View Full Version : does england miss joe cole
forzaSoc
17 Mar 2007, 10:50 AM
England's performance after joe's injury went from bad to worse to crap.
do you guys think, england really miss joe cole
Prenn
17 Mar 2007, 11:00 AM
Yes, but the real problem is the wanker in charge.
fadarico
17 Mar 2007, 03:56 PM
Sure england need J.Cole on left he's the best to play there
But even with J.Cole we still hav a striker problem cuz I don't see Crouch or Defoe as good to be on team big as ENGLAND
& don't forget the goalkeeper but I think Foster was good at the game with spain....
Teso Dos Bichos
17 Mar 2007, 04:21 PM
Joe Cole does not solve the problem in the middle of the park. If anything, Owen is missed far more.
Stretch Armstrong
19 Mar 2007, 10:24 AM
Yes, terribly. One of the few English players with the technique to play in confined spaces and play without looking to get the ball out of his feet before he even knows what he wants to do with it.
I struggle to think of another English player who even comes close to Cole's dribbling ability
thebigman
19 Mar 2007, 11:22 AM
nah, i think coles great but id rather a left footed winger, downing is good but not quiock enough
like teso said we miss a goalscorer
Stretch Armstrong
19 Mar 2007, 01:43 PM
We have plenty of potential goalscorers but lack the ability to knit any kind of meaningful play together. Cole & Scholes would have linked up well at International level I suspect
nicephoras
19 Mar 2007, 02:09 PM
Yes, since Cole is one of the only players England have who can create something on his own, if necessary.
three lions
19 Mar 2007, 02:15 PM
Of course he is missed... as well as Michael Owen...
lanman
19 Mar 2007, 02:36 PM
I don't think he's a huge miss if Gerrard is playing on the right as we would become far too narrow as we did with Beckham on the right, but we do miss his ability to conjure something out of nothing. If we were playing with a true right winger then he would be missing him much more.
Stretch Armstrong
19 Mar 2007, 03:59 PM
To be fair Cole does create width, no other English player comes close to his ability to dribble in tight spaces so close to the line when under pressure. Fair enough he wont get in many crosses by going on the outside but as an outlet providing width in possession, he is the best England have by some margin.
God knows why A Cole continously ran inside of him at the World Cup.
forzaSoc
20 Mar 2007, 05:46 PM
joe is may be best mid after gazza and scholes england has in the last 10 - 15 years
thebigman
20 Mar 2007, 07:09 PM
what?^^^
u mental?
Stretch Armstrong
20 Mar 2007, 10:41 PM
Potentially I agree.
He can dribble the football, a precious commodity in an English player, hence why I value him higher than Scholes.
Cole takes more touches per movement than Gazza did but Gazza's burst of speed and upper body strength was unparralled.
Without the injuries and booze he would have been the best player in he world.
Frankly, Gazza was an f ing genius
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNCanHG7w7Y&mode=related&search=
Stretch Armstrong
20 Mar 2007, 11:05 PM
More Gazza
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jE45BPaAurA&mode=related&search=
A shame he had such hideous injuries at Lazio as he showed he had the ability in the spells he was fit to make a real impression in Serie A.
Teso Dos Bichos
21 Mar 2007, 03:00 AM
If only Ferguson had got his hands on him. It is something he has always mentioned as a major regret. Stupid Gazza. :(
Stretch Armstrong
21 Mar 2007, 09:41 AM
Agreed. A crying shame.
thebigman
21 Mar 2007, 10:19 AM
and shearer
think wat hed have won at man yooo
LuisFabiano
22 Mar 2007, 04:06 AM
yes. I think he was our best midfeilder last year. Gerrard and Lamps didnt work well together and beckham tried but it wasn't what we needed. Joe Cole provided goals, opportunities, creativity and speed to our game. He could turn a game around. I seriously think this guy is very underrated.
Tony Dellbird
22 Mar 2007, 11:47 AM
Potentially I agree.
He can dribble the football, a precious commodity in an English player, hence why I value him higher than Scholes.
Cole takes more touches per movement than Gazza did but Gazza's burst of speed and upper body strength was unparralled.
Without the injuries and booze he would have been the best player in he world.
Frankly, Gazza was an f ing genius
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNCanHG7w7Y&mode=related&search=
That's a quality video, just makes you sad that he ended up doing half the stuff he did.