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Timanfaya
06 May 2007, 06:02 PM
is the reference number your CUSTOMER REFERENCE NUMBER of your application?

Yep.

joeocchipinti
07 May 2007, 05:59 PM
hi everyone , this is officially my first post on something like this. I am an avid soccer fan who hails all the way from melbourne australia. Ive been to france 98 and i am quite intent on going to euro 2008 but i am aware that getting tickets to euro is like winning a lottery.

1. Can anyone advise what i would have to do to maximise my chances of obtaining tickets?
2. Is there another ticket phase after teams have been decided or when is the next phase ?
3. What are my chances of turning up to the event with a friend and trying my luck at obtaining tickets when i get there

Any help would be immensely appreciated as many of my friends i have asked dont know

migueldv
07 May 2007, 08:51 PM
There will be another ticket phase after teams have been decided (again lotery decision, because there will be many applicants).

Obtaining tickets when you get close to the competition is possible, but I don't advise you to go without tickets, because touts ask for a lot of money (way above what a football match should ever cost). It depends on what you are willing to pay for it, but I suggest you try to get them through the official applications of Euro 2008 (try with more than one person, your relatives data for example, to get more chances).

Good luck, Miguel Vieira

hi everyone , this is officially my first post on something like this. I am an avid soccer fan who hails all the way from melbourne australia. Ive been to france 98 and i am quite intent on going to euro 2008 but i am aware that getting tickets to euro is like winning a lottery.

1. Can anyone advise what i would have to do to maximise my chances of obtaining tickets?
2. Is there another ticket phase after teams have been decided or when is the next phase ?
3. What are my chances of turning up to the event with a friend and trying my luck at obtaining tickets when i get there

Any help would be immensely appreciated as many of my friends i have asked dont know

joeocchipinti
07 May 2007, 10:04 PM
There will be another ticket phase after teams have been decided (again lotery decision, because there will be many applicants).

Obtaining tickets when you get close to the competition is possible, but I don't advise you to go without tickets, because touts ask for a lot of money (way above what a football match should ever cost). It depends on what you are willing to pay for it, but I suggest you try to get them through the official applications of Euro 2008 (try with more than one person, your relatives data for example, to get more chances).

Good luck, Miguel Vieira


Thanks Miguel
Is there a link you can provide me? the only place i know to look is on the uefa website but they dont make any reference to a future date that this will occur, if they mention it then it is very vague. Do I just look on the website closer to the date of qualification or is there something i can do to stay proactive?
Thank you in advance

wombacik
08 May 2007, 01:21 AM
I know that's a little off topic, but only a little.

I'd like to asset the possibilities of finding out what team could be hidden behind all these A2, B3 or D4 on the tickets I was allocated. I know that it's a little bit to early to do it the proper way, but with every qualification game played all will become clearer.

Do you remember the exact dates of the previous EUROs final draw?

I'm trying to figure out what rules were applied to seed the teams in their respective baskets.

I'd like to do some archive newspapers reserch and those dates would really help me! :)

Torcida
08 May 2007, 01:29 AM
Has anyone received a confirmation from Uefa for a successfull Bank Transfer?

wombacik
08 May 2007, 03:26 AM
There will be another ticket phase after teams have been decided (again lotery decision, because there will be many applicants).


And your source of information is...? ;)

As far as UEFA informed there won't be any future public sales. National federations that will qualify will distibute their 19% of the capacity of stadiums applying their own rules. There might be open lotteries, they might be distributed among the members of some kind "supporters clubs" as well. But you must be the citizen of qualified country to apply.

The only other chance I see is that some people won't pay for their allocated tickets so the tichets would have to be allocated one more time. But this is something that we cannot be sure of until UEFA report about allocated and paid tickets.

migueldv
08 May 2007, 05:09 AM
Ok, in Euro 2004 I'm sure there were 4 phases:
1 - Lottery before the draw (like this one)
2 - First come first served with the leftovers from the draw
3 - Lottery after the draw
4 - First come first served with the tickets remaining (it continued untill weeks before the tournament, as some people that applied didn't pay for teh tickets, they became available again to fans in the official website)

Apart from the 4 phases you could try to apply to your National federation, but the method is different depending on the country (in Portugal was lottery as well for every fan that applied, in the Netherlands only members of the Supporters Club Orange could apply for tickets).

I've read somewhere in the beginning of this year that here it would be the same scheme, but since the first phase was such a success, they are thinking of skiping second phase (first come first served before the draw). For now, that's all I know and can share with you from my experience.

Hope this information has been helpful.

Take care, Miguel Vieira

And your source of information is...? ;)

As far as UEFA informed there won't be any future public sales. National federations that will qualify will distibute their 19% of the capacity of stadiums applying their own rules. There might be open lotteries, they might be distributed among the members of some kind "supporters clubs" as well. But you must be the citizen of qualified country to apply.

The only other chance I see is that some people won't pay for their allocated tickets so the tichets would have to be allocated one more time. But this is something that we cannot be sure of until UEFA report about allocated and paid tickets.

migueldv
08 May 2007, 05:12 AM
Last week I've posted a question with this subject (how can we know our payment was successful) through the official Euro 2008 website, but I'm still waiting for their response. When they reply to me, I'll spread the word :)

Take care, Miguel Vieira

Has anyone received a confirmation from Uefa for a successfull Bank Transfer?

wombacik
08 May 2007, 06:28 AM
Hope this information has been helpful.


Not really, because your previous post has something of desinformation in it. You gave guy the hope while there is no hope. ;-)

migueldv
08 May 2007, 08:00 AM
The Euro 2004 draw was on the 30th of November 2003! If you can find those rules that were applied to seed the teams in their respective baskets, that would be great, because I also tried to find that info but still with no success. I'm interested in getting to know that, so please send me that info if you manage to find it, ok?

Take care, Miguel Vieira


I know that's a little off topic, but only a little.

I'd like to asset the possibilities of finding out what team could be hidden behind all these A2, B3 or D4 on the tickets I was allocated. I know that it's a little bit to early to do it the proper way, but with every qualification game played all will become clearer.

Do you remember the exact dates of the previous EUROs final draw?

I'm trying to figure out what rules were applied to seed the teams in their respective baskets.

I'd like to do some archive newspapers reserch and those dates would really help me! :)

migueldv
08 May 2007, 08:05 AM
We'll see if there's a second lottery after the draw or not.. I bet that will happen! (a ticket to the final ? :))

Take care, Miguel Vieira

Not really, because your previous post has something of desinformation in it. You gave guy the hope while there is no hope. ;-)

Timanfaya
08 May 2007, 08:35 AM
...
I'd like to asset the possibilities of finding out what team could be hidden behind all these A2, B3 or D4 on the tickets I was allocated.

Assuming they don't change anything, then apart from A1 B1 C1 D1 there's no way to predict what the other teams will be.

As you know- A1 is Switzerland, B1 is Austria, C1 and D1 will be Greece (if they qualify) plus one top seeded team (or two), in random order.

In each group a second-seed, third-seed and fourth-seed, will be also be drawn, but randomly allocated to slot 2, 3, or 4.

wombacik
08 May 2007, 09:50 AM
Well, it depends. I did some assesments.

From my point of view which is based on hope that for the first time Poland would qualify :), it's rather impossible for Poland to be seeded in any other basket than 4. Since I was allocated the tickets for B4, C4 and D4 games, I assume my chances for my tickets conversion into Poland's game is 75%. ;)

migueldv
08 May 2007, 10:33 AM
I have the same idea as Timanfaya, but I want to confirm it (so wombacik, if you can find that info, please inform me / us).

I assume that because for example in the last Euro the groups were as follows (sorry, it's in Portuguese but I imagine you can guess most of them, and this is only to give an example that confirms our theory):

Grupo A - Portugal, Grécia, Espanha, Rússia
Grupo B - França, Inglaterra, Suíça, Croácia
Grupo C - Suécia, Bulgária, Dinamarca, Itália
Grupo D - R. Checa, Letónia, Alemanha, Holanda

So in pot 1 was Portugal (the host), France (the European Champion), but (against Timanfaya theory) there were no other top seeds - Sweden and Check Rep.

This way I assume that in the previous Euro there were only 2 fixed positions (1 for the host and 1 for the champion). All the other positions / pots were random (as mentioned, the second-seed, third-seed and fourth-seed pot teams, were also drawn, but randomly allocated to slot 2, 3, or 4). Example: Letland was in slot 2 and Italy in slot 4.

So wombacik, if this is true, unfortunately this could reduce your chances of getting Poland tickets, since it's a lucky shot if Poland goes to slot 4. I have the same problem with Portugal..

If someone else has more info on this, please share with the rest of us (Timanfaya, what were your sources when writing the previous message? Also previous experience? And wombacik, you've mentioned you've made some assessments, can you share your sources / links with that info?)

Thanks and take care, Miguel Vieira

Assuming they don't change anything, then apart from A1 B1 C1 D1 there's no way to predict what the other teams will be.

As you know- A1 is Switzerland, B1 is Austria, C1 and D1 will be Greece (if they qualify) plus one top seeded team (or two), in random order.

In each group a second-seed, third-seed and fourth-seed, will be also be drawn, but randomly allocated to slot 2, 3, or 4.

Timanfaya
08 May 2007, 12:05 PM
...Timanfaya, what were your sources when writing the previous message?..

I was working from memory re 2004. But, I've since found a page that shows the four pots: http://www.soccerphile.com/soccerphile/port2004/2004-seeds/euro2004-seeds.html

Portugal were pre-set into A1.

Sweden and Czech Republic were the top seeds and ended up in C1 and D1, France were drawn into B1.

The second seeds (Pot B) ended up in B2, C4, D3, A3.

etc.

migueldv
08 May 2007, 12:27 PM
Thanks Timanfaya! So it seems it's a lucky guess to try to get tickets to a specific slot (2, 3 or 4), because the only thing for sure is that in slot 1 will be Austria, Switzerland, Greece (if qualifies) and the best (or 2 best) teams in the qualifying campaigns (which is different than the regular top seeds..).

Take care, Miguel Vieira

I was working from memory re 2004. But, I've since found a page that shows the four pots: http://www.soccerphile.com/soccerphile/port2004/2004-seeds/euro2004-seeds.html

Portugal were pre-set into A1.

Sweden and Czech Republic were the top seeds and ended up in C1 and D1, France were drawn into B1.

The second seeds (Pot B) ended up in B2, C4, D3, A3.

etc.

Timanfaya
08 May 2007, 12:33 PM
...the only place i know to look is on the uefa website but they dont make any reference to a future date that this will occur, if they mention it then it is very vague. Do I just look on the website closer to the date of qualification or is there something i can do to stay proactive?

Subscribe to this thread! OK, so we're all so excited that we'll talk no end of rubbish between now and the opening match, but still if anything looks likely to be happening then the news will appear here pretty damn quick.

And if you spot anything that we don't know, post it!

wombacik
09 May 2007, 07:43 AM
You are right! Seeding is only to avoid the possibility of too early meeting between top teams. The rest is random.

Thanx!

Timanfaya
10 May 2007, 04:42 AM
...because the only thing for sure is that in slot 1 will be Austria, Switzerland, Greece (if qualifies) and the best (or 2 best) teams in the qualifying campaigns (which is different than the regular top seeds..).


That's right. In Portugal perhaps you weren't so interested in the seeds and pots for Euro 2004, but there was a bit more focus on it in England near the end of qualifying because it looked like the "teams to avoid" were going to be in Pot B. So we were hoping to end up in Pot B too, and we did. Not that it helped much, because we lost to France and a certain other team and we might have avoided both of them had we been in Pot A :)