How many games does Onyewu miss?

[LetsGoYanks]

Does he just miss a single game or is he out for the rest of group play?

Wasn't sure of the exact rules in the Gold Cup.

TIA.

[Delta Blues]

One.

[LetsGoYanks]

Thanks, Delta. :)

[joeginto]

I know it's a minimum of one game and my understanding is CONCACAF waits until it receives the match report from the official and reviews the evidence. I think they have to do this before the next game and make the announcement.

Given the refereeing last night, I think Gooch will be fresh for the Copa America because they'll probably give him at least a 3-match ban. I'm only half kidding.

[Li mu bei]

Hopefully only--but exactly--as many as necessary to burn the absolutely necessity of playing smarter onto his heart and mind.

[galperin]

Hopefully only--but exactly--as many as necessary to burn the absolutely necessity of playing smarter onto his heart and mind.
exactly

[LetsGoYanks]

Another question: Are yellow cards removed at the conclusion of group play for the knock-out rounds?

[superdave]

I know it's a minimum of one game and my understanding is CONCACAF waits until it receives the match report from the official and reviews the evidence.
I'm pretty sure it's only straight reds that get treated this way. I've never heard ANYwhere in soccer of a player getting more than one match for 2 yellows.

Have you?

[Delta Blues]

I'm pretty sure it's only straight reds that get treated this way. I've never heard ANYwhere in soccer of a player getting more than one match for 2 yellows.

Have you?
Exactly. Although this is CONCALAUGH. ;)

[joeginto]

I'm pretty sure it's only straight reds that get treated this way. I've never heard ANYwhere in soccer of a player getting more than one match for 2 yellows.

Have you?

You're right. I had a brain fart. Forget it was two yellows.

[tab5g]

i've glanced over the Concacaf Gold Cup Regulations, and don't see any clear answers to Red Card (2 Yellow Card) multi-game suspensions, or to the carry over of Yellow Cards into the second round. I would assume the rule on these matters are identical to the rules Fifa uses for the WC:

http://www.concacaf.com/stats_regs.asp

http://www.concacaf.com/graphics/stats-regs/pdf/2007GOLDCUPREGS-Mar8.pdf

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VI. DISCIPLINARY COMMITTEE
1.
The CONCACAF Disciplinary Committee is empowered to:
a.
Admonish, sanction, fine, suspend or disqualify players, referees, team officials or coaches.
b.
Take any disciplinary measure in accordance with the FIFA Disciplinary Code against any person or National Association(s) which may violate the Competition Regulations, the Laws of the Game or the rules of Fair Play.
c.
Prohibit violators from participating in a specific number of CONCACAF organized tournaments in which they might otherwise have participated.
2.
Report serious matters for further consideration by the Executive Committee.
3.
The decisions of the Disciplinary Committee will be based on written reports from referees, assistant referees and/or the Match Commissioner and video footage available from the disputed match. All participating National Associations will be informed of the sanctions imposed.
4.
The Disciplinary Committee may convene a personal hearing and will decide the procedure to be followed. Decisions resulting from such hearing shall be invalid if less than three members are present.
5.
All economic penalties assessed must be paid by the appropriate Association no later than sixty (60) days after notification thereof.

VII. APPEALS COMMITTEE
1.
The Appeals Committee shall hear appeals lodged against decisions passed by the Disciplinary Committee.
2.
The procedure to be applied by the Appeals Committee is defined in the FIFA Disciplinary Code.
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[ulyssesr]

I know it's a minimum of one game and my understanding is CONCACAF waits until it receives the match report from the official and reviews the evidence. I think they have to do this before the next game and make the announcement.

Given the refereeing last night, I think Gooch will be fresh for the Copa America because they'll probably give him at least a 3-match ban. I'm only half kidding.

CONCACAF should review the two yellows Onyewu recieved. The first one was questionable. Ref was biased. Ruiz flops all the time. They should let Onyewu play the next game, but I already know he will get a one game suspension. Bring in Demerit.

[Chuy]

CONCACAF should review the two yellows Onyewu recieved. The first one was questionable. Ref was biased. Ruiz flops all the time. They should let Onyewu play the next game, but I already know he will get a one game suspension. Bring in Demerit.

The first one was questionable? He clearly tried to kick the dude in the balls. The referee did seem to call the Americans tighter than the Guatemalans for most of the match, but I thought both of Onyewu's cards were well-deserved. He lost control of himself and was taking his frustrations out in an inappropriate way.

Bocanegra's card was crap, though. Guatemalan players got away with much worse without so much as a foul called, much less a card.

[casoccerdad47]

CONCACAF should review the two yellows Onyewu recieved. The first one was questionable. Ref was biased. Ruiz flops all the time. They should let Onyewu play the next game, but I already know he will get a one game suspension. Bring in Demerit.

Ruiz didn't flop on the first yellow, he had turned and was heading downfield with the ball. Ruiz actually committed a foul and Gooch appeared to retaliate.

[law5guy]

i've look over the Concacaf Gold Cup Regulations, and don't see any clear answers to Red Card (2 Yellow Card) multi-game suspensions, or to the carry over of Yellow Cards into the second round. I would assume the rule on these matters are identical to the rules Fifa uses for the WC:

http://www.concacaf.com/stats_regs.asp

http://www.concacaf.com/graphics/stats-regs/pdf/2007GOLDCUPREGS-Mar8.pdf

----------
VI. DISCIPLINARY COMMITTEE
1.
The CONCACAF Disciplinary Committee is empowered to:
a.
Admonish, sanction, fine, suspend or disqualify players, referees, team officials or coaches.
b.
Take any disciplinary measure in accordance with the FIFA Disciplinary Code against any person or National Association(s) which may violate the Competition Regulations, the Laws of the Game or the rules of Fair Play.
c.
Prohibit violators from participating in a specific number of CONCACAF organized tournaments in which they might otherwise have participated.
2.
Report serious matters for further consideration by the Executive Committee.
3.
The decisions of the Disciplinary Committee will be based on written reports from referees, assistant referees and/or the Match Commissioner and video footage available from the disputed match. All participating National Associations will be informed of the sanctions imposed.
4.
The Disciplinary Committee may convene a personal hearing and will decide the procedure to be followed. Decisions resulting from such hearing shall be invalid if less than three members are present.
5.
All economic penalties assessed must be paid by the appropriate Association no later than sixty (60) days after notification thereof.

VII. APPEALS COMMITTEE
1.
The Appeals Committee shall hear appeals lodged against decisions passed by the Disciplinary Committee.
2.
The procedure to be applied by the Appeals Committee is defined in the FIFA Disciplinary Code.
---------


Per, FIFA Disciplinary Code ... cautions do carry over:

http://fifa.com/mm/document/affederation/administration/fifa%5fdisciplinary%5fcode%5fen%5f41.pdf

Article 36 Carrying over cautions
1. Cautions received during one competition are not carried over to
another competition.
2. They are, however, carried over from one round to the next in the same
competition. The Disciplinary Committee may exceptionally depart
from this rule before the start of a particular competition. This provision
is subject to art. 37.
Article 37 Cancellation of cautions
1. Upon its own initiative or at the request of a confederation, the Disciplinary
Committee may cancel cautions that have not resulted in an
expulsion so as to restore the balance among several teams that have
not played the same number of matches during the fi rst round of a
competition, or in other exceptional circumstances.
2. In any case, the committee may do this only once in any competition.
3. The Disciplinary Committee’s decision is fi nal.

[Delta Blues]

The first one was questionable? He clearly tried to kick the dude in the balls. The referee did seem to call the Americans tighter than the Guatemalans for most of the match, but I thought both of Onyewu's cards were well-deserved. He lost control of himself and was taking his frustrations out in an inappropriate way.

You're seeing eye dog types pretty well, but still doesn't see very well.

[kurgen99]

You're seeing eye dog types pretty well, but still doesn't see very well.

Yeah, wtf? It happened right in front of me, and I thought it was the worst call I've ever seen. The only thing "clear" from the sidelines was that the ref had it out for us.

[Chuy]

You're seeing eye dog types pretty well, but still doesn't see very well.

If you disagree with me, fine; tell me why rather than just flaming. By the way, your post is grammatical nonsense. At least my seeing eye dog could pass elementary school English. ;)

Yeah, wtf? It happened right in front of me, and I thought it was the worst call I've ever seen. The only thing "clear" from the sidelines was that the ref had it out for us.

Just to be clear, I think Ruiz committed a foul that should have been called. However, most referees would have punished Gooch's retaliatory kick in the same manner. It was simply uncalled for.

I think the referee made other bad calls against Gooch in the game, that led to him being understandably unhappy. But he has to learn how to control his emotions better. If you don't think he was out of control near the end, then I think you're delusional.

[Daniel le Rouge]

Just to be clear, I think Ruiz committed a foul that should have been called. However, most referees would have punished Gooch's retaliatory kick in the same manner. It was simply uncalled for.

No. That's crap. Either Gooch retaliated, in which case he sees straight red, or he was flat on his back from the foul with his legs in the air. There is no in-between on this call. Either way, the ref screwed up.


I think the referee made other bad calls against Gooch in the game, that led to him being understandably unhappy. But he has to learn how to control his emotions better. If you don't think he was out of control near the end, then I think you're delusional.

This is 100% spot-on. Bradley goofed by not pulling him out.

[ClarkC]

Bocanegra's card was crap, though.

Bocanegra cleated Ruiz on the shin, cleats well of the ground as they went for a ball that was off the ground. I really don't see why several posters have complained about this. Saying that Guatemalans should have received several yellow cards for similar tackles is not the same as saying that Bocanegra should not have received a yellow.