the stadium's capacity.

Ground sharing will bring in very little money indeed and also ruin the pitch, not to forget that i'll have some smelly follower of the Nazi code using my seat when the Blosers are there. As for the capacity is it either conservative or naive. Personally I think it is ludicrous and pointless to move as Ninian is 22,000 as it is. We might as well of redeveloped it for half of the price and have a 20,000 capacity (Taking into account the placement of seats in the Bob Bank and Grange End compensated with seats in the corners and extension of the Canton End). If it were a 30K ground and we got an average of 20 thousand, it would be much different from 20K in a 25K ground. I think it's a short sighted move which will cost alot more money in the long run should we expand, bare in mind the cost of construction is going up all the time. I hope we average 18,000 this year to show the board what a big mistake they are making because if we can get that number to that relic on Sloepr Road, goodness knows how many will go to a brand new ground.

[cowtown]

Ground sharing will bring in very little money indeed and also ruin the pitch, not to forget that i'll have some smelly follower of the Nazi code using my seat when the Blosers are there. As for the capacity is it either conservative or naive. Personally I think it is ludicrous and pointless to move as Ninian is 22,000 as it is. We might as well of redeveloped it for half of the price and have a 20,000 capacity (Taking into account the placement of seats in the Bob Bank and Grange End compensated with seats in the corners and extension of the Canton End). If it were a 30K ground and we got an average of 20 thousand, it would be much different from 20K in a 25K ground. I think it's a short sighted move which will cost alot more money in the long run should we expand, bare in mind the cost of construction is going up all the time. I hope we average 18,000 this year to show the board what a big mistake they are making because if we can get that number to that relic on Sloepr Road, goodness knows how many will go to a brand new ground.

Well, I won't argue much, as I am here in the US, and I have to support my local club first, but I also support Cardiff with my time, energy, and money. I haven't been a fan very long, but seeing the results last winter and spring made me understand what British fans mean when they say they're "gutted," and it made me sure that I won't truly care about the results of any Premiership match until Cardiff City is one of the clubs playing in it.

Getting back on topic, I hope that you're right that the attendance makes the board look foolish, but honestly, with his history, I'd rather see Peter Ridsdale err on the side of being cheap and conservative. Are Leeds going to even be allowed to start the season?

[Football Not Soccer]

I think only God knows what is happening at Leeds. Such a messy situation, Ken Bates selling the club then re-buying it, I won't touch it with a 12 foot pole at the moment as it is too confusing. That club is up sh!t creek without a paddle

cowtown, how did you come to support the great club that is Cardiff City?
BTW you mind if we nick Juan Toja to partner Robbie Fowler up front?:p

[jiggerjake]

A few reasons. None of them huge, but added up they're enough to feel like I picked the right team for me:

-I became interested in soccer, and being int he states, it is just so much easier and more natural to follow the British teams.
-I picked up my interest in the game from my father in law, who is from India, lived in London, and has family in Wolverhampton, but is a Man U fan, and that just wasn't happening. Give me SOME underdog element and a team I can be proud to say I was a fan through thick and thin, even if the origins of that affection can't be traced back very far.
-My family name is one that can be traced back to Wales, though the spelling has been anglicized.
-I would love to see an "outsider" team bust through to the Premiership, and who is more an outsider than the Welsh team playing in the old stadium with terraces, with the fans with the bad reputation?
-After University, I backpacked through the British Isles for a few weeks, and I spent several days in Cardiff. I really enjoyed the city, was treated very well, and thought the place was somewhere I'd like to come back to.
-Swansea seemed dirty and gross and I was bored while I was there.

So there you go. I'm not spending thousands of dollars on them or anything, and I put up with my wife's fondness for Spurs, but I have developed an abiding affection for the Bluebirds, and I can't see myself truly following any other team other than my local boys, FC Dallas.



thats why he likes cardiff...

[Football Not Soccer]

Laziness got the better of me:o Still it's good to hear these quirky tales of how people across the globe come to follow your local side. You've made the right choice lads:cool:

[act smiley]

Yes, the "stadium".


We sold the rights to the club shop to Joma two years ago, so they'd get a very large chunk of that money indeed. A bit of a cock-up on the board's part, really, since Joma are so effin' inept that they can't even find a decent quality glue to stick the sponsor onto replica kits, but whatever.

Hey, it could be worse. We had JJB kits last year and they were beyond hopeless. Oh well, I thought, at least the JJB will have one of them hidden away in a corner because they're own brand. Nope, just a billion Liverpool kits.

Personally I think it is ludicrous and pointless to move as Ninian is 22,000 as it is.
Those braindead morons at the FLA have decided that its safe to use, but only if a replacement is being made. If the stadium plans got axed, you'd find it being only the 12,000 seats very quickly.

[Football Not Soccer]

Those braindead morons at the FLA have decided that its safe to use, but only if a replacement is being made. If the stadium plans got axed, you'd find it being only the 12,000 seats very quickly.

Hence why I said...

We might as well of redeveloped it for half of the price and have a 20,000 capacity (Taking into account the placement of seats in the Bob Bank and Grange End compensated with seats in the corners and extension of the Canton End)

As for referring to the FLA braindead as morons, that because you agree or disagree with terracing in the top 2 divisions? I for one will be gutted to see it go being a season ticket holder on the Bob Bank terrace. I guess we all know who to blame for that:rolleyes:

[Bluebirds Boyo]

Ground sharing will bring in very little money indeed
Correct, around £200,000 per year. Also known as Jason Byrne's wages.

Personally I think it is ludicrous and pointless to move as Ninian is 22,000 as it is. We might as well of redeveloped it for half of the price and have a 20,000 capacity (Taking into account the placement of seats in the Bob Bank and Grange End compensated with seats in the corners and extension of the Canton End).
Oh aye, I'm sure those retail property developers on the board thought long and hard over whether to develop some retail property!

[cowtown]

Correct, around £200,000 per year. Also known as Jason Byrne's wages.


Oh aye, I'm sure those retail property developers on the board thought long and hard over whether to develop some retail property!

Oh jesus... I don't know which is worse... That the ground share brings in so little, or that the one-goal wonder (no offense) is making so much. Aren't Fowler's base wages only about £780,000?

[act smiley]

or that the one-goal wonder (no offense) is making so much.

To be honest, its not that much over the odds - ok, I'd have expected it to be a little bit less considering he's a backup player, but even so any team in the league would be paying nearly similar money.
A little suprised that a groundshare would be £200,000 though - I'd have thought it'd have been double that. Is that for just putting the big games that they have in the millenium stadium there, or for everything?



As for referring to the FLA braindead as morons, that because you agree or disagree with terracing in the top 2 divisions?

Isn't it obvious from my description of them that I err, have certain fundamental disagreements with regards to their policy. I guess it might be a little bit ambigous though, but yeah, I like terracing - obviously, it has to be safe terracing but Ninian Park's is safe and I don't see why Cardiff being a better side now than 5 years ago means that it isn't. :)

I dunno how many seats you'd be able to squeeze in if you just bolted down seats onto the terraces - I'd have thought it would have dipped under 20,000 capacity cause there's only really one corner that I thought you could fill in that easily, the one between the grange end and the bob bank and from memory you'd only get a few in there - I dunno, I just don't think you'd get more than about 18,000 seats and if you did anything more dramatic, it'd be money down the drain. I guess taking into account all the extras you could make money off in the new stadium it still makes financial sense to build it even at 25,000. Oh, and 20,000 in a 30,000 odd seater does look empty, but like you I don't see why that's such an issue compared to what a cost it would be if they needed to add 5,000 more seats later on.


I for one will be gutted to see it go being a season ticket holder on the Bob Bank terrace.

Were you the guy that turned around to explain to my not-much-of-a-football-fan friend who we'd dragged along the finer points of Dennis Wise's personality in a most eloquent manner at the match against Leeds then? :p
(For the record, my friend said "I dunno, I doubt he's that bad." after I'd been ranting and raving all the way there, this guy turns round and goes "he's a ********(4,c)!" then turns back around)

[Football Not Soccer]

Were you the guy that turned around to explain to my not-much-of-a-football-fan friend who we'd dragged along the finer points of Dennis Wise's personality in a most eloquent manner at the match against Leeds then? :p
(For the record, my friend said "I dunno, I doubt he's that bad." after I'd been ranting and raving all the way there, this guy turns round and goes "he's a ********(4,c)!" then turns back around)I don't think I'm the bloke you're on about but he is right, Leeds and Dennis Wise are c**ts:D You visit Fortress Ninian much then bud?

Aren't Fowler's base wages only about £780,000? Which is excellent considering that Bristol City paid £1 million for that fat Jack b@stard:cool: Apparently yesterday alone, at the launch of the new kit, over 3000 shirts were sold with about half having 'Fowler 8' on the back. He's renumerating his wages already, and with a season ticket boost as well, some shrewd business by that crook Ridsdale for once!

[act smiley]

I don't think I'm the bloke you're on about but he is right, Leeds and Dennis Wise are c**ts:D You visit Fortress Ninian much then bud?

Hehe! I don't go that often, last season saw Derby, Leeds and of course Leicester. Might go a bit more this season, depends.

[Football Not Soccer]

Hehe! I don't go that often, last season saw Derby, Leeds and of course Leicester. Might go a bit more this season, depends.

Cool, that Derby game was the beginning of the end of our great run, seem to remember conceding an equaliser right at the death of that game:mad: The Leeds game was very satisfying though, but killed my nerves. Down to 9 men, how we held on I don't know... Actually come to think of it, I do, Leeds are gash! Hope to see you at Parc Ninian this coming season anyway bud

BLUEBIRDS!!!

[cowtown]

Which is excellent considering that Bristol City paid £1 million for that fat Jack b@stard:cool: Apparently yesterday alone, at the launch of the new kit, over 3000 shirts were sold with about half having 'Fowler 8' on the back. He's renumerating his wages already, and with a season ticket boost as well, some shrewd business by that crook Ridsdale for once!

Ha! I think it'll be pretty funny, if Bristol City go back down, since there's no way Swansea's coming up, to see what the Jacks have in store for their chubby golden boy.

[Football Not Soccer]

Good win and performance on Saturday against FC Twente. Great preparation although Fowler picked up a minor knock but should be back for the Sjoke game on Saturday. Trevor Sinclair was awesome, delivery spot on, something we really missed last season since Koumas left. Johnson and Loovens a brick wall as per usual at the back. Rae looked sharp and Feeney took his goal very well. This season may not be as painful as I thought it would be after all!

[act smiley]

Depends on what your expectations are as to whether its going to be a disappointment, really. I'd be a bit worried with the importance being placed on Fowler to be honest, while he's obviously very good it could go the same way as the Chopra dependency last season.

[jiggerjake]

yea but now we have trevor sinclair as well so i imagine it will be different that with just chopra last year

[cowtown]

Okay... My wife and I are going to be in the UK for a wedding in late September, so we're flying over early to have a bit of a vacation (or "holiday," I guess). We are going to make sure we're in Cardiff for the Watford match on Wednesday, September 19, and this may be the only match we get to for literally YEARS, so I need some help. We will both be in Cardiff gear (of course), but this will be our first game outside the US, and I want the experience to be as good as possible. Where should we stay? Where should we eat? Where should we try to sit at Ninian Park (I'm assuming it won't be like FC Dallas games here where we buy the cheap seats and sit wherever we want because the place is half empty)? What's the best way to get to Cardiff from Gatwick, and once in Cardiff, what's the best way to get to the stadium? If there's an online resource where I can find answers, please clue me in. We could use all the help we can get.