View Full Version : C2007 Game 12: Atlante v UNAM
Disco Dale
24 Mar 2007, 07:46 PM
Deeply disappointed, I cannot go...
Obviously Palencia, Castro and Veron on International duty, and Chupa and Bernal still out, Ailton set to play, but probably as sub.
Guess we will see:-
--------------------------RoRo----------------
--Espinosa----Moreno-----Pikolin------Velarde--
--Pareja------Sancho-----Leandro----Chiapas-- (maybe Ailton)
----------Gonzalez--------------Scocco-------
Was hoping to see that duo up front, will be interesting to see how it looks.
Confident of a win here - we need it, if we want to ge tinto the liguilla
franco
24 Mar 2007, 09:04 PM
hope to come victorious tonite disco...will see the second half and hope the duo ailton-pareja come up big for us on the wings...obviously if ailton starts but i dont expect too much from him if he plays since he is returning from an injury...:cool:
hot in mexico, like 90 today and cant wait for semana santa to begin:)
riverplate
24 Mar 2007, 09:07 PM
--------------------RoRo----------------------
--Espinosa----Moreno-----Pikolin------Velarde--
--Pareja------Sancho-----Leandro----Chiapas--
--------Gonzalez--------------Scocco---------
Palacios and Alex Diego out there instead of Moreno and Pikolin.
franco
24 Mar 2007, 09:35 PM
Palacios and Alex Diego out there instead of Moreno and Pikolin.
hows the game going so far riverplate?...is our team under attack or attacking?...is ailton even in the bench?...does it look like is gonna be a draw or what?...:confused:
riverplate
24 Mar 2007, 09:47 PM
We should be ahead. Ariel Gonzalez had a goal taken from him by Daniel Alcántar. Alcántar got a foot on the ball right in front of the net and managed to clear it a second before Gonzalez would have put it in. A lot of the action has been in front of Atlante's' net. We have to finish.
franco
24 Mar 2007, 09:55 PM
We should be ahead. Ariel Gonzalez had a goal taken from him by Daniel Alcántar. Alcántar got a foot on the ball right in front of the net and managed to clear it a second before Gonzalez would have put it in. A lot of the action has been in front of Atlante's' net. We have to finish.
...thanks for the update dude...we sure have to finish our scoring chances...hope to have better luck on the second...
...heading up to see the second right now...
...i am out...:cool:
riverplate
24 Mar 2007, 10:23 PM
Pareja puts Pumas on top right at the start of the second half with a header from a rebound off Vilar, who had just stopped Scocco.
riverplate
24 Mar 2007, 10:44 PM
Pumas down to 10 men as Ariel Gonzalez is handed two quick yellows for being sluggish about leaving the field for a sub.
riverplate
24 Mar 2007, 10:54 PM
Leandero blows a penalty by shooting wide!
riverplate
24 Mar 2007, 10:57 PM
Atlante ties it on an Adalberto Robles header.
riverplate
24 Mar 2007, 11:00 PM
1-1 final. Two f***ing points blown tonight.
Disco Dale
24 Mar 2007, 11:13 PM
I thought it was a bright and enjoyable game, but once again we lose 2 points, by a combination of bad subs by Tuca and bad refereering...
Sancho had a great game overall, including a fine long shot first half well saved. Was very pleased with both Espinosa and Diego. Pareja did some good work, as did Scocco.
Gonzalez showed us, especially with the goal, buit also elswhere, what he gives us, but Paco doesn't.
Íñiguez for Alex Diego was weird. I was surprised to see Diego in covering Veron, but he was very good there. The change confused our shape a lot, and we lost our way for a long tme after.
At 1-0 and crusing, taking Scocco ang Gonzalez off may have seemed a good idea, but I wasn't 100% convinced about taking them both off. Delgadillo had had an excellent game overall, but, like many a Mexican ref, he got a bee in his bonnet. It was timewasting, RoRo had been booked for it not long after we had scored - that was not a good decision.
When the Gonzalez sub was declared, he got booked straight away for timewasting! he then walked off (not running, but no that slowly either - we were still well on top), he was given a second yellow. Not just bad refereeing, but stupid as well, as it led to longer delays.
When a clear goal-bound shot was handled in the area (no card at all!!) Our penalty taker had been taken off, and leandro skimmed the post.
Another couple of great oppotunities were wasted by Íñiguez, before Robles scored a well taken equaliser.
So, all in all, one stupid decision, and some stupid substitions lost us the win.
I am a little annoyed by it all.....
riverplate
25 Mar 2007, 01:09 PM
Okay, a little video file here for those who may have missed some of the game...
First, Parejita's goal. Next, the controversial red carding of Ariel Gonzalez. Finally, at the end of the game, an angry Ricardo Ferretti charging out onto the field.
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Dos Equis
25 Mar 2007, 01:53 PM
Didn't get to watch the game :mad: and like most of you i was expecting the 3 points.
My random comments on what I saw:
Liguilla aspirations? not if we keep playing like this. Its been a consistent problem for us, not being able to finish. And this has been going on since when? 04 after Kikin left? Sounds about right. And we have gone through a lot of strikers and none have really produced results: Marioni, Cardetti, Reinaldo, de Nigris, Victorino, etc. Scocco has looked good but hes not very consistent. Chupa is also decent but wont solve our problem. Paco hasn't really impressed either:mad:
14 second gol for Pareja, very nice
Ariel's double yellow is a reflection of how bad the reffing is in our league
I'm pretty sure Atlante doesnt have any internationals on their team, did that have any effect on us?
Disco Dale
25 Mar 2007, 06:25 PM
Tuca was coming on to stop his players getting into bother, Sancho particulalry could have got a red, if he hadn't dragged him away.
Ariel's double yellow is a reflection of how bad the reffing is in our league
Glad its you saying that, not me... shocking and appalling, and just bad refereering, which is a shame, cos I thought the ref had been pretty good throughout... but once again we can see a bad decision clearly having an affect on the result...
although we should have bagged more, but we shouldn't be too harsh on Leandro, he doesn't take penalties, does he? I think all of Tuca's changes were ill-thought out, and each one made us look worse....
Rafael Hernandez
25 Mar 2007, 08:44 PM
This will be the game we will look back on if we blow the season (which really looks likely).
John Jagou
26 Mar 2007, 10:59 AM
I turned it on just in time to watch the last 5 minutes. So I willingly take the blame for everything that happened.
Pumas only needs 3 points from the last 5 games to avoid relegation, and I think it is safe to say 8-10 points will earn at least a repechaje birth.
Disco Dale
26 Mar 2007, 03:33 PM
Not sure this is the ONE which blew it - look at Necaxa, Queretaro as well before this - just throwing away "easy" win games....
Rafael Hernandez
26 Mar 2007, 04:30 PM
Not sure this is the ONE which blew it - look at Necaxa, Queretaro as well before this - just throwing away "easy" win games....
They may have been easy but we lost the win here in the 92 minute after blowing a PK and a wide open goal. I stand by my statement.
Disco Dale
26 Mar 2007, 08:29 PM
They may have been easy but we lost the win here in the 92 minute after blowing a PK and a wide open goal. I stand by my statement.
... put like that .... hard to argue with! - yeah, it was a great opportunity to get back to winning ways, and blew it.... i guess you are right ....