Euro 1980 Germany team

[squidward123]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=1YlrYXGErj0
http://youtube.com/watch?v=nZNxmmh9jjE&mode=related&search=

I just came across these cool (and rare) videos of the german side from 1980.

Anyone want to add any thoughts about this team?

I've had a chat with gregoriak about this team so I can act as g.o.d for the moment :D

[squidward123]

ok, so no one likes this team?

[Chris in SoCal]

ok, so no one likes this team?

A bit before my time, my friend. My first recollections of the Mannschaft were from the '86 WC. I've been a follower ever since. :D

thanks for the clips, btw.

[squidward123]

they were probably the 2nd best ever german team (says gregoriak so it's true).

had an awesome run from 79-81 and should not be confused with the 82 team.

schumacher

kaltz
KH forster
stielike
dietz

schuster
hansi muller
briegel

allofs
fischer
rummenigge

something similar to that..but there were lots of very good players on the bench so it wasn't always that team.

[squidward123]

did anyone notice that the belgian penalty was a foot or so outside the area? just like in 1996

[Gregoriak]

There was a lot of talent in this side. It is not rated nearly as highly as the 1972 team because it 1) was not quite as good and 2) they did not peak in the 1980 Euro, but in the 12 months period after that tournament. What really harmed the reputation of Germany from 1979 to 1981-82 was their 1982 World Cup performance (losing to Algeria, Austria game, Schumacher's foul vs. Battiston).

But this team was really loaded. Manni Kaltz, Toni Schumacher, Kalle Rummenigge, Felix Magath, Hans Müller, Klaus Allofs, Horst Hrubesch, Hans-Peter Briegel, Bernd Schuster, Karlheinz Förster etc. I don't know if there ever was a side with as many left-footed players as Germany in 1980 (Dietz, Allofs, Müller, Briegel, Magath, Memering).

Regarding them being the second best ever Germany side, I have to be more precise. The era 1979-1981 was pretty sharp, one cannot pin it down to just the 1980 Euro side, because they did not peak in that tournament (unlike the 1972 side). I would say that this 79-81 era was one of the best in Germany football history, up there with the early 1970s and the 1990 team.

Thanks for the clips!

[squidward123]

i found the clips by chance...there are virtually no clips of old german players around. If you search michel platini however, there's about 15

there were two other clips which were recent interviews with bernd schuster (about 6 mins each), but in spanish.

In the first of those clips they had the 2 holland goals which the clip i posted didn't show, and their penalty was due to a foul about 2 yards outside the box! just like against belgium.

PS. I also amazingly found a clip which had B/W highlights (unlike the dvd you sent me) of the 72 final and also a clip of the 5 minutes of the 1973 deutsch pokal final that preceded netzer's goal. Unfortunately bad quality. I don't think these were around a few months ago.

[squidward123]

By the way, the first goal in the euro80 final is the kind of goal that if brazil had scored it, we'd never be hearing the end of!

the goals against holland were pretty smooth too

[Gregoriak]

i found the clips by chance...there are virtually no clips of old german players around. If you search michel platini however, there's about 15

This is annoying me as well. It seems as if German football fans just are not very good at creating compilations of past players? There is probably no country that has so many books on various topics regarding the history of football, but really good video compilations are a real rarity. If you look at England, they have numerous compilations for clubs and players (some of them rather obscure for non-Brits), and these are mostly surperbly done. You just don't have comps like that in Germany. Almost no club dedicates a high-quality video/dvd release to their legendary players. Thus fans cannot put things up on youtube! The research that needs to be done in corporation with tv stations seems to be too laborious for them.

For instance, the "Franz Beckenbauer Story" could have used much much more grandiose footage of Kaiser Franz, but they would have had to research in which games he scored great goals or had great scenes. Example: in a 1970 kicker magazine, I stumbled across a Bayern Bundesliga game report and the headline read "this was Beckenbauer's greatest goal yet". They described how he solo'ed all over the pitch from box-to-box scoring a really majestical goal. But chances are that nobody ever will see this goal because it was scored in a random 1970 Bundesliga game and in order to make it available someone would have to contact the TV stations asking for the footage etc. Will not happen. There hundreds of examples for this. As long as there is no market for highlights compilations of legendary players in Germany, we will have to do without great youtube clips. If you watch "Cruyff Nr. 14" you see a far better approach to things like that. The researchers really put an effort in locating Cruyff's greatest goals while he played for Ajax. That's how it is done.

There could be so many badass compilations for German legends like Netzer, Overath, Rummenigge etc...

there were two other clips which were recent interviews with bernd schuster (about 6 mins each), but in spanish.

In the first of those clips they had the 2 holland goals which the clip i posted didn't show, and their penalty was due to a foul about 2 yards outside the box! just like against belgium.

Two bogus penalties against Germany in 1980 but we still won the games, Same in 1996 against the Czechs in the final.

PS. I also amazingly found a clip which had B/W highlights (unlike the dvd you sent me) of the 72 final and also a clip of the 5 minutes of the 1973 deutsch pokal final that preceded netzer's goal. Unfortunately bad quality. I don't think these were around a few months ago.

Unfortunately the 1973 quality is pretty low and the 1972 clip does not feature the sublime built-ups to the goals (the first goal in particular).

By the way, the first goal in the euro80 final is the kind of goal that if brazil had scored it, we'd never be hearing the end of!

Probably.

[squidward123]

The german goal would be described like this :

....showing the organisation that they are so reknowned for, schuster took the return pass and forged ahead, knocking the ball forward to horst hrubesch who bunted it forward on the full and efficiently smashed it past the keeper to open the scoring

:D

[dor02]

West Germany's Euro 80 squad would have to be one of the best Mannschaft sides post-Schoen. Better than the team that lost to Italy in the 1982 World Cup Final.

[squidward123]

yeah, maybe even better than 1990?

what do you think gregoriak?

[BongartzUndRivera]

they were probably the 2nd best ever german team (says gregoriak so it's true).

had an awesome run from 79-81 and should not be confused with the 82 team.

schumacher

kaltz
KH forster
stielike
dietz

schuster
hansi muller
briegel

allofs
fischer
rummenigge

something similar to that..but there were lots of very good players on the bench so it wasn't always that team.

Fischer was out with an injury for the EC80 and was reaplced by Hrubesh.

The "tastiest" line during that era for me was the line up was at a WC. Qualifier in 1981 against a strong Austria (with Krankl, Pezzy, Hattenberger, Jara, Konzilia) in which they've won 2-0.

Buckle up for this Mannschaft!

Harald Schumacher
Manfred Kaltz
Ulrich Stielike
Karlheinz Förster
Hans-Peter Briegel
Bernd Schuster
Paul Breitner
Felix Magath
Hans Müller
Karl-Heinz Rummenigge
Klaus Fischer

It was the returne of Breitner for Die Mannschaft, and the only full match (the other match was against Brazil, where Bernd had been subed out after first half) he played along Schuster.

[dor02]

Fischer was out with an injury for the EC80 and was reaplced by Hrubesh.

The "tastiest" line during that era for me was the line up was at a WC. Qualifier in 1981 against a strong Austria (with Krankl, Pezzy, Hattenberger, Jara, Konzilia) in which they've won 2-0.

Buckle up for this Mannschaft!

Harald Schumacher
Manfred Kaltz
Ulrich Stielike
Karlheinz Förster
Hans-Peter Briegel
Bernd Schuster
Paul Breitner
Felix Magath
Hans Müller
Karl-Heinz Rummenigge
Klaus Fischer

It was the returne of Breitner for Die Mannschaft, and the only full match (the other match was against Brazil, where Bernd had been subed out after first half) he played along Schuster.Did that line-up play in a 4-4-2 formation or 4-3-3 formation?

[BongartzUndRivera]

Did that line-up play in a 4-4-2 formation or 4-3-3 formation?

In that game they tried 4-4-2, but normally during that era they played 4-3-3 with having either Allofs on the left and Rummenigge on the right, or Littbarski on the right and Rummenigge on the left.

The '72~74 West Germany team also once tried something similar combining Overath & Netzer at a friendlies before the WM74 against Italy in Rome with a 4-4-2 formation.

The Line-up was like this:

Sepp Maier

Horst-Dieter Höttges
Paul Breitner
Franz Beckenbauer
Georg Schwarzenbeck

Bernhard Cullmann
Günter Netzer
Wolfgang Overath
Ulrich Hoeneß

Gerd Müller
Jupp Heynckes

[Gregoriak]

Here is a Spanish report on Bernd Schuster's early years with Cologne and the German national team. It features all goals Germany scored in the 1980 Euro as well as the goals from the legendary 1979 European Cup semi final between Nottingham Forest and Cologne.

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[squidward123]

yup i watched that

don't understand a word though

[squidward123]

here is part 2:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69qyxLSQNzM


Same thing for paul breitner

http://youtube.com/watch?v=eXxwnVJ3bH0&mode=related&search=
http://youtube.com/watch?v=-JJ7wGGr1bI&mode=related&search=

[braine]

they were probably the 2nd best ever german team (says gregoriak so it's true).

had an awesome run from 79-81 and should not be confused with the 82 team.

schumacher

kaltz
KH forster
stielike
dietz

schuster
hansi muller
briegel

allofs
fischer
rummenigge

something similar to that..but there were lots of very good players on the bench so it wasn't always that team.

Yeah,many good players on the bench on that tournament for the Germans...
Felix Magath,Bernd Schuster,Bernd Cullmann and Lothar Matthaus (age 19)!!
I remind that they play outstanding in the first half against us Belgians...
We needed a lot of faults to stop the German fury !
Later in the second half we came better in the game...
When everyone is thinking on extra times,the 'buffalo' Horst Hrubesch head the ball behind Jean-Marie Pfaff(BTW;he replaced Klaus Fischer=injury).
Notice that the ball 'just' got behind the wrong side of the cornerflag :rolleyes: ,so they got a corner instead of a threw-in...
The 'penalty' was indeed NOT inside the 16meter-area...(I should say freekick and a red card,coz the defender was the last one to stop Swat Van der Elst !)
But to come back on the topic;
Yes,this was great German side !!
And nice to watch with many offensive players in the XI .
The elegant,technical good Hansi Muller,Schuster,Rummenigge,Klaus Allofs and forward Hrubesch (All offensive players !)
This team was almost the same as in 1982 except that Breitner replaced Schuster (what a shame they didnt play together in one team),Littbarski came in for Hansi Muller,Dremmler for Dietz,and Fischer for Hrubesch(used as sub).
BTW. This was the XI-team of the tournament (selected by UEFA)
1. Zoff
2. Gentile
3. K.H.Forster
4. Scirea
5. Briegel
6. Tardelli
7. Schuster
8. Hansi Muller
9. Ceulemans
10 K.H.Rummenigge
11 Hrubesch

SIX (!) players of the XI-team are Germans !!!

P.S. We had also a great team (Pfaff-Gerets-Van Moer-Vandereycken-'Swat' Van der Elst*-Ceulemans)
European golden boot '80 (with 39goals in 34games) Erwin Vandenbergh was only used as a sub by coach Guy Thijs...

* François or Swat Van der Elst ,older bro of Leo .(Leo plays in WC'86 as a sub for Belgium).
and NO family of Franky Vanderelst the midfielder from the late eighties-nineties...

[braine]

[QUOTE=braine;11675232]Yeah,many good players on the bench on that tournament for the Germans...
Felix Magath,Bernd Schuster,Bernd Cullmann and Lothar Matthaus (age 19)!!
I remind that they play outstanding in the first half against us Belgians...

OOPS ; ERROR ! Not Bernd Schuster ,but Bernd Forster of course...(as good sub)