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Douai
15 May 2007, 06:58 PM
Composition de l'Assemblée nationale (Current)
Groupe Membres Apparentés Total
UMP 356 9 363
Socialiste 140 1 141
UDF 27 2 29
Communistes & Républicains 21 1 22
Non inscrits 21 0 21

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c8/2002.png

Reazzurro90
10 Jun 2007, 06:54 PM
According to Le Monde, the UMP will probably occupy between 360 and 420 seats of the French National Assembly. At any rate, it is a massive victory, and serves to deepen the current parliamentary majority that it already has.

http://medias.lemonde.fr/mmpub/edt/ill/2007/06/10/h_3_sieges_463_.jpg

Looks like Sarkozy will have a tremendous mandate to push forward his reforms for France.

Lately, it seems like there has been a wave of center-right victories in Europe.

In Britain, the Conservatives have been gaining on the Labour, in Belgium they have gained immensely, in France they have confirmed (and solidified) their hold, and in Italy and Spain they have largely won their local elections.

I honestly hope that's set to continue.

Douai
10 Jun 2007, 11:11 PM
I have seen projections as high as 500 seats for the UMP.

Pierre-Henri
11 Jun 2007, 06:33 AM
Comme Sarkozy est parti en croisière,
http://contreinfo.info/IMG/arton944.jpg

les socialistes ont voulu faire pareil :
http://www.paranormal-fr.net/dossiers/images/radeau-de-la-meduse-1.png

Douai
11 Jun 2007, 10:21 AM
Funny picture that I found on Le Monde
http://medias.lemonde.fr/mmpub/edt/ill/2007/06/11/h_9_ill_921980_roy_hol.jpg
"François Hollande et Ségolène Royal à un meeting du Parti socialiste, le 29 mai 2007."

guignol
11 Jun 2007, 11:44 AM
Funny picture that I found on Le Monde
http://medias.lemonde.fr/mmpub/edt/ill/2007/06/11/h_9_ill_921980_roy_hol.jpg
"François Hollande et Ségolène Royal à un meeting du Parti socialiste, le 29 mai 2007."your little martine looks like she's pushing FH away from his concubine...

Anthony
11 Jun 2007, 02:12 PM
In other news, Belgium had their election yesterday also and it looks like a big victory for the center-right -- the only possible governing coalition is between the liberals and Christian democrats.

Hello, is this thing on?

Bueller?

Any way, back to France, my offer still stands -- if any depressed French leftist wishes to trade houses with me after Clinton or Obama or Gore wins, let me know.

Reazzurro90
11 Jun 2007, 03:23 PM
In other news, Belgium had their election yesterday also and it looks like a big victory for the center-right -- the only possible governing coalition is between the liberals and Christian democrats.

Hello, is this thing on?

Bueller?

Any way, back to France, my offer still stands -- if any depressed French leftist wishes to trade houses with me after Clinton or Obama or Gore wins, let me know.

Haha, neither of those candidates have prayer's chance against the Republican candidates for the '80. Elections. Firstly, the Republican Party has largely recovered from the debacle of the 2006 Congressional elections. Secondly, all of their candidates have appeared much more credible and serious than any of the Democrat. Let's face it - Clinton only has the cash, and Obama has the oratory - but neither actually offer solutions to America's problems. And if Giuliani wins the primaries for the Republican Party - it's going to be a massacre. He'll woo voters from the Democratic Party without a doubt.

As for the French elections - as I've stated, this trend has been echoing throughout all of Europe. The center-right has won convincingly in France, in Belgium, and from today's run-off results, in Italy.

I realize this is a mostly left-wing French forum, but I do have to say that I'm happy Sarkozy won. He honestly appears to be the only effective leader for that country.

Douai
11 Jun 2007, 04:05 PM
Any way, back to France, my offer still stands -- if any depressed French leftist wishes to trade houses with me after Clinton or Obama or Gore wins, let me know.

lol.Anthony,I already told you there is no way that the Democrats will win next year.Especially if Clinton,Obama, or Gore are the candidates.Many people hate Hillary,Obama is black and supposely very liberal,and many people think Gore is a douchebag.

guignol
12 Jun 2007, 05:42 AM
Haha, neither of those candidates have prayer's chance against the Republican candidates for the '80. Elections. Firstly, the Republican Party has largely recovered from the debacle of the 2006 Congressional elections.but what about the larger débacle of 8 years of disastrous oilbrat mismanagement on all fronts and a great many behinds? if dollar bills had republican printed on them a lot of people would take a vow of poverty!
I realize this is a mostly left-wing French forum, but I do have to say that I'm happy Sarkozy won. He honestly appears to be the only effective leader for that country.i'm actually of two minds. selfishly, as a homeowner and wage earner, i realize sarko puts france in a better condition to compete in the contemporary global economy and €nhance$ my lifestyle. but that contemporary global economy is a smoke and mirrors house of cards based on the fuite en avant of growth at all costs, and puts a serious 1,000 year mortgage on the planet i'm going to leave to my kids.

Douai
12 Jun 2007, 12:03 PM
but what about the larger débacle of 8 years of disastrous oilbrat mismanagement on all fronts and a great many behinds? if dollar bills had republican printed on them a lot of people would take a vow of poverty!


guignol has a point.Both political parties have a bad image right now.

Anthony
12 Jun 2007, 12:15 PM
guignol has a point.Both political parties have a bad image right now.

Congress's approval rating is at 27% right now. Pelosi is at 36%.

Basically, there is a lot of political discontent. The bases are really pissed off at their sides. Which is why I think we are seeing Obamamania among the Democrats and the Thompson boomlet among the GOP. Which is why the immigration bill died on arrival (even though it basically gave both sides what they said they wanted).

Iraq is the elephant in the room as even the Democrats don't seem to want to talk about it any more. And because we are so hard wired into the two party system, any change will have to come out of the parties.

I am a McCain supporter but I have to admit, I fear the immigration bill has killed his candidacy. He has pissed off to many in the GOP primary electorate.

So if any disgruntled French leftist wants to switch houses with me, the offer still stands. However, I am only interested in Paris, the Alps or the south of France.

Douai
12 Jun 2007, 12:32 PM
Congress's approval rating is at 27% right now. Pelosi is at 36%.

Is that worse than the old Congress' approval rating?

"Le président du MoDem a affirmé qu'il "ne donnerait pas de consigne de vote" pour le second tour des législatives"

http://elections.france2.fr/actu/31787595-fr.php

Anthony
12 Jun 2007, 12:37 PM
Is that worse than the old Congress' approval rating?



Not sure, but given that the new Congress came in in a blue wave so to speak, and changed hands with great promise. It did not take long for the drop to occur (at this point in 1995, Gingrich was at 46%).

The left wing base of the Democrats is pissed off about Iraq and is worried about Iran. And many others (myself included) are pissed off by the "meet the new boss, same as the old boss" attitude of the Democratic leadership regarding transparency issues. I mean, back in October, I decided that the House GOP leadership deserved to lose and needed to lose due to corruption but also fiscal matter (earmarks, etc). The Democrats get in and despite promises, the earmark matter is worse now -- earmarks are getting added to bills AFTER they are printed and released and no one's name is attached to any earmark.

[Edited to say -- I mistyped slightly. Earmarks are now added after committee, so they must be addressed on the House floor, rather than in committee. ]

And William "Cold Cash" Jefferson is still a member of Congress.

But the House GOP, instead of bring in new leadership (Mike Pence anyone?) instead reelected most of the same old leadership.

I really wish we had a viable third party in the US.

Pierre-Henri
12 Jun 2007, 03:51 PM
I really wish we had a viable third party in the US.

Maybe you could shelter our socialists. After the big blows they're taking right now, they'll need some place to recover.

Let's create a "save french socialists" fund !
http://www.lpo.fr/images/logos/logo-wwfH50.gifhttp://www.panapress.com/images/unicef.gifhttp://www.empowers.info/var/empowers/storage/images/media/partner_logos/care_international/7690-3-eng-GB/care_international_emp_logo.gif

Nanbawan
12 Jun 2007, 06:19 PM
Let's create a "save french socialists" fund !


LOL, let's do something for the French Communist Party as well...

http://www.pfg.fr/Images/newpac/PFG-Roblot_logo.gif

Nanbawan
12 Jun 2007, 06:20 PM
I really wish we had a viable third party in the US.

Bloomberg ?

Anthony
12 Jun 2007, 06:43 PM
Bloomberg ?


WAAAAYYYY too much of a nanny stater. (And imagine, if the Democrats nominates Clinton, the GOP Giuliani, and Bloomburg runs as an independent, that means three New Yorkers running for President -- so I guess Clinton would have to break out her faux southern accent again).

The problem, is that the guy who could really have shaken things up, Ross Perot, turned out to be a paranoid nut.

guignol
13 Jun 2007, 04:11 AM
LOL, let's do something for the French Communist Party as well...

http://www.pfg.fr/Images/newpac/PFG-Roblot_logo.gif
i'm afraid this may be lost on those who don't live in france so at the risk of ruining the genius of this pince sans rire post with laborious explanations...

these are the logos for associations of undertakers!

guignol
13 Jun 2007, 04:40 AM
Congress's approval rating is at 27% right now. Pelosi is at 36%. Basically, there is a lot of political discontent...

then it's time for REVOLUTION!!

let's see, i know we hid those somewhere...

yes! sous la bitume, les pavés, et sous les pavés...

http://fontenayplateau.free.fr/Final%20desordres/images/trou%20chauss%E9e%20PICT0339.JPG

So if any disgruntled French leftist wants to switch houses with me, the offer still stands. However, I am only interested in Paris, the Alps or the south of France.tony, tony!! why choose when in lyon you have all of those right at hand? paname in 2 hours by TGV, the alps and/or provence an hour away by car! le nombril du monde quoi!