adult leagues

[jmeissen0]

Originally posted by panicfc


Depends on the division, but most have to work the next day, so they don't allow slide tackles.

oh i didn't necessarily mean slide tackles... i don't need to do that to break someone

[jmeissen0]

Originally posted by panicfc


Fixed it.

yeah, i thought he had been too


thanks for confirming my suspicions

[Bonnie Lass]

Originally posted by pething101
Redcard, i have friends that play in a co rec league in North Raleigh that is pretty decent I think. Will have to email him to see what league.

Sounds good. Thank you!

Of course, in all my snobbery, I still need to get back in shape. :D

But having something to get in shape for would most definately help.

[Richie]

There are a lot of competive leagues in NYC.

The Cosmopolitian Soccer league, The Helenic league, the Italian league, the Spanish league and the Northeast Super div none are for begining players.

Biggest problem we have is not finding players. It is not even finding players that have played all their lives it is finding fit players that can be effective most of the game if they pace themselves.

On injuries get your fitness together you will have less injury problems. Also the less you hold the ball the less injuries you will have.

[Hitman]

I play in Dallas in the North Texas Premier Soccer Association...

It is the largest adults men's league in the USA..

over 200 teams, 13 Open division, 5 over 30, 4 over 40 and an over50 division.

From my experiece, the quality of the league will be determined by those that run the league.

How the league handles players who receive red cards, players in violent situations, referee abuse and overall following the rules -- will determine the quality of the league.

Adult soccer can be the best fun, but it can also be an exercise in frustration.

[panicfc]

This is a true story...

This year a team missed the deadline for registration. They had been a long time participant, but had a record for late registration and other problems. The league has slots for 24 teams, and had the schedule drawn up, posted on the website.

They filed an injunction the day before the first game to keep the league from playing without them. They actually had a judge rule in their favor. This forced the league to draw up a new schedule in less than 14 hours, notify all the team captains, and then players and caused a great deal of work Only the fine lawyers from US Soccer (actually one of the registered players is a lawyer and represented the league) had the ruling reversed and their registration null and void.

Needless to say it caused a great deal of turmoil and grief. The question is will they register a team on time next season, and what will be the reaction of the other members of the league and the volunteers who run the league.

[jmeissen0]

i would come up with a technicality to drop them like bitches the next year

[panicfc]

Originally posted by jmeissen0
i would come up with a technicality to drop them like bitches the next year

I will forward your thoughts to the league officials "drop like bitches"

That's a good line.

[jmeissen0]

thanks

[empennage]

Last year I played in a recreational league, and I saw more injuries in the 12 games during the season than I've seen in my entire life (I'm still in college so this was my first adult league experience). I saw one chick's leg just give away when going for a non-violent 50-50 ball as well as many other injuries. I'm sure you guys have lots of other horror stories as well.

[jmeissen0]

COOOOL

i have never seen a major injury happen... i broke a kid's arm once, but that was in baseball, and i didn't even know it until he showed up at soccer practice a couple days later with his arm in a sling

he tried to bowl me over at the plate... :D

[nsa]

Hitman said:From my experiece, the quality of the league will be determined by those that run the league.

How the league handles players who receive red cards, players in violent situations, referee abuse and overall following the rules -- will determine the quality of the league.

Adult soccer can be the best fun, but it can also be an exercise in frustration.Amen. I have been involved withthe New England Over-the-Hill Soccer League (http://www.othsl.org) for a many years as a player, team manager, director, and referee. The league started with 6 teams over 20 years ago and has grown to 72 Over-the-Hill (aka over-30) teams, 72 Master (o-40) teams and 36 Senior (o-50) teams. A number of former pros show up on the rosters: foreign, NASL, indoor, A-League, and MLS.

Weeding out the bad apples can be tough, but it must be done. Nobody wants to play when there is a danger of being taken out without recrimination. Nobody will referee in a league that does not protect them. We take two approaches to this. First is the player's yellow and red card accumulation. In addition to the usual game suspension for a red card, getting three yellows in separate games will result in a suspension for one match. A second suspension in a season results in a two-game suspension. A third and your out.

The second approach to league discipline is to penalise a team for misbehaviour. In a 10-game season, if a team's players get 10 card points (yellow=1, red=2) then the team is docked two points in the standings. If they get to 15 CPs then they are docked another two points. At 20 they are subject to sanctions by the board including expulsion.

panicfc wrote:This year a team missed the deadline for registration. They had been a long time participant, but had a record for late registration and other problems. The league has slots for 24 teams, and had the schedule drawn up, posted on the website.

They filed an injunction the day before the first game to keep the league from playing without them.The NEOTHSL is affiliated with the US Soccer Federation which gives us some ammunition when dealing with miscreants. It is against the USSF by-laws to take a case such as this to court without going through regular appeals channels. The action by this team would be grounds for tossing them immediately.

We have a registration deadline, a grace period (which includes a fine) and a drop-dead date (which only means something if there are teams on the waiting list. :) ).

[pething101]

Originally posted by redcard816


Sounds good. Thank you!

Of course, in all my snobbery, I still need to get back in shape. :D

But having something to get in shape for would most definately help.

Sorry it took a while to get a reply from my friend but he was in Jersey for a bit.

This is the league he plays in:
Adult Co-ed Intermediate division of CASL

and it starts in 2 weeks.

[nsa]

I got to talking with the referees at a recent match. They identified a serious issue for leagues, new and established - fields. Do not let a team into your league unless they can show a permit to play on that field in the time slots required by the league.

[Bonnie Lass]

Originally posted by pething101


Sorry it took a while to get a reply from my friend but he was in Jersey for a bit.

This is the league he plays in:
Adult Co-ed Intermediate division of CASL

and it starts in 2 weeks.

Ah, CASL. I think I may have to hit them the next go round. I don't have med. insurance right now, nor the money to get any as long as I'm jobless. As it is, I'm holding off on rugby practice/games until then.

Thank you for the info. No worries about the time it took. I just now remembered to check back with this thread. :sheepish:

[Jc18star]

i play in a competitive rec league as well as a semi-pro league and in my area the rec leaguee is 11v11 with full feild and goals as well as an A and B division here there is no real diffrence between the A and B except in B you canot slide tackle its good fun for a sunday morning and it keeps me from getting wrecked on Sat. nights because i dont want to play hung over, the levels of skill very far and wide most people have played but some have the higher level skills that really show on the feild and others can be hacks to make up for not having played at peak levels before i guess it all varies for state to state and county to county

[pething101]

Originally posted by redcard816


Ah, CASL. I think I may have to hit them the next go round. I don't have med. insurance right now, nor the money to get any as long as I'm jobless. As it is, I'm holding off on rugby practice/games until then.

Thank you for the info. No worries about the time it took. I just now remembered to check back with this thread. :sheepish:

That sucks. RDU is dry as far as jobs go from what I hear. Good luck.

[microbrew]

Anyone seen anything like this happen in other adult leagues?

In my former league, http://www.cactusmouse.com/mens_soccer/, the league management called off the entire summer season due to several incidents- examples here http://cactusmouse.com/ubb/Forum3/HTML/000027.html and here http://cactusmouse.com/ubb/Forum3/HTML/000028.html

When I played there for two seasons, I didn't see anything like that (and my team played some of the teams mentioned above). What really bothers me is that the referees were so vulnerable.

[JohnW]

Originally posted by jmeissen0
COOOOL

i have never seen a major injury happen...

Hopefully you'll remember your post when you meet another player such as yourself (and invariably you will), and you're the one laying on the ground with the dislocated knee, torn ACL, broken ankle, etc.

As a long-time player and coach, let me assure you that there is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING cool when another player is injured--serious or otherwise.

[JohnW]

Anyway, back to topic...

It's pretty much the same here in Minnesota as in other places--with competitive, recreational, co-ed, over-30, over-40 leagues.

Something that I haven't seen mentioned elsewhere is that in the competitive league there are three divisions and teams actually move up/are relegated to lower divisions.

Occassionally, in the men's competitive league, you'll see former Thunder players and other guys who have played fairly competitively. But even there, the difference between the top teams and bottom teams varies quite a bit.

As far as reffing/game control goes, I have played in and coached games with national refs, as well as refs with much less experience.

Generally, the higher the level of competition, the better the organization and better the refereeing.

Finally, I agree with several of the previous posters in that it usually isn't that hard to find players who can play. The real problem usually is conditioning and commitment. In both cases, most are playing for fun and exercise so some games you have 20 and the next you can have nine.

I also think that the lack of conditioning is one reason for a lot of injuries. Players get fatigued and have a hard time controlling their bodies.

jgw