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Hauler
18 Apr 2007, 03:12 PM
I feel imo that if keano leaves we wont finish lower then 10 place just because he is a wonderful striker and defoe doesn't have the same ability as keane. Keane is a striker who can create his own shots and get himself into a good position to score. It seems to me from videos and stuff that Defoe needs a berbs to take a lot of the attention which is good for any other striker so he can be useful. Defoe is just as good in the box as keane is but outside I don't feel he has the same moves keane does. Also experience is something that defoe lacks. They are both streaky players which means they can explode at any time while berbs is the constant so I feel that if we had both of them and can retain both we will be looking great upfront regardless of whom the 4th striker is going to be. I would also hate to see keane go he has done so much and he is a legend that puts plp in the stands which is good for business. If he goes we are going to have trouble replacing that kind of firepower in the lineup. The reason why defoe was looking good this year really good is cause berbs was delivering great balls over to his side.
I also dont want maurihino to come the team if he is available becuase I feel that jol has done the best he could with very little resources and if he gets sacked it would be a crime cause we should be in 10th with all the away losses we have had this year and all the injury's. Yet here we are fighting for a uefa cup spot so we can have a go again next year. Although I feel that the owner and jol need to come up with plan to bring in a great defender and if terry leaves what about him for a possible guy??

The Double
18 Apr 2007, 03:32 PM
A) I haven't heard anything about Robbie leaving. Link?
B)Defoe is hardly inexperienced.
C)Paragraphs are your friend.
D)Mourinho is not coming here.
E)Neither is John Terry.

Danners9
18 Apr 2007, 04:17 PM
A) I haven't heard anything about Robbie leaving. Link?
B)Defoe is hardly inexperienced.
C)Paragraphs are your friend.
D)Mourinho is not coming here.
E)Neither is John Terry.

But apart from that...


John Terry coming to Spurs is, sorry, laughable. Absolutely laughable. He is Chelsea captain, England captain, £120,000 a week wages and as much a part of the furniture as anyone can be at Chelsea.

He's also, actually, not a very good player. He's organised and committed, but football wise he is limited. If that makes sense, he's like Tony Adams was. Which is fine, and every team needs one.

Hauler
18 Apr 2007, 05:41 PM
A) I haven't heard anything about Robbie leaving. Link?
B)Defoe is hardly inexperienced.
C)Paragraphs are your friend.
D)Mourinho is not coming here.
E)Neither is John Terry.

First off there have been rumors of keane going to Aston Villa. Second Defoe hardly has as much experience as Robbie Keane. That is what I said please do not mix it up. John Terry is reworking his contract and is unhappy with the way it is being handled and all I was saying is it would be great if he came. Probably a trillion to one but still that is something to dream of. I have read someone saying that they wanted Mourinho to come here and I dont want that. Hope this clears up what I was talking about.

Hauler
18 Apr 2007, 05:48 PM
A) I haven't heard anything about Robbie leaving. Link?
B)Defoe is hardly inexperienced.
C)Paragraphs are your friend.
D)Mourinho is not coming here.
E)Neither is John Terry.

http://www.squarefootball.net/article/transfer.asp?tid=287
There is the link to speculation(rumor of transfer)

Aston Villa are prepared to offer Tottenham £8m plus striker Juan Pablo Angel for Robbie Keane

tomas_brolin
18 Apr 2007, 06:00 PM
i thought angel is most likely going to nyrb.. but i dont want him anyways... i think mido would be good as the 3rd striker if keane leaves.

but why would keane leave? i thought he loves the club?

and from what i read on the link.. this was posted in october of last year!

The Double
18 Apr 2007, 06:02 PM
That rumor is old, and Juan Pablo Angel is coming to the MLS.

Hauler
18 Apr 2007, 06:13 PM
FSC was talking about this on fox soccer report. They said that Aston was interested and the links I got were just talking about this possible move. As of Mar 4th 07 that was the rumor about the trade between Angel and Keane. So it wasnt that long ago and Aston is suppose to still make an attempt at keane at the next transfer window. That would really suck if Keane left.

Danners9
18 Apr 2007, 06:46 PM
Angel has gone, signed yesterday. They only talk about the rumour because Martin O'Neill is now manager and he was once Celtic manager too, Keane was linked to Celtic when he was there as well.

Hauler
18 Apr 2007, 10:47 PM
I saw he had been linked to celtic. But I would not rule out him leaving if we cant make uefa again.

DaeHaMinGuk
19 Apr 2007, 12:33 AM
Villa has been rumored for a while. I don't think we'd sell him to a potential rival like Villa, unless they are willing to pay something ridiculous like 15-20 mill pounds.

I don't see him leaving unless he hands in a transfer request, which I can't see happening. He's not quite good enough to start for the "big 4" and moving to Villa would be a lateral move. Perhaps Lerner is willing to pay huge wages for him.

Danners9
19 Apr 2007, 08:32 AM
I saw he had been linked to celtic. But I would not rule out him leaving if we cant make uefa again.

I would, he won't move unless he's forced out. He's been here for a long time now, one of the longest serving players at the club! He joined way before Spurs had european football, and it hasn't hurt his career - he is Ireland captain after all.

DigitalTron
19 Apr 2007, 10:12 AM
Every year there's talk about Keane moving. In part I think it's because he's moved so often in the past before he joined Spurs. Those moves all had reasons, and none of them were because of his attitude. But the perception is of him--much like Mido--being the type that moves often. IMHO, he's really found a home at WHL and as long as he's playing regularly ... at least a starter most of the time, he's going to be happy. I hope Keane stays at Spurs for the rest of his career, he's one of my favorite players because he literally never gives up.

Another reason he gets so much transfer talk is that he's one of the very best players in the Irish National Team and certainly their best forward. That's a very high profile position, sort of the Irish version of England's Wayne Rooney, though Keane's held that spot a lot longer than Rooney has. So, the media speculation will always be rampant ... it sells papers.

While I will admit that Rooney has surpassed Keane in quality, Keane is among the most effective of what I term the 2nd tier of forwards. If you put the recently departed Van Nistelrooy, Henry, Rooney, now probably Drogba and Berbatov, and a select handful of others as the very best forwards in the Premiership, that group could start anywhere in the world, for any club. After that, there's a bigger group of 2nd tier forwards that include the likes of Keane, Defoe, Crouch, Shevchenko (sad but true atm), Van Persie, Baptiste, etc. I rate Keane at the very top of that list of 2nd tier forwards. Unfortunately, none of the 2nd tier are guaranteed a starting spot at the biggest clubs. When their form dips, they get replaced--at least temporarily.

Keane typically goes through some slow periods early in the season. Even if he starts the season on a nice little streak, in the fall he's typically less productive than people expect. But he ramps it up and by the second half of the season he's typically on fire. Everyone has determined--based upon the first half of the season--who are the 'elite' forwards for that year, and usually by that time Keane's goal count is mediocre. But he makes a big push during the second half of the season and usually ends up fairly near the top of the goal scoring charts ... usually ahead of 2 or 3 of the people everyone has been oooohing and ahhhhhing about all year. On top of that, he's a very creative and unselfish player, so he creates a lot of scoring opportunities for his teammates.

IMHO, the only 2 things preventing Keane from breaking into the top tier of forwards, probably aren't going to change. Firstly, his accuracy is mediocre. He has plenty of power and puts himself into great positions so he gets plenty of shots ... but he misses so many shots completely off frame that people just don't think of him as 'elite.' Secondly, he's not usually a first-half of the season scorer, so he's well down the scoring charts early and his steady progression up the scoring charts tend to be undervalued since people only look at the totals, and he's not up with the best in totals until near the very end of the season. This might change with a different training regimen, who knows.

-Digital

Hauler
20 Apr 2007, 03:30 AM
Well I hope he doesnt leave cause of his ability and he is a likable star.

Miles Brasher
20 Apr 2007, 04:55 AM
John Terry is reworking his contract and is unhappy with the way it is being handled and all I was saying is it would be great if he came. Probably a trillion to one but still that is something to dream of.

You'll need him to replace King when you sell him ;)


Only joking !!

pookspur
20 Apr 2007, 01:41 PM
You'll need him to replace King when you sell him ;)


Only joking !!

well, if there is one upside of ledley's injury-laden season, that is it - nobody's likely to be making enough noise about buying king to be a bother. not that we'd sell anyway, but those type of rumors can be annoying.

something you fellas can feel good about regarding henry's year, as well. ;)

DigitalTron
20 Apr 2007, 01:48 PM
You'll need him to replace King when you sell him ;)


Only joking !!

Yeah, unfortunately I hear that King and Henry are going to be Wenger's first transfer targets when he takes over at Real Madrid.

Cheers, ;)

-Digital

dashiel
20 Apr 2007, 10:08 PM
I feel imo that if keano leaves we wont finish lower then 10 place just because he is a wonderful striker and defoe doesn't have the same ability as keane.

*thank you ignore list

Hauler
21 Apr 2007, 05:07 AM
*thank you ignore list

Like i said imo so take it how u want but I do feel Keane is better then defoe and if he leaves were losing a lot of firepower up front something that was keeping us afloat this year. Sorry u don't agree.

tapper
21 Apr 2007, 02:57 PM
Also experience is something that defoe lacks.

Second Defoe hardly has as much experience as Robbie Keane. That is what I said please do not mix it up.

Hmmmm...

When you read a transfer rumor and you want to post about it...stop...and ask yourself "does this make sense to me?"

Otherwise, you'll be posting hairbrained speculation just like this for the rest of eternity.

For instance "Robbie Keane will move to Villa for JP Angel and 8M". Sure...someone wrote that down and put it on the internet.

But Angel is heading to MLS, and he basically hasn't played this year. When last I checked, Levy isn't a mental patient, so this rumor must be absolute rubbish.

Or, "John Terry is thinking about moving on from Chelsea".

Again...ask yourself if this makes any sense. Who is going to pay him more than Chelsea? You know...Chelsea...the biggest spending club on the planet. (Okay, MAYBE Madrid spends almost as much). I guess he could go play in Japan for more money, but only if he wears curly hair extensions, gets a tan, some bigger teeth, and learns how to do nifty tricks with a football.

Certainly, if Chelsea is not offering him enough money, then Tottenham can not afford him. So, no, not a trillion to one. The chance is zero.

Keane and Defoe are dissimilar players. Keane far more creative, Defoe more single minded as a goalscorer. One might argue that a player like Berbatov needs a single minded goalscorer as his partner (and I would agree with that one in fact). Why? Because his nifty play and creativity is wasted if nobody is trying to get on the end of it.

Too many cooks in the kitchen. Someone has to eat the food, so to speak, that Berbatov and company create. I think Robbie Keane functions pretty well in that role, though he's better playing between the midfield and the target man, rather than on the shoulder of the last defender. I hope he stays to give us a different sort of option up front.

I'd prefer to see a forward of his caliber who was more focused on beating the offside trap, getting on the end of the chances Berbatov creates, and bulging the goal. Preferably someone taller than Defoe, who can also look to get on the end of a cross from Lennon or (hopefully) the left winger we buy this summer.