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reelmaad
01 May 2007, 05:43 PM
O the irony of it all :D

Micheal Owen left Liverpool because he wanted to win some CL titles.:D

This year liverpool could win their second CL title since Owen's left them......Owen is now at a team that doesn't even participate in the CL.:D

Kukilon
01 May 2007, 06:38 PM
O the irony of it all :D

Micheal Owen left Liverpool because he wanted to win some CL titles.:D

This year liverpool could win their second CL title since Owen's left them......Owen is now at a team that doesn't even participate in the CL.:D

That is what you get for having no heart.

Revelian
01 May 2007, 06:41 PM
O the irony of it all :D

Micheal Owen left Liverpool because he wanted to win some CL titles.:D

This year liverpool could win their second CL title since Owen's left them......Owen is now at a team that doesn't even participate in the CL.:D

I noticed that a long while back, as I'm sure have many others.

He then went to Newcastle, so that he could get enough first-team action to make the World Cup squad, broke his foot in a challenge with the England keeper, then ruptures his crucuate ligament in the first minute of his first game back, against Sweden, in the World Cup.

To win a tournament, like the World Cup, you need skill, determination, fitness, good tactics, and luck. Owen and England's luck ran out in 2006. I'm not saying we would have won the World Cup had Owen not been injured. I'm just saying that many England fans knew in their heart of hearts that Owen's injury was the blow that led many to lose belief in an England victory.

Revelian

CL_2004
01 May 2007, 06:49 PM
I see the irony.

:D

M
01 May 2007, 07:31 PM
To win a tournament, like the World Cup, you need skill, determination, fitness, good tactics, and luck. Owen and England's luck ran out in 2006. I'm not saying we would have won the World Cup had Owen not been injured. I'm just saying that many England fans knew in their heart of hearts that Owen's injury was the blow that led many to lose belief in an England victory.


Don't forget that Rooney also broke his foot prior to the finals. England winning the thing was always a long shot, but without those two fit and scoring goals, it really was a hopeless cause.

leg_breaker
01 May 2007, 07:34 PM
Owen is unlucky. In 2004, no-one in their wildest dreams could predict Liverpool getting anywhere near the European Cup. He went to a team which wouldn't play him because he's not Brazilian, then he had two terrible injuries.

reelmaad
01 May 2007, 08:16 PM
Owen is unlucky. In 2004, no-one in their wildest dreams could predict Liverpool getting anywhere near the European Cup..
Funny how it was exactly after Owen left it happen :D

He went to a team which wouldn't play him because he's not Brazilian

I wouldn't have play him over the brazilian either.....for the simple reason that brazilian had a better goal per minute strike-rate than him.
Brazilian.......goals in the low 20s.....
Spaniard.......less than 10.....
The Brit..........goals in the low teens.....he had 20 or so starts

oooo tough choice.

if anything him not playing had more to do with him not being spaniard than brazilian.



And lets not forget that the other Brit on the team started just about every game.

CL_2004
01 May 2007, 08:37 PM
Owen is unlucky. In 2004, no-one in their wildest dreams could predict Liverpool getting anywhere near the European Cup. He went to a team which wouldn't play him because he's not Brazilian, then he had two terrible injuries.

you sure that was the reason?

Antonio81
01 May 2007, 09:00 PM
Micheal Owen left Liverpool because he wanted to win some CL titles.:D
lol. And because he got greedy.

Owen is unlucky. In 2004, no-one in their wildest dreams could predict Liverpool getting anywhere near the European Cup. He went to a team which wouldn't play him because he's not Brazilian, then he had two terrible injuries.Why do English fans always complain that Rooney, Gascoigne, Owen, Lineker, etc. are not getting the recognition that Pele, Zico, Ronaldo, and Ronaldinho get just because they "aren't Brazilian?"

Excape Goat
01 May 2007, 09:53 PM
I'm just saying that many England fans knew in their heart of hearts that Owen's injury was the blow that led many to lose belief in an England victory.


Owen's injury before th start of WC Finals was the bigger blow. England's offense was not doing anything even before the Swedish match.

Teso Dos Bichos
01 May 2007, 10:12 PM
I wouldn't have play him over the brazilian either.....for the simple reason that brazilian had a better goal per minute strike-rate than him.
Brazilian.......goals in the low 20s.....
Spaniard.......less than 10.....
The Brit..........goals in the low teens.....he had 20 or so starts

oooo tough choice.

Owen had the highest goals per minute ratio. Despite that he was never given a fair chance.

Revelian
01 May 2007, 10:54 PM
Owen had the highest goals per minute ratio. Despite that he was never given a fair chance.

Very true.

Revelian

punkman
01 May 2007, 11:21 PM
owen is a great player but I think he not better than the "young" owen

M
02 May 2007, 12:54 AM
Owen had the highest goals per minute ratio. Despite that he was never given a fair chance.

Indeed, but you have to wonder why he went there in the first place when it was pretty obvious that Raul and Ronaldo were going to be ahead of him in the pecking order come what may. Seems to me Owen may two ill-advised transfers, both to Real in the first place and then, desperate for action prior to the WC, to a dysfunctional Newcastle United.

reelmaad
02 May 2007, 02:24 AM
Owen had the highest goals per minute ratio. Despite that he was never given a fair chance.

Bull.......he had the highest goal per minute......UNTIL....he began to start games regularly at the end of the season....infact he started in 12 of the last 14 games he played at RM......scoring 5 of his 13 goals
The more games he started the worst it got.....i guess thats one of the benefits of being a supersub....read em and weep.

R99......32 starts/2 subs......21 goals/2788 mintues.....a goal every 133 minutes

Owen....20 starts/16 subs........13 goals/1868 mintues.....a goal every 144 minutes

Raul..........31 starts/1 subs..........9 goals/2570 mintues..........a goal every 286 minutes

Revelian
02 May 2007, 02:44 AM
Indeed, but you have to wonder why he went there in the first place when it was pretty obvious that Raul and Ronaldo were going to be ahead of him in the pecking order come what may. Seems to me Owen may two ill-advised transfers, both to Real in the first place and then, desperate for action prior to the WC, to a dysfunctional Newcastle United.

I agree. Probably some money-grubbing whore of an agent.

Revelian

Excape Goat
02 May 2007, 02:45 AM
The goal raito was just a number that did not say much about performance. Owen was invisible when he started. Morientes was the one who should be complainting.

cooca
02 May 2007, 03:39 AM
Yeah the irony. It has been noticed long time ago. He's one hell of a bad luck.

billyireland
02 May 2007, 07:29 AM
Yeah the irony. It has been noticed long time ago. He's one hell of a bad luck.
Michael Owen: The reason for Real Madrid's failings over the last 5 years.

pookspur
02 May 2007, 09:41 PM
Michael Owen: The reason for Real Madrid's failings over the last 5 years.

that's letting beckham off a bit easy, isn't it?