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cmblfc
04 May 2007, 01:58 AM
I play keeper in Intramurals at my college. I always have had a very aggressive way of playing (basically, you come into my area and have the ball you are going to get hurt.) and I am very vocal. Not just to my teammates directing them to who they have a cover, but I have a habit of just thinking out loud. When something happens, everyone knows about it.

So basically, "********" is every other word I say. I dont usually pay attention much to it, I guess I am just used to it. But it almost got me into a fight on the pitch with a kid who was obviously not used to playing against me.

I wouldnt ever dream of losing this intensity while on the pitch, if my suggestions and blabbering get into people's heads especially.

Does anyone else who plays keeper do this, or anyone used to this on the pitch?

coppa
04 May 2007, 09:31 PM
You should keep your cursing to yourself.

Sport Billy
04 May 2007, 09:58 PM
Do you really think you are going to "get in someone's head" by cursing?

You should be carded for unsportsman like conduct.

Don't you have any respect for the game itself?

I'd be embarrassed if you were on my team.

cmblfc
04 May 2007, 11:21 PM
Do you really think you are going to "get in someone's head" by cursing?

You should be carded for unsportsman like conduct.

Don't you have any respect for the game itself?

I'd be embarrassed if you were on my team.

I dont do it to get into peoples heads. It does because it is what it is. Its me getting extremely fired up for a game and making a save spikes that fire up.

I dont see anything wrong with it. Win or lose, I am the first to shake everyone on the opposing teams hand.

Ive never heard in my life of someone being carded for cursing after making a bad or good play. Are you dreaming?

Maybe I need to clear this up. I am not saying "Hey, Midfielder! Youre an asshole!" I am making a save and saying "No F'in way" or something like that. I would never degrade a person that is coming onto the pitch. They are a player just like me and have just as much of a right to be there. I just happen to have more energy than most.

rca2
05 May 2007, 12:10 AM
Oh yeah. You are such a good sportsman: "I always have had a very aggressive way of playing (basically, you come into my area and have the ball you are going to get hurt.)"

Nobody I know wants someone that plays like that on their team.

cmblfc
05 May 2007, 12:20 AM
Oh yeah. You are such a good sportsman: "I always have had a very aggressive way of playing (basically, you come into my area and have the ball you are going to get hurt.)"

Nobody I know wants someone that plays like that on their team.

Ive never received a card in all my years of playing and never cheap-shotted anyone. I play aggressively. I am 6'4 and 270 lbs. I play within the game's rules. Being as tall as I am, coming at someone aggressively is warranted as a keeper and as a soccer player who cares about winning. What I said is an expression. Apparently you arent aware of it. I care very much about the health and well-being of the players around me. I have collided with some of my friends in past years and it risked injury to both of us. I am extremely careful to not hurt people, but that does not mean that I will let them get a clear shot on me without sliding in and attempting to take the ball.

If someone on my team does something out of line, I do my best to be the first to point it out. Soccer is a very precious game and to break the rules does the beautiful game a disservice. People may not like the way I act, though I do it to keep myself pumped up and have never called anyone out.

I didnt ask if people liked the way I played. None of you have seen me play. I wanted to know if there were any keepers out there who have similar types of energy and focus.

rca2
05 May 2007, 01:16 PM
Intensity and passion are good attributes for a keeper. Without them, it would be very difficult to stay focused for 90 minutes.

vanity_soccer13
05 May 2007, 02:08 PM
Ive never heard in my life of someone being carded for cursing after making a bad or good play. Are you dreaming?

I've gotten cards for yelling at my teammates to pass me the f'ing ball. It's discretion of the ref. Foul language is a bookable offense.

Law 12- Fouls and Misconduct

Sending-off Offenses

6. uses offensive or insulting or abusive language and/or gestures

cmblfc
05 May 2007, 02:21 PM
I've gotten cards for yelling at my teammates to pass me the f'ing ball. It's discretion of the ref. Foul language is a bookable offense.

Law 12- Fouls and Misconduct

Sending-off Offenses

6. uses offensive or insulting or abusive language and/or gestures

I figured it was only if directed towards a ref, or in a threatening fashion toward someone.

You most certainly shouldnt have been carded for that. That is ridiculous.

GKbenji
05 May 2007, 08:54 PM
Good thing you never played high school soccer. Under those rules, any foul language, even incidental, is yellow carded. You'd have one, two yellows and be gone.

Even if language isn't directed at anyone, if the ref decides it's unsporting you can get a yellow, and a straight red if he thinks it's foul or abusive. The louder and more often it happens, the more likely you are to see a card. BTW, if I ever did your game, shouting "No f'ing way!" at (or even near) an opponent might well get you a caution.

If not, you might end up with a card anyway for the fistfight when a striker finally takes exception to your cussing and takes it personally. I'd be careful.

nobody
06 May 2007, 10:46 AM
You really are lucky if you curse throughout the game loud enough that its getting in the other players' ears and haven't been carded. Trash talk in soccer is usually limited to softer talking when players are huddled close for corners or other such things...where I've heard some shit that would make a whore blush. I've played in a lot of games at a lot of different levels and frankly, I've never seen anyone getting by with just randomly cursing loudly throughout the game. Either you're playing with some pretty casual/incompetent refs or it's juts a matter of time before the cards start getting pulled out. It's just not considered sportsmanlike to walk around shouting profanity the whole game.

Plenty of guys I've played with would see absolutely nothing wrong with taking a swing at you for crap like that, which is just one of the reasons it's not appropriate to do what you're doing. If that's the only way you can keep your intensity on the field, maybe this ain't the game for you.

cmblfc
06 May 2007, 11:26 AM
You really are lucky if you curse throughout the game loud enough that its getting in the other players' ears and haven't been carded. Trash talk in soccer is usually limited to softer talking when players are huddled close for corners or other such things...where I've heard some shit that would make a whore blush. I've played in a lot of games at a lot of different levels and frankly, I've never seen anyone getting by with just randomly cursing loudly throughout the game. Either you're playing with some pretty casual/incompetent refs or it's juts a matter of time before the cards start getting pulled out. It's just not considered sportsmanlike to walk around shouting profanity the whole game.

Plenty of guys I've played with would see absolutely nothing wrong with taking a swing at you for crap like that, which is just one of the reasons it's not appropriate to do what you're doing. If that's the only way you can keep your intensity on the field, maybe this ain't the game for you.

Its a product of my intensty, not the sole ingredient.

nobody
06 May 2007, 11:38 AM
I'm just saying, you're extremely lucky to get by with it. You start playing some other places and you'll find out real quick that most refs will absoultely not put up with that kinda shit and you will need to learn to play without it. And if it keeps starting fights, I'd be pretty surprised if even the refs where you're playing now wouldn't eventually make you knock it off.

Sorry if it offends you, but runing around cussing like a madman while playing a game is just immature and stupid. Learn to play without it.

cmblfc
07 May 2007, 12:39 AM
I'm just saying, you're extremely lucky to get by with it. You start playing some other places and you'll find out real quick that most refs will absoultely not put up with that kinda shit and you will need to learn to play without it. And if it keeps starting fights, I'd be pretty surprised if even the refs where you're playing now wouldn't eventually make you knock it off.

Sorry if it offends you, but runing around cussing like a madman while playing a game is just immature and stupid. Learn to play without it.

It didnt start any fights. The kid saw I was amped up and tried to get me to fight. He said some choice words that he thought would piss me off, but he was the one that wanted to throw down.

Its not cussing like a madman. Forget it. I didnt explain it well enough in the beginning and its not gonna work now.

Sport Billy
07 May 2007, 01:16 AM
I wouldnt ever dream of losing this intensity while on the pitch, if my suggestions and blabbering get into people's heads especially.


I dont do it to get into peoples heads.

Huh, What???? :confused: :eek:

loden
08 May 2007, 12:04 PM
A command delivered with purpose and boldness is much better then screaming obscenities until you're blue in the face. You should be orchestrating your defenders,not distracting them.

Mud Dog
11 May 2007, 02:51 PM
I gotta agree, I find that kind of behavior unacceptable for a few reasons. One, in my leagues you WILL be carded for swearing whether it's at opponents or not. Two, it's just not necessary to swear, that's kind of juvenile even though i'm guilty of doing it too on occaision. Three, as a long time center back that would drive me nuts. I like having a vocal keeper who directs the defense and clues us in to threats we may or may not see (lot more important in indoor where we don't have the offsides rule). To have a keeper who just randomly yells things is counter productive because then we have to sort the random swearing from actual directions and proves to be more of a distraction to us than a detriment to opponents.

If you make a great save and want to just yell, cool, do it. But you also might be hurting yourself too in the eyes of potential coaches at higher levels for what could be seen as erratic behavior. Makes you more of a risk to recruit.

tscboys
12 May 2007, 11:02 PM
Most ref's don't see it as a problem if you cuss at yourself, or if you get a little knock. Last year at the southern regional tournament and the ball hit me hard enough in the sack of bowling balls that the parents on the sideline heard me screa the f word, not to mention the ref was 5 yards away from me..just try not to use it at other people and you should be good.

JOEnadinho
13 May 2007, 06:50 PM
I am really lucky to be playing the game of kings with gentlemen. The competitive fire burns within me to strive for excelence. I want to handle the ball like a master violinist playing the Stradivarius. I never play cheap, on or off the field. I don't need to belittle others to feel better, on or off the field. Except times when I nutmeg players for talking too much, just to get a reaction from others. All of the loud and rude people are trying to make up for their lack of brain and technical skills.

I actually enjoy playing with better players than myself, I like playing with people with great coordination, and fine motor skills, with fluid movement like a rolex watch. It's a shame seeing people getting hurt due to clumsiness.


Keep the beautiful game beautiful.

ALEX408
13 May 2007, 07:41 PM
What about this, don't cuss at all? Plus, what's the big deal in getting into a fight during a soccer game. I'm not sure why, but 65% a player wants to get in a fight with me , either because he says something to me or does a illegal action to me.