View Full Version : running is... bad?
guado
04 Apr 2007, 06:49 PM
today i was talking to one of my older co-workers about how i want to start running and get in shape to play JC ball in the fall.
he was telling me to be careful how much i do, because he used to run a lot until he got severe pain in his shins , which was caused by fluid build up in his knees.
it might because he was getting older and he ran a lot when he was younger and in teh military, but i remember a lot of cross country getting shin splints because all they did was... run.
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basically what it boils down to is me having injury problems before (ankles and feet) and with bad knees running in the family, i don't want to risk anything.
i also haven't played a complete season since i was 13 years old, so i would really like to be in shape and not add to my list of injuries.
can anyone help me out?>
EJDad
04 Apr 2007, 07:45 PM
Are you completely out of shape? Can you run a mile or so?
If yes-do less distance running and more interval running. Alternate jogging, sprinting (full pace, 3/4 pace,1/2 pace). You can do this on a track, around a field or run on the road using light posts or telephone poles ( jog from pole A to pole B, 1/2 speed sprint B to C, full speed from C to D jog from D to E) You get the idea.
This is more what the game is like and will get you in shape to play with less pounding. Once you have a base of fitness putting on a lot of miles is not going to help your soccer game much.
Also- get a good pair of running shoes and pay attention to the surface you run on. Hard = pounding=likelihood of shin splints/sore knees
guado
04 Apr 2007, 07:56 PM
i'm not completely out of shape, but nowhere near where i want to be when tryouts - no - conditioning starts.
i want to in somewhat good shape when conditioning starts, so that way i'm not blown out of the water when it does.
ALEX408
04 Apr 2007, 09:17 PM
Well a friend of mine was trying out for a team that plays State Cup. And he had to try out for a week, and every day for 4 hours, run. 2-3 hours was just running/sprinting. And the last hour was drills and what not. Well on the final day of the tryout, he went to a doctor because he had some pain in his leg. The doc said he got some kind of physical problem from the running. It was some kind of ball and he had to get surgery on it. And he hasn't played in about 1 year because of that surgery. And on the last day of the tryout, the coach of the team said he could join but my friend told him why he couldn't join. Personally, I prefer ball control/touch instead of running and conditioning. Here's a good example that has the same preferences. Ronaldo, he's a heavy, but has good ball control. :eek:
Dr.Phil
04 Apr 2007, 09:20 PM
The pain in his shins could be from running in bad shoes, hard surfaces, and not stretching or warming up correctly
If you do this running should not be a problem
thurd
04 Apr 2007, 09:21 PM
today i was talking to one of my older co-workers about how i want to start running and get in shape to play JC ball in the fall.
he was telling me to be careful how much i do, because he used to run a lot until he got severe pain in his shins , which was caused by fluid build up in his knees.
it might because he was getting older and he ran a lot when he was younger and in teh military, but i remember a lot of cross country getting shin splints because all they did was... run.
***********************
basically what it boils down to is me having injury problems before (ankles and feet) and with bad knees running in the family, i don't want to risk anything.
i also haven't played a complete season since i was 13 years old, so i would really like to be in shape and not add to my list of injuries.
can anyone help me out?>
Try running bare foot on grass/field turf whenever possible. Shoes are not good for your feet.
guado
04 Apr 2007, 09:23 PM
Well a friend of mine was trying out for a team that plays State Cup. And he had to try out for a week, and every day for 4 hours, run. 2-3 hours was just running/sprinting. And the last hour was drills and what not. Well on the final day of the tryout, he went to a doctor because he had some pain in his leg. The doc said he got some kind of physical problem from the running. It was some kind of ball and he had to get surgery on it. And he hasn't played in about 1 year because of that surgery. And on the last day of the tryout, the coach of the team said he could join but my friend told him why he couldn't join. Personally, I prefer ball control/touch instead of running and conditioning. Here's a good example that has the same preferences. Ronaldo, he's a heavy, but has good ball control. :eek:
you need conditioning.
even if you're not the fastest guy, you need to be able to play without getting too tired too often.
ALEX408
04 Apr 2007, 09:24 PM
you need conditioning.
even if you're not the fastest guy, you need to be able to play without getting too tired too often.
Just take it on the conditioning. Go those training mill things.
vanity_soccer13
04 Apr 2007, 09:39 PM
I wouldn't always run the same type of distance, or just long distance. And I wouldn't run every single day. I usually run 2 days of long distance(4 miles or more), 2 days of fast pace running(2-3 miles) and a day of intervals on the track(30-60 minutes) during the week. I can't I have any physical problems from this, and during match play I'd say I'm in better shape than 90% of everyone.
no aches, no pains, no doctor visits.
and if you're looking for a good pair of running shoes, I'd recommend anything from Asics. I use the Gel Kayano, best running shoes I've ever worn. They'll run you about $135, but you can usually nab them off eastbay from $60-100.
Dr.Phil
04 Apr 2007, 09:43 PM
If you want to get in shape for soccer you should be running at a fast pace then at a jog.
For example if your running at a track you should be running for a 100m then jog the other 100m and so on.
Soccer is about being able to do that sprint at the 89 min and is full of different speeds rather then one speed
guado
04 Apr 2007, 10:01 PM
doing this is new to me, because i haven't been this inactive for a while, and then needing to get in shape ASAP.
wow.
i dug myself a hole.
angusmcpresley
06 Apr 2007, 08:13 AM
If I might suggest... Stop running. Start riding your bike, or doing some sort of low-impact workout for your conditioning. I've even taken my bike to practice before, and did a hard bike sprint while the rest of the team was running around the pitch.
You can still do the drills and such, but for the parts that are just conditioning, there's no point in jarring your legs so much.
Dr.Phil
07 Apr 2007, 01:31 AM
If you do some kind of Sprint Endurance it will get you in shape and you will be fine
what a goal!
07 Apr 2007, 03:58 AM
today i was talking to one of my older co-workers about how i want to start running and get in shape to play JC ball in the fall.
he was telling me to be careful how much i do, because he used to run a lot until he got severe pain in his shins , which was caused by fluid build up in his knees.
it might because he was getting older and he ran a lot when he was younger and in teh military, but i remember a lot of cross country getting shin splints because all they did was... run.
***********************
basically what it boils down to is me having injury problems before (ankles and feet) and with bad knees running in the family, i don't want to risk anything.
i also haven't played a complete season since i was 13 years old, so i would really like to be in shape and not add to my list of injuries.
can anyone help me out?>
Running is good for you. Just don't go running on concrete or on hard grounds.
MisplacedSpainard
07 Apr 2007, 09:58 AM
yeah hes right biking works, have you tried rowing its what i do since i have knees that are somewhat weak or get achy easy.
Skaog
07 Apr 2007, 01:47 PM
Biking is great, if you are fitted for your bike it will never cause you knee pain. Running can hurt you knees, but so does soccer. so if you dont want bad knees when your older dont play soccer.
dethfire
10 Apr 2007, 11:40 AM
i stay active all year round, but I still get bouts of shin splints. I don't understand how it happens. I can't seem to train more than twice a week. It's frustrating.
Dr.Phil
10 Apr 2007, 11:51 AM
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/shin-splints/DS00271/DSECTION=3
Causes
Shin splints are caused by an overload on the shinbone and the connective tissues that attach your muscles to the bone. The overload is often caused by specific athletic activities, such as:
* Running downhill
* Running on a slanted or tilted surface
* Running in worn-out footwear
* Engaging in sports with frequent starts and stops, such as basketball and tennis
Shin splints can also be caused by training too hard, too fast or for too long
servotron
11 Apr 2007, 12:30 AM
i stay active all year round, but I still get bouts of shin splints. I don't understand how it happens. I can't seem to train more than twice a week. It's frustrating.
I used to have shin splints, and I will give you the complete answer, free of charge :)
One of a few things:
1) Lose a little weight.... never hurts.
2) Use compression sleeves on whichever shin/calf is giving you problems. This takes care of 50% or more of the pain immediately and cheaply.
3) STRENGTHEN YOUR CALVES. Once your legs are strong enough you'll not get splints again regardless of the surface you're playing on.
guado
11 Apr 2007, 02:07 AM
i've decided to do some running, but around a park , on grass, instead of around a track nearby my house.
well, the track also has a field, so i can run along the outside of the field on teh grass.
hopefully i can get in shape, since i get tired too quick