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[Matt Clark]

Well yeah. Getting kicked in the head is better than getting kicked in the knackers too. Just. ;)

[Matt Clark]

http://images.icnetwork.co.uk/upl/icliverpool/jun2004/2/6/000CB1E2-00B3-10D0-93B380BFB6FA0000.jpg

********ing hell, that's the worst kit we've had since that green thing in the mid-90's. In fact, it's worse than that. I honestly can not see a single person buying and wearing that kit. It's shockingly awful.

[Matt Clark]

REDS SET TO UNVEIL NEW BOSS
Steve Hunter 16 June 2004

"A news conference has been called at Anfield on Wednesday at 3.30pm where
Liverpool Football Club will unveil the new manager. More details including an exclusive interview with the new manager coming soon on Liverpoolfc.tv"

[Lanky134]

http://images.icnetwork.co.uk/upl/icliverpool/jun2004/2/6/000CB1E2-00B3-10D0-93B380BFB6FA0000.jpg

********ing hell, that's the worst kit we've had since that green thing in the mid-90's. In fact, it's worse than that. I honestly can not see a single person buying and wearing that kit. It's shockingly awful.

The last adidas away kit was the same color. Absolutely dreadful.

Even if I continue supporting the club, I will not buy that kit.

[Suss]

That is the ugliest kit I've ever seen. What was Reebock thinking?

[laytonbaker]

Now prospects may not want to come to Liverpool. New kits might as well be big bird costumes.

[jtowns3]

Why?! That's all i want to know is WHY!? Horrid kit! it must be smitten! :eek:

[Twenty26Six]

When did Michael Owen sign with Aston Villa?

[musicl]

Liverpool have called a press conference at Anfield for 3pm to make a major announcement.

http://www.4thegame.com/club.d/lfc/news/157093

Are you guys worried???

[musicl]

Got rummors on what the press conference is about -
1.Gerrerd is staying.
2.Gerrerd is leaving.
3.Owen is staying.
4.Cisse unviled.
5.Bentez resigns.

[Lanky134]

Got rummors on what the press conference is about -
1.Gerrerd is staying.
2.Gerrerd is leaving.
3.Owen is staying.
4.Cisse unviled.
5.Bentez resigns.

Or:

6. Thai deal sealed.
7. Thai deal rejected.

[USsupport]

Got rummors on what the press conference is about -
1.Gerrerd is staying.
2.Gerrerd is leaving.
3.Owen is staying.
4.Cisse unviled.
5.Bentez resigns.

McManaman signs for Liverpool.
Gerrard to Chelsea.
Owen to Man Utd - straight swap for Forlan.
Heskey signed by Benitez for $15M.

[Lanky134]

If Gerrard had been sold, wouldn't Chelsea be calling the press conference first? Why would a team call a press conference to give bad news?

[USsupport]

If Gerrard had been sold, wouldn't Chelsea be calling the press conference first? Why would a team call a press conference to give bad news?

to quell the riots in the Red part of Liverpool.
;)

[Matt Clark]

http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/images4/raffaandcisse19.jpg

********ing IS right!

[Matt Clark]

Marketing Week July 22 2004

Glare of The Sun puts its olive branch in the shade

The Sun's apology over Hillsborough is little more than a stunt to woo readers
in the South. Jingoism, hatred and racism are its core values. By Sean Brierley.

Henry Mencken, the US journalist, once said: "Conscience is the inner voice
that warns us that someone might be looking." Two weeks ago The Sun newspaper
appeared to have a fit of conscience: it ran a front-page apology for the
libel it committed against Liverpool football fans in April 1989, when it
had claimed that they had robbed and urinated on the bodies of the victims
of the Hillsborough disaster.

The consequence of the Hillsborough debacle has been one of the longest
running and most successful brand boycotts in marketing history. The newspaper
is still popularly referred to as "The Scum" on the streets of Liverpool
today.

The reason for this was not that The Sun ran the story - the Daily Star
ran it too; it was the vicious nature of its attack and the fact that for
several days it kept the story running despite overwhelming evidence that
it was untrue. The people of Liverpool justifiably saw the attack as a revelation
of a deeper, real hatred for them. Although the Sun apologised several days
later, the damage had been done.

The funniest aspect of the latest "apology? was the wimpish attempt by editor
Rebekah Wade to blame former editor Kelvin MacKenzie. While MacKenzie was
undeniably responsible for the Hillsborough coverage - he personally wrote
the most offensive headlines- The Sun's management at the time took no action
against him. In fact, Rupert Murdoch later promoted him to Sky television
managing director in 1994.

As with the disaster itself, no one at The Sun was held accountable. Merseysiders
correctly interpreted no action being taken as a signal that the newspaper's
management did not regard them as important.

In stark contrast, this year the daily Mirror could have faced a boycott
over the fake pictures of British soldiers beating Iraqi prisoners. Yet
it didn't, because the management acted decisively and demonstrably by sacking
Piers Morgan and apologising unreservedly.

But this is much more than an issue about executive responsibility. It gets
to the heart of what is actually a branding issue. The reason why MacKenzie
was not sacked was because he was merely adhering to his newspaper's own
brand values, as he had been for a number of years. Or, as The Sun might
say "It weren't MacKenzie wot fu**ed it up, it woz the brand."

The Sun's latest apology was aimed not at Scousers, but at its real heartland:
the South-east. It has been rightly interpreted by many in Liverpool as
a thinly veiled attempt to advertise the fact that it had secured Wayne
Rooney's autobiography. At the same time, it took a pop at Liverpudlians
for sustaining their boycott of the newspaper for 15 years, adding further
insult to injury with the cheap claim that the city's negative reaction
to the Sun-Rooney tie-up had whipped up by the local newspapers owned by
commercial rival Trinity Mirror. The direct implication was that the feelings
against The Sun were misguided, dubious and insincere.

Hillsborough exposed the myth that The Sun is a "national" newspaper. The
"Currant Bun" (the Mockney nickname it gives itself) is the bible of the
white-flight belt of Essex, Hertfordshire, Kent and Surrey. Its stock-in-trade
is tribalism and a dark-age morality based on kinship and vendetta. But
its racist, flag-waving jingoism accurately reflects the values of its core
readership.

It has made fanaticism its core brand value: from humiliating big bore contestants,
celebrities and Swiss referees to rabid rantings against foreigners in general.
The Sun has turned this form of mob hatred into its central brand value.

Throughout its history it has demonised defenceless targets: the unemployed
and single mothers in the seventies and eighties; refugees today. The references
to the World Wars during major football tournaments are, in part, responsible
for the rise in hooliganism that we saw in Charleroi and more recently in
the Algarve. In typical fashion, the very football hooligans it helps to
create it later brands as "scum".

The vicious attacks on Liverpudlians was merely a logical extension of its
hate-filled South-eastern core brand values. But in spite of these deep-seated
brand problems all is not lost. For purely commercial reasons, if not for
ones of conscience, The Sun's management could repair some of the damage
on Merseyside.

The families of the 96 victims of the Hillsborough disaster have had no
justice. The senior police officers responsible for opening the gates at
the Leppings lane end have escaped justice and the families of the victims
have never been compensated.

If Wade campaigned for justice for the Hillsborough 96, she might be able
to rebuild the newspaper's reputation and prove her Liverpool detractors,
and Mencken wrong.

Sean Brierley is a former deputy editor of Marketing Week and author of
the Advertising Handbook.

[Twenty26Six]

Is there any more reading material that can be found about the "South-Eastern" part of England and it's social values?

Is white-flight a reference to superior economic status or a racist thing?

[Matt Clark]

I should imagine Google should be fairly helpful. Try adding "Thatcher" to your search string.

"White flight" is the process of white people moving out of London boroughs as their prosperity increased in the late 1980's and heading out into the satellite towns of Essex and Kent. The reason it's specifically referred to as an issue of colour is that the remaining populations of those inner-London boroughs were subsequently mainly of ethnic origin.

[Lanky134]

I should imagine Google should be fairly helpful. Try adding "Thatcher" to your search string.

"White flight" is the process of white people moving out of London boroughs as their prosperity increased in the late 1980's and heading out into the satellite towns of Essex and Kent. The reason it's specifically referred to as an issue of colour is that the remaining populations of those inner-London boroughs were subsequently mainly of ethnic origin.
White Flight isn't endemic to London. It was very common all over American cities in the 60s and 70s, and a prime contributor to the Malling of America.

[Lanky134]

Vignal loaned to Rangers. (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/headlinenews?id=305727&cc=5901)