View Full Version : JOB: Ajax vs. FC Barcelona, 8/4 (R)
Pichi
04 Aug 2002, 04:50 PM
Here is the score sheet with lineups and substitutions.
Pichi
Ajax 4
Goleadores: Mido 47', Van der Vaart 59',61', Witschge 90'
Barcelona 3
Goleadores: Kluivert 09', Saviola 39',47'
Final del Torneo Amsterdam
Estadio: Amsterdam Arena
Fecha: 04-08-2002
Hora: 20.45 horas
Alineaciones
AJAX
Maarten Stekelenburg
Hattem Trabelsi
Andre Bergdolmo
T. Galasek (Pienaar 60')
Christian Chivu
Andy van der Meyde
Richard Wicshge
Maxwell (Ibrahimovic 77')
Mido
Rafael van der Vaart (Machlas 85')
Sikora ( Wamberto 60')
ENTRENADOR:
Ronald Koeman
SUPLENTES:
Petri Pasanen
Steven Pienaar Wamberto
Aron Winter
FC BARCELONA
Bonano
Reiziger
Cristanval
De Boer (F. Navarro 62')
Puyol (Gabri 62')
Cocu
Xavi
Mendieta
Luis Enrique (Dani 62')
Saviola (Gerard 86')
Kluivert
ENTRENADOR:
Louis Van Gaal
SUPLENTES:
Enke (PS)
Riquelme
Gabri
Roechemback
Gerard
Dani
Overmars
freisland
04 Aug 2002, 07:34 PM
Originally posted by BuffloSoldier
Thanks, freis. All the Dutch "Babelfish-esque" sites don't have Dutch/English ability anymore.
no problem. But try this:
http://www.worldlingo.com/wl/Translate
It's not too bad.
fidlerre
04 Aug 2002, 07:38 PM
good to see the ajax win...
too bad job didnt play.
i think ajax is going to have a very, very good year.
appoo
04 Aug 2002, 10:17 PM
they just beat Man U's and Barca's first team right?? are they really one of the top 5 - 10 clubs in the world??
BuffloSoldier
04 Aug 2002, 10:24 PM
Originally posted by appooOnU
they just beat Man U's and Barca's first team right?? are they really one of the top 5 - 10 clubs in the world??
Yes.
That's to be seen.
BuffloSoldier
04 Aug 2002, 10:36 PM
Just saw the highlights on FSW--other than Mido's and vdV's 2nd goal (goaline scrambles), all superb tallies. Good times, good times...
fidlerre
04 Aug 2002, 10:41 PM
Originally posted by BuffloSoldier
Just saw the highlights on FSW--other than Mido's and vdV's 2nd goal (goaline scrambles), all superb tallies. Good times, good times...
i saw that too buff.
a good season is ahead for ajax...i just have a feeling.
it was nice to see the highlights on FSW, and who is the blonde chick on sky sports tonight? i thought i liked kirsty gallagher but this lady is climbing...
Sinko
04 Aug 2002, 11:45 PM
No JOB? What a relief! No need to have him play well and give LvG any bright ideas!!!
jjayg
05 Aug 2002, 12:09 AM
Sounds like a great game! I am excited about Ajax this year. Hope they still show on FSW.
Martin Fischer
05 Aug 2002, 09:16 AM
I saw this game and Ajax was quite a bit lucky. The main piece of luck was a terrible offside call that denied Barca a beautiful goal to go up 4-1. The second piece of luck is that Van Gaal is so full of himself that he actually thinks he can protect a 2-0 halftime lead by subbing Reizinger for Christanval and teaming him with DeBoer in what was essentially a back two.
Ajax got two goals off goal mouth scrambles and two goals off uncharacteristic errors by Carlos Pulyol, who Van Gaall has playing a role floating between the central defenders and the midfield.
It was a very exciting game. Van Der Vaart's first goal was brilliant, and he is world class. Ajax has a deep and talented squad, though I don't think when the real play starts they will be quite in Barca's class. BTW, Witsche played the left back/left midfield role that both Van Gaal and Koeman use. As for Ajax's midfield, I don't see how JOB wouldn't have been an improvement over what Ajax had out there.
dheck
05 Aug 2002, 09:25 AM
Originally posted by Sinko
No JOB? What a relief! No need to have him play well and give LvG any bright ideas!!!
I wouldn't complain too much if O'Brien got an offer from Barca, although I think he fits in perfectly and has a great situation at Ajax. Then again Barca is pretty much a second Ajax.
I do hope Ajax have a big year this year, because I seriously doubt Van der Vaart is going to be there next year. I see him at Barca or AC Milan really soon.
jeffmefun
05 Aug 2002, 05:06 PM
anyone know if this will be rebroadcast on fsw? sounds like a great match.
bert patenaude
06 Aug 2002, 11:27 PM
Match report. JOB probably best player against Manchester United.
http://www.ajax-usa.com/ajax/matches/02-03/0804.html
Kobranzilla
07 Aug 2002, 12:33 AM
Originally posted by Martin Fischer
BTW, Witsche played the left back/left midfield role that both Van Gaal and Koeman use.
Witchge and Koeman played together under Cruyff at Barca in the early 90's....
Bird
11 Aug 2002, 08:38 PM
Sorry for the late post, but I have been offline for the last few days.
I caught the game(s) on Sky in London and agree generally with Martin Fischer's comments. Ajax was flat in the first half and then roared back in the second half. Luck favored Ajax in the first with the offsides call, but shifted to Barca in the second. In the end, Ajax probably deserved the victory and the hardware for their overall play and great attitude during the tournament.
Van der Vaart is the Bomb. He has improved substantially over last year, which is a real accomplishment considering how much time he has been sidelined in the last 12 months. On his first goal, IIRC, he recieved the ball from the right corner, controlled it away from the Barca goal with his first touch while shielding the defender, and then struck a no-look rocket with his left foot with his back to the goal into the left side netting. It was a great display of technical skill, body positioning and clinical finishing.
Witschge started in place of JOB and played a fairly pedestrian match. He had a couple of decent combinations and attacks in the second half, but wasn't really a factor until he scored the winning goal (a bending free kick from 25-30). It was a dramatic finish to a fun game.
Chivu vs. Kluivert was fun to watch. Kluivert got the better of the battle in the first half, but Chivu finished the match pretty well. In the end, it wasn't his best game, but he showed (again) that he can match up mano-a-mano against one of the world's best attackers. IMHO, he has more upside (at 21 years old) and better overall value than Rio, but doesn't get a fraction of the media attention.
Hopefully, FSW will pick up the Eredevisie again so we can watch Ajax week in and week out. As the Sky broadcasters commented, they could do some real damage in the CL this year, although they're probably a year of "seasoning" in Euro competition away from being considered a top competitor. Between Mido, Chivu, VdV, Stekelenburg, Yakubu, Zlatan, Pienaar, Maxwell and even guys like JOB, Trabelsi and van der Meyde, it's a really an amazingly young team.
JOB was on the field in street clothes for the celebration and post-game awards. He was wearing a suit with loosely knotted necktie -- California cool meets Euro formality, I guess. ;)