View Full Version : Mexico vs Paraguay y Ecuador: Tercera Lista
Goofy
03 Mar 2007, 08:31 PM
Sigh.
Aguilas Del America
17 Mar 2007, 02:03 AM
EL TRI PARA PARAGUAY Y ECUADOR
Jugador Posición Equipo
Guillermo Ochoa Portero América
José de Jesús Corona Portero Tecos
Oscar Pérez Portero Cruz Azul
Ricardo Osorio Defensa Stuttgart
Carlos Salcido Defensa PSV
José Antonio Castro Defensa América
Israel Castro Defensa Pumas
Rafael Márquez Defensa Barcelona
Ramón Morales Defensa Chivas
Johnny Magallón Defensa Chivas
Joaquín Beltrán Defensa Necaxa
Francisco Javier Rodríguez Defensa Chivas
Gerardo Torrado Medio Cruz Azul
Pavel Pardo Medio Stuttgart
Gonzalo Pineda Medio Chivas
Andrés Guardado Medio Atlas
Gerardo Galindo Medio Necaxa
Israel López Medio Cruz Azul
Fernando Arce Medio Morelia
Alberto Medina Medio Chivas
Omar Bravo Delantero Chivas
Francisco Fonseca Delantero Tigres
Nery Castillo Delantero Olympiakos
Francisco Palencia Delantero Pumas
Adolfo Bautista Delantero Chivas
Jared Borgetti Delantero Cruz Azul
D.T. Hugo Sánchez
http://www.mediotiempo.com/noticia.php?id_noticia=35299
eL-ShorTy
17 Mar 2007, 04:04 AM
Se nota que Hugo le gustan los jovenes:
Porteros
Guillermo Ochoa: 21
José de Jesús Corona: 26
Óscar Pérez: 34
Defensas
Rafael Márquez: 28
Carlos Salcido: 26
Ricardo Osorio: 26
Joaquín Beltrán: 30
Francisco Rodríguez: 25
Israel Castro: 26
José Castro: 26
Johnny Magallón: 25
Ramón Morales: 31
Mediocampistas
Gerardo Galindo: 28
Gerardo Torrado: 27
Pavel Pardo: 30
Andrés Guardado: 20
Gonzalo Pineda: 24
Israel López: 32
Fernando Arce: 26
Alberto Medina: 23
Delanteros
Francisco Fonseca: 27
Nery Castillo: 22
Adolfo Bautista:27
Omar Bravo: 27
Jared Borgetti: 33
Francisco Palencia: 33
PasionPorElTri
17 Mar 2007, 04:20 AM
Es Sarcasmo?!! :D
eL-ShorTy
17 Mar 2007, 04:15 PM
Es Sarcasmo?!! :D
Claro que no. No miras todos los muchachitos en la lista. :p
CheveLoco
17 Mar 2007, 06:35 PM
ugh...Borgetti and Palencia still there...has Hugo been watching their games lately?:confused:
Chiquitibum
17 Mar 2007, 06:43 PM
Im just wondering if Nery will actually make the game and play. Finally will we see him play?
MesQueUnClub
18 Mar 2007, 06:25 AM
Who doesnt belong:
Oscar Perez
Joaquin Beltran
Francisco Rodriguez
Ramon Moralez
Israel Lopez
Jared Borguetti
Francisco Palencia
Francisco Fonseca
Thanks Hugo you have wasted 8 spots on guys that a) are not performing now, and b) are not even going to make it to the world cup. Dousch bag
MesQueUnClub
18 Mar 2007, 06:29 AM
Ok Maza might make it to SA, and he played he is playing alright, but havent we seen enough from this guy?
El Dude Malacopa
18 Mar 2007, 03:40 PM
I don't get it, why is Hugo calling up the old folk for these games?
Against the greengo's I understood he NEEDED to win so he used the "best" we have. But against Paraguay and Ecuador?
I mean he called Conejo for f uck sakes, wtf is that? And this comes from a Cruz Azul fan...
WTH is Hugo thinking?
eL-ShorTy
18 Mar 2007, 04:04 PM
Who doesnt belong:
Oscar Perez
Joaquin Beltran
Francisco Rodriguez
Ramon Moralez
Israel Lopez
Jared Borguetti
Francisco Palencia
Francisco Fonseca
Maza at least is playing well right now. I do think he deserves another chance. The one I don't understand is why he keeps calling Palencia. He should be calling someone much younger. Ex. Landin, Esquivel, or Cacho.
Israel Castro had a great game today. lol :rolleyes: Can that be our NT level. That he calls players that suck even in our league. :mad: Borgetti was bench on Cruz Azul. I wonder why.
If Lavolpe gave out this list, there would be about 20 pages saying how Lavople suck. Pero a Hugo se le pasa todo.
CheveLoco
18 Mar 2007, 06:23 PM
hahaha i was thinking the same thing...so many complains about Lavolpe's list, just change Lavolpe's friends for Hugo's friends and you get the same list..but nobody complains:D
Palencia and Borgetti? ewww
PasionPorElTri
18 Mar 2007, 07:24 PM
Man I have to agree with you guys, as much as I like Hugo, I believe is time to give the youngsters some playing time, I really would've liked to see
Carlos Vela
Patricio Araujo
Adrian Aldrete
Correa
Landin Or Cacho
J.C. Medina
about the Goalies, am not complaining I know Ochoa will get the start.
El Pipiripau
18 Mar 2007, 08:21 PM
Who doesnt belong:
Oscar Perez
Joaquin Beltran
Francisco Rodriguez
Ramon Moralez
Israel Lopez
Jared Borguetti
Francisco Palencia
Francisco Fonseca
Thanks Hugo you have wasted 8 spots on guys that a) are not performing now, and b) are not even going to make it to the world cup. Dousch bag
I still think Ramon has something left. At the very least he would be a good sub Guardado and I thought he played well as left back against Venezuela.
MesQueUnClub
19 Mar 2007, 03:17 AM
Ramon would be good as a sub, but we have seen enough for a guy who most likely wont make it to the cup. Lets take him to copa oro or america but lets use these fifa dates on guys that have not gotten the chance with the national team.
Lets use these dates to showcase young guys who might have a shot at going to europe.
Another thing, Is it me or does it seem that Fonseca more than others is just living off the fact that he is a nice guy and gives it his all? This list shows that we suck balls at Forward, the only two guys that I like at the position for sure are, Bofo (who plays like garbage for the national team but is awsome with chivas) and Nery ( who plays awsome for Olympiacos but has not played in the national team).
Bravo while I dont like too much is better (in my opinion) than any forward we called up other than the above two.
I hope there is a method to the madness though, cause if it goes like this hugo is going to leave us like he left UNAM, in the shitter for 2014.
Manoro3
19 Mar 2007, 04:49 AM
Borgetti's in that terrible time where his name still commands respect but his play isn't backing it up anymore. Even in Cruz Azul whenever Sabah steps in he gets the job done in a way Borgetti can't.
I would rather have seen Cacho or Esquivel.
What Gerardo Galindo is doing that Correa isn't is beyond me. Didn't he just pull Galindo in less than 30 minutes in the last game?
Would Hugo consider calling up Mario Méndez? He's playing better than I. Castro for my money.
americanista_76
19 Mar 2007, 10:07 AM
Carlos Vela
Patricio Araujo
Adrian Aldrete
Correa
I even like these players than Torrado. Did I see Borgetti play in his team's loss to San Luis. I think not! Hugo is an idiot!
das001
19 Mar 2007, 12:26 PM
Ojalá pudiera hacerse algo al respecto, no sé, un proceso de selección en el que participaran los técnicos de la Primera División mexicana para escoger a los seleccionados, y así evitar que el técnico nacional tuviera el poder absoluto y sin derecho de réplica para armar sus nóminas. (http://www.laopinion.com/futbolmexicano/?rkey=00000000000001365301)
After reading this I thought about how it may be satisfactory for the players that deserve a chance to prove themselves a spot in el tri... I mean, many players have shown they've got the hudspah to play but for some reason they get shafted...
I want to believe Hugo knows what he's doing, but this recent list has made me doubt his abilities to do anything with the chance he was given, I'm not rooting for him to fail, but at this rate it seems like he's doing what past DT's have been doing with el tri for years... and it's not going to be pretty when he wastes the opportunity...
Anyone agrees with the article?
El Pipiripau
19 Mar 2007, 01:05 PM
After reading this I thought about how it may be satisfactory for the players that deserve a chance to prove themselves a spot in el tri... I mean, many players have shown they've got the hudspah to play but for some reason they get shafted...
I want to believe Hugo knows what he's doing, but this recent list has made me doubt his abilities to do anything with the chance he was given, I'm not rooting for him to fail, but at this rate it seems like he's doing what past DT's have been doing with el tri for years... and it's not going to be pretty when he wastes the opportunity...
Anyone agrees with the article?
I think Hugo might be nervous to start kids for two important tournaments. I'm confident that he'll start calling up new faces after the summer. I would love to see some of the U20 called up but we all know that isn't going happen. We have to remember that they have bigger fish to fry.
I really doubt Jared will start. I might be foolish but I have to believe that Hugo has been watching Borgetti and knows that at the moment he really sucks. If it were up to me I would start Arce, Bravo, Fonseca, (in that order) ahead of Jared to play along side Nery.
John Jagou
19 Mar 2007, 01:30 PM
I was actually surprised that Hugo did not call either Galindo or Mendez. The next fifa window is on June 2 and June 6, which is just a week before the Gold Cup starts. So if these guys are going to play in the tournament, which now looks very doubtful, the earliest Hugo could see them playing is June 2. A bad decision, considering that Mexico's depth on the back line is not very strong.
As far as the youngsters, Hugo siad they won't be considered until after this summer, so any hopes and dreams of these guys playing on the senior side this summer should be extinguished, if they haven't been already.
This is Nery's last chance. If he doesn't play, then it'll be thanks for your time, and adios. If this guy has any kind of consistent goal scoring skills, it'll be a marked improvement over what is available now.
Also, by looking at the list, and past lists, it appears to me that Hugo is working toward copa oro and copa america. His prep for 2010 will begin this september. That is when the new blood will be tranfused into the team.