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squidward123
08 Jun 2007, 05:20 AM
To be honest, with all the shit floating around him atm, I don't blame him at all.

I knew at one time he said he would never play for Bayern, but things are so poisoned right now, its best for him to go.

I agree. If he's had problems in his family, it takes precedence over a football club and he should be allowed to go.

"Eisenfuß" Eilts
08 Jun 2007, 07:07 AM
To be honest, with all the shit floating around him atm, I don't blame him at all.


M.K. has no nuts.
He deserves the rumors, he betrayed the club,
he stole the fans their dreams.
He ruined our season and played bad on purpose.
He´s simply a traitor.

Werder should transfer him to Lyon.
They offer much more than the
a**hole club from Munich.
(Sorry, Bayern fans, but this is true,
what Hoenass do is an assault.
It´s as always in German football,
Bayern act like criminals and nobody has
the nuts to stand up.) :mad:

its best for him to go.

That´s true.

Dead Fingers
08 Jun 2007, 08:34 AM
To be honest, with all the shit floating around him atm, I don't blame him at all.

I knew at one time he said he would never play for Bayern, but things are so poisoned right now, its best for him to go.

And that's the thing, this is a Bremen/Klose issue AND NOT a Bayern issue. It would be best for him to go somewhere else. Whether that is Bayern or some other club...who knows? What the hell is going on in Bremen that Klose would want to leave so badly? I seriously doubt that this is just "Klose acting nuts"

squidward123
08 Jun 2007, 08:47 AM
Can someone tell me what the rumours are exactly, and what the truth is exactly about Klose's problems in Bremen. Are they family related?

Dead Fingers
08 Jun 2007, 08:53 AM
Can someone tell me what the rumours are exactly, and what the truth is exactly about Klose's problems in Bremen. Are they family related?

From what I understand, and anybody can please correct me on this, is that this seems to be more of a locker room/management issue. Didn't the "family" rumors come AFTER the meeting w/ Bayern from the Bremen forum? Hard to keep all this straight. :o

squidward123
08 Jun 2007, 09:59 AM
From what I understand, and anybody can please correct me on this, is that this seems to be more of a locker room/management issue. Didn't the "family" rumors come AFTER the meeting w/ Bayern from the Bremen forum? Hard to keep all this straight. :o

Yeah, no idea mate. I'm waiting for someone to fill me in...

"Eisenfuß" Eilts
08 Jun 2007, 10:42 AM
And that's the thing, this is a Bremen/Klose issue AND NOT a Bayern issue.

Well, DF, that´s typical for Buyern.
Causing trouble at other BL clubs and then say, it wasn´t us. :rolleyes:
I don´t mean the rumours, i don´t know, where they come from,
(would be interesting to know, but no one of us has currently information,
just rumours and there are already enough rumours)
i mean meeting with players without informing the club,
using press to make pressure on other teams, turning players head
and other ugly tricks, that real gentleman don´t do.
Shame on you, Bayern Munich, you have no honor.

Well, i don´t expect from you to agree with me.
The last years i had absolute no problem with your club,
i was a fair rivalry, but this behaviour piss me off to act
against other clubs behind their back makes me angry.

It would be best for him to go somewhere else. Whether that is Bayern or some other club...who knows?

I totally agree. Best would be a foreign team, so that i don´t have to watch
him play again. :mad:

What the hell is going on in Bremen that Klose would want to leave so badly?

After the show Klose made, it will be hard for him.
He lied to the people, who supported him,
he broke their hearts and stole them their dreams.
In the last time he payed the price for it,
i know, it´s a tough time for him, but he wanted it this way.
It was a similar situation like his last season at K-Town.
(footyfan, Frings has a dark past, when he left us and your club,
Klose has it, too. It wasn´t so much in the media in 2004,
because Klose didn´t have the name he has now)
He should have learned from situation, he could have avoided
it with clear statements at the right time.
He also dissapointed the other players and Thomas Schaaf,
who always trusted him and letting him play.
It´s no secret, that some players in the team don´t like him anymore.

He won´t be accepted anymore, just tolerated
if he shows performance.
It would be easier for him to leave.

Dead Fingers
08 Jun 2007, 11:25 AM
Well, DF, thatīs typical for Buyern.
Causing trouble at other BL clubs and then say, it wasnīt us. :rolleyes:
I donīt mean the rumours, i donīt know, where they come from,
(would be interesting to know, but no one of us has currently information,
just rumours and there are already enough rumours)
i mean meeting with players without informing the club,
using press to make pressure on other teams, turning players head
and other ugly tricks, that real gentleman donīt do.
Shame on you, Bayern Munich, you have no honor.

Well, i donīt expect from you to agree with me.
The last years i had absolute no problem with your club,
i was a fair rivalry, but this behaviour piss me off to act
against other clubs behind their back makes me angry.

I totally agree. Best would be a foreign team, so that i donīt have to watch
him play again. :mad:

After the show Klose made, it will be hard for him.
He lied to the people, who supported him,
he broke their hearts and stole them their dreams.
In the last time he payed the price for it,
i know, itīs a tough time for him, but he wanted it this way.
It was a similar situation like his last season at K-Town.
(footyfan, Frings has a dark past, when he left us and your club,
Klose has it, too. It wasnīt so much in the media in 2004,
because Klose didnīt have the name he has now)
He should have learned from situation, he could have avoided
it with clear statements at the right time.
He also dissapointed the other players and Thomas Schaaf,
who always trusted him and letting him play.
Itīs no secret, that some players in the team donīt like him anymore.

He wonīt be accepted anymore, just tolerated
if he shows performance.
It would be easier for him to leave.

EE, I do disagree with you. What would cause Klose to even think about meeting with Bayern...a team in which both sides have said repeadetly, had NO interest in the other? Sorry, something is going IN Bremen. To say there are no ego difficulties in the locker room is absurd. Happens at all the big clubs. And sorry, if Klose was an issue, Schaaf bears much of the blame for even playing him. DO any of us know what really went on? I doubt it.

Now, let's get my Bayern bias out of the way. Personally, I don't care if he comes to Bayern or not. Maybe after all the years of the two saying they have no interest in the other I still don't visualize him in a Bayern uniform whatsoever. If he went someplace else, I would feel the same way, somewhat indifferent. And I think we are agreed that a foreign club would be a good choice. Have there even been any offers from abroad?

Ok, Klose, yeah.. I agree he bears a good portion of the blame for all of this. Seeing Bayern w/o telling the club was rather stupid. Hell, it was pretty idiotic. And why would he go to a rival, such as Bayern? Would I want a guy who is somewhat of a headcase on my team? Not really.

Anyway, I respect your opinion a lot on here EE and that won't change.

squidward123
08 Jun 2007, 11:41 AM
It was very stupid of klose to NOT TELL bremen before he went to talk to munich. That is true.

I do agree that the fans would be angry at him for talking to bayern without telling the club.

I'd like to know however, what it is in bremen that was the problem for him before that. Is it teammates? Management? Family problems? Health problems he has confirmed.

The Old Lady Hertha
08 Jun 2007, 11:46 AM
I'd like to know however, what it is in bremen that was the problem for him before that. Is it teammates? Management? Family problems? Health problems he has confirmed.

I don't think anyone really knows except for those within the club. Notice how silent most of the Werder players and staff have been about it....

squidward123
08 Jun 2007, 11:55 AM
Yeah true, so we'll never know.

But if it's family problems (although he denied that in the interview), then that has to be taken seriously for him.

Hendrik
08 Jun 2007, 12:37 PM
It's expected he will comment on the whole story after joining Bayern.

sting-ray
08 Jun 2007, 01:14 PM
It's expected he will comment on the whole story after joining Bayern.

not if he gets assasinated...

footyfan1
08 Jun 2007, 01:49 PM
EE, I do disagree with you. What would cause Klose to even think about meeting with Bayern...a team in which both sides have said repeadetly, had NO interest in the other? Sorry, something is going IN Bremen. To say there are no ego difficulties in the locker room is absurd. Happens at all the big clubs. And sorry, if Klose was an issue, Schaaf bears much of the blame for even playing him. DO any of us know what really went on? I doubt it.

Now, let's get my Bayern bias out of the way. Personally, I don't care if he comes to Bayern or not. Maybe after all the years of the two saying they have no interest in the other I still don't visualize him in a Bayern uniform whatsoever. If he went someplace else, I would feel the same way, somewhat indifferent. And I think we are agreed that a foreign club would be a good choice. Have there even been any offers from abroad?

Ok, Klose, yeah.. I agree he bears a good portion of the blame for all of this. Seeing Bayern w/o telling the club was rather stupid. Hell, it was pretty idiotic. And why would he go to a rival, such as Bayern? Would I want a guy who is somewhat of a headcase on my team? Not really.

Anyway, I respect your opinion a lot on here EE and that won't change.


I totally with agree EE's comments. Bayern are partially the cause of this.

A BIG part of it.....

I hear Barca are still interested in Klose, but word of his Bayern comments are just getting to fans there too.

Dead Fingers
08 Jun 2007, 01:55 PM
I totally with agree EE's comments. Bayern are partially the cause of this.

A BIG part of it.....

I hear Barca are still interested in Klose, but word of his Bayern comments are just getting to fans there too.

Klose could have said ******** off, but...he didn't.

footyfan1
08 Jun 2007, 02:06 PM
Well, DF, thatīs typical for Buyern.
Causing trouble at other BL clubs and then say, it wasnīt us. :rolleyes:

Totally correct.


I donīt mean the rumours, i donīt know, where they come from,
(would be interesting to know, but no one of us has currently information,
just rumours and there are already enough rumours)
i mean meeting with players without informing the club,
using press to make pressure on other teams, turning players head
and other ugly tricks, that real gentleman donīt do.
Shame on you, Bayern Munich, you have no honor.

I have seen some of the "old, ruthless, cheating Bayern" in this saga, but DF is right when he says Klose has to bear a lot of the blame here too.

I'd love to blame Bayern for the rumors too, but I just can't.


Well, i donīt expect from you to agree with me.
The last years i had absolute no problem with your club,
i was a fair rivalry, but this behaviour piss me off to act
against other clubs behind their back makes me angry.

You're a better man than me. I would have hated them after the Ismael thing......

Until a few years ago when the DFB/DFL changed the rules to cover Bayern's cheating asses that was totally illegal.



I totally agree. Best would be a foreign team, so that i donīt have to watch him play again. :mad:

One of my best friends from Erlangen is living in Barcelona now and she says that Rikjaard has interest in Klose, but the fans aren't thrilled with his "I will play for Bayern" comments.



After the show Klose made, it will be hard for him.
He lied to the people, who supported him,
he broke their hearts and stole them their dreams.
In the last time he payed the price for it,
i know, itīs a tough time for him, but he wanted it this way.
It was a similar situation like his last season at K-Town.
(footyfan, Frings has a dark past, when he left us and your club,
Klose has it, too. It wasnīt so much in the media in 2004,
because Klose didnīt have the name he has now)
He should have learned from situation, he could have avoided
it with clear statements at the right time.
He also dissapointed the other players and Thomas Schaaf,
who always trusted him and letting him play.
Itīs no secret, that some players in the team donīt like him anymore.

I cannot agree with those comments. I know you are hurt, but man, I've followed Miro Klose since his amateur days at FCK and I've had the chance to speak with him on more than one occassion. This is (or was) an honorable young man.

Something happened there to change that. I don't know whether it was the family rumors, a run-in with Frings or what.

But something happened to change this young man. And for that problem to be bad enough to get him to want to join a club he never said he'd join, it has to be a serious one.

I also don't know what you are talking about when he left FCK. Miro Klose did all he could for the club and helped make sure they got paid for him.

He didn't do anything that adversely affected FCK. There, I don't know what you're talking about.




He wonīt be accepted anymore, just tolerated if he shows performance.
It would be easier for him to leave.

He would leave. Your guys have to sell him.

Dead Fingers
08 Jun 2007, 02:10 PM
Well, the question is, how much is he going to fetch? One year on his contract, slightly out of form. 10-15 million???

footyfan1
08 Jun 2007, 02:12 PM
Klose could have said ******** off, but...he didn't.

And I didn't say he was innocent either, did I?

footyfan1
08 Jun 2007, 02:16 PM
Well, the question is, how much is he going to fetch? One year on his contract, slightly out of form. 10-15 million???


I think 10M would be a lowball offer, but I would not blame Bayern one bit for lowballing Bremen here.

Bayern are definitely in the driver's seat. I wish I was still reporting.

I suspect they are up to their old tricks.......

Dead Fingers
08 Jun 2007, 02:20 PM
I think 10M would be a lowball offer, but I would not blame Bayern one bit for lowballing Bremen here.

Bayern are definitely in the driver's seat. I wish I was still reporting.

I suspect they are up to their old tricks.......

No offers from abroad?? Or did Klose's comments pretty much kill that?