Carlos Tevez vs. Wayne Rooney

[Moishe]

The thing with Tevez is h's clearly a world class player that any team in the world could make use of, I don't anyone who rates Rooney above him trying to do him down. It's just that Rooneyis a monster, he's one of those rare players that can dominate a game at any level.

All due respect, but the same comment can be made of Tevez.

[Moishe]

People on this forum allways put rooney down because they are jealous that england have his talent. The fact is rooney came back from his injury last season and scored 14 goals. He will be in the same league as ronaldiniho and henry in a few years, he is an amazing talent. Tevez is a great player too, and very similar players, but i cant see tevez having the mind to lob david james as rooney did last season or make a run like rooney did against chelsea.

Rooney is a team player, take him away from man u last season and chelsea win the league. Watch him come back this season fully fit, with henry gone i wouldnt bet against him being the leagues top scorer.

I haven''t put the guy down nor have I read any posts that truly dawg King Wayne but to base it on jealousy? A wee bit absurd to be honest. Again Rooney has done some brilliant things no doubt maybe even better than Tevez at times but again Carlitos is every bit as creative a player. I think where you nailed it is making the comment that Rooney will be in the same league as Henry and Ronaldinho in a few years. Based on the hype, I'd expect him to already be there. This argument has no definitive right or wrong. Obviously I'm biased as an Argentine and a Bostero but if you were to tell me that Rooney is better than Messi, I would lean towards Rooney. Most ManU and England fans cannot and wont be told that anyone is better than or has more potential than Rooney.

[Teso Dos Bichos]

The only time wasted is due to the fact that no matter what is put forth you can see anything other than ManU red. I've provided facts and all you provide is your personal wisdom which is likely limited due to age. Comparisons are only 100% valid when the two go head to head. I only saw one such match and that was the last match ManU and WHU played and I think it's pretty obvious who the best player on the pitch that day was.

Thanks for further proving that you know nothing about me or my posts in relation to Tevez and Rooney. Perhaps you should do that search. The fact that you wasted your time listing team and personal achievements, despite everyone knowing that they are a crock when comparing players is touching but still a complete waste of time. Comparisons are not only 100% valid when players play against each other and claiming so is perhaps the most stupid thing that has been said in this entire thread, so congratulations on that particular accolade. I'm really getting quite sick of coming into threads like these to find posters ignorantly falling into the 'bash player 'a' to promote player 'b' trap'. You are far from the worst but still guilty. Of course, considering some of your comments in the previous post I doubt anything is going to change anytime soon, so I honestly do not know why I am wasting my time. Therefore to conclude and provide a perfect summary of this thread I give you the following statement:

Rooney is shit and Tevez is God.

The End.

[Val1]

Well, it'll be interesting to see what happens when Tevez joins Man Utd. I'm not sure that Tevez has had a club manager as good as SAF, so this must be a promising time to be a Man Utd fan, because when all is said and done, Rooney will be riding the pine. Rooney is a quality talent, but Tevez has the potential to be world class. He's just better: he can't really be displaced off the ball, he attacks space better than anyone in the Premiership (almost like a young Gary Lineker). And he's got almost as good a shot.

[Moishe]

Thanks for further proving that you know nothing about me or my posts in relation to Tevez and Rooney. Perhaps you should do that search. The fact that you wasted your time listing team and personal achievements, despite everyone knowing that they are a crock when comparing players is touching but still a complete waste of time. Comparisons are not only 100% valid when players play against each other and claiming so is perhaps the most stupid thing that has been said in this entire thread, so congratulations on that particular accolade. I'm really getting quite sick of coming into threads like these to find posters ignorantly falling into the 'bash player 'a' to promote player 'b' trap'. You are far from the worst but still guilty. Of course, considering some of your comments in the previous post I doubt anything is going to change anytime soon, so I honestly do not know why I am wasting my time. Therefore to conclude and provide a perfect summary of this thread I give you the following statement:

Rooney is shit and Tevez is God.

The End.


So again I ask, where exactly is the bashing of Rooney to further my opinion of Tevez. I've gone back over my posts before submitting and all I see are very positive and complimentary comments about Rooney. Stop being the pompous one and for the record I have looked at some of your posts and you overvalue your contribution to this forum.

Rooney is great and Tevez is greater.

The end:)

[Teso Dos Bichos]

Well, it'll be interesting to see what happens when Tevez joins Man Utd. I'm not sure that Tevez has had a club manager as good as SAF, so this must be a promising time to be a Man Utd fan, because when all is said and done, Rooney will be riding the pine. Rooney is a quality talent, but Tevez has the potential to be world class. He's just better: he can't really be displaced off the ball, he attacks space better than anyone in the Premiership (almost like a young Gary Lineker). And he's got almost as good a shot.

He will not displace Rooney and the interesting thing will be the partnership they will form. It has the potential to be explosive and they vary just enough to make it workable. Obviously time will tell but exciting times are ahead.

So again I ask, where exactly is the bashing of Rooney to further my opinion of Tevez. I've gone back over my posts before submitting and all I see are very positive and complimentary comments about Rooney. Stop being the pompous one and for the record I have looked at some of your posts and you overvalue your contribution to this forum.

Rooney is great and Tevez is greater.

The end:)

Then you need to start reading again.

[Spartak]

Thanks for further proving that you know nothing about me or my posts in relation to Tevez and Rooney. Perhaps you should do that search. The fact that you wasted your time listing team and personal achievements, despite everyone knowing that they are a crock when comparing players is touching but still a complete waste of time. Comparisons are not only 100% valid when players play against each other and claiming so is perhaps the most stupid thing that has been said in this entire thread, so congratulations on that particular accolade. I'm really getting quite sick of coming into threads like these to find posters ignorantly falling into the 'bash player 'a' to promote player 'b' trap'. You are far from the worst but still guilty. Of course, considering some of your comments in the previous post I doubt anything is going to change anytime soon, so I honestly do not know why I am wasting my time. Therefore to conclude and provide a perfect summary of this thread I give you the following statement:

Rooney is shit and Tevez is God.

The End.
Wait, is this the Kaká versus C. Ronaldo debate or the Rooney/Tevez debate :confused: Your replies are the same in each debate. When someone comes up with the conclusion that Kaká/Tevez is better you resort to the "Stop bashing <insert ManU player>" routine. In a debate you are gonna get people to point out the weaknesses of all the players in the debate. If you don't want to hear any criticisms of your ManU players don't read this thread.

[Moishe]

He will not displace Rooney and the interesting thing will be the partnership they will form. It has the potential to be explosive and they vary just enough to make it workable. Obviously time will tell but exciting times are ahead.



Then you need to start reading again.

The top part of your post I agree with. Together they have the potential to be utterly devestating. Tevez is a team first player and his skill and vision will make Rooney the player you've already made him out to be.

[Teso Dos Bichos]

It has nothing to do with bashing Man Utd players and everything to do with the ignorance displayed by people who either know nothing of one player or feel the need to bash another to make their point. Funny you should mention Kaka, or Tevez or what about Figo? In the case of all three I highly praised each player and pointed out the idiocy in the bashing of the player they were compared to. Pity few others had the same decency. Even you have fallen into the trap in this very thread. Thanks for playing Spartak but you completely missed the point.

[Teso Dos Bichos]

The top part of your post I agree with. Together they have the potential to be utterly devestating. Tevez is a team first player and his skill and vision will make Rooney the player you've already made him out to be.

I could say the same in reverse. Your problem is simply that you do not give Rooney the credit he deserves. Just look at the figures he posted this season and that was despite playing like shit for the first half of the season as he recovered from injury. It seems that regardless of what the kid does he is still hated. Whether that is to do with his nationality, club or the press is up to others to decide. I have no problem with your opinions regarding Tevez and a search of my posts shows how highly I rate him. Just don't fall into the trap of belittling Rooney to make your point.

[Spartak]

It has nothing to do with bashing Man Utd players and everything to do with the ignorance displayed by people who either know nothing of one player or feel the need to bash another to make their point. Funny you should mention Kaka, or Tevez or what about Figo? In the case of all three I highly praised each player and pointed out the idiocy in the bashing of the player they were compared to. Pity few others had the same decency. Even you have fallen into the trap in this very thread. Thanks for playing Spartak but you completely missed the point.
I guess you need to look up the difference between "bashing" and "criticizing" in the dictionary :rolleyes: Please elaborate on how I "bashed" Ronaldo or Rooney.

[Moishe]

I could say the same in reverse. Your problem is simply that you do not give Rooney the credit he deserves. Just look at the figures he posted this season and that was despite playing like shit for the first half of the season as he recovered from injury. It seems that regardless of what the kid does he is still hated. Whether that is to do with his nationality, club or the press is up to others to decide. I have no problem with your opinions regarding Tevez and a search of my posts shows how highly I rate him. Just don't fall into the trap of belittling Rooney to make your point.

Since this was more so directed at me Teso I'll respond. Yes you could say the same in reverse and I wouldn't pout about it like you seem to do to any response someone sends your way. I do and have given Rooney the credit he rightfully deserves. He is awesome no doubt but I've watched Carlitos religously and thanks to FSC I've had the luxury of watching Rooney. Factor in all the vidoe outlets on the internet and I can form my own opinion. His tallies after playing through the injury he did is no doubt commendable but is that the sole basis for your opinion?

I have no hate for Rooney as hating a pro athlete seems like a petty waste of time. I don't even have any disdain for his off pitch actions for boys will be boys and when you throw his income into the equation, oh friggin' well.

I measure which player is better based not on what they've done at great clubs but what they've done at not so good clubs. Tevez was the only shining light at West Ham this whole miserable term and the only reason they get to stay up one more season. When people talk of ManU they speak of the great players that make up the squad. It's not just Rooney to where the Hammers were all Tevez when it mattered the most.

Now I ask of you to please show me where I've belittled or bashed Rooney. You sir need to go back and read my posts if you truly believe I've disrespected Rooney. Having an opinion that differs from yours is okay. Like another poster said, if you don't want to hear opinions of ManU players that differ from yours, simply stay out of the thread.

[O Fenômeno]

Messi= the best young talent.....


There......

*passes the bong*

[Moishe]

Messi= the best young talent.....


There......

*passes the bong*

I didn't want to go there but thanks for the bong hit none the less. Dank not shwag I hope:D

[Moishe]

Teso I'm still waiting for these Rooney bashing and belittling comments you claim I've made. Also using the term ignorance against other folks is well ignorant when you yourself can't accept that other people disagree with you. Were you ignored as a child?

[SIR-T]

Messi= the best young talent.....


There......

*passes the bong*

I rate messi just under rooney and tevez. With messi there is huge potential, and with rooney there is huge potential, but i dont think tevez will a get huge amount better than his current standard. To fair i expect him to score 20 goals plus if he is playing for man u next season, and if that aint a compliment i dont know what is.

If you asked me now who is the best player i would put them around the same, but if you ask me in 10 years, who had the biggest impact, i think the answer will be rooney.

[roby]

I rate messi just under rooney and tevez. With messi there is huge potential, and with rooney there is huge potential, but i dont think tevez will a get huge amount better than his current standard. To fair i expect him to score 20 goals plus if he is playing for man u next season, and if that aint a compliment i dont know what is.

If you asked me now who is the best player i would put them around the same, but if you ask me in 10 years, who had the biggest impact, i think the answer will be rooney.

I kinda like Carlos just the way he is now. All the mentioned players are pretty top notch but I enjoy watching him the most.

Play on....

[cr7torossi]

I have a question to all those going for Tevez:-

How much do you rate Rossi for his similar performance(to Tevez) at Parma?

By the way, I don't think Tevez>Rooney or vice-versa.

[roykeanes_safc]

Wayne Rooney is the best young player in the world at the minute. Tevez and Messi are both excellent players but when Rooney picks up the ball you feel something very special could happen the same with Kaka and Ronaldinhio. The reason Rooney recieves the abuse in that he isnt the best and that he is "hyped" is because he is English. England having a player like Rooney destroys the myth that we cant play football, our youngsters are poor and we are light years behind the super nations. In England however we know this isnt true simply weve had poor coaches who havent used the talent to full effect and use long ball tatics.

England currently have the best young player in the world, the best defense in the world, one of the best cm in the world and in aaron lennon i believe we could have a world class winger. Ask anyone form the continent however we are a long ball team who cant keep the ball when in fact our players are being badly coached.

[Naughty by Nature]

Wayne Rooney is the best young player in the world at the minute. Tevez and Messi are both excellent players but when Rooney picks up the ball you feel something very special could happen the same with Kaka and Ronaldinhio.

Messi, Cristiano Ronaldo would surely disagree with that.