Another question about the Lille vs Man U. game

[simon99]

I thought that a player who's leaving the pitch without the ref's permission should receive a yellow card for his conduct. Should've the referee gave a yellow to all the Lille players who quit the pitch after the goal or just the captain? Would that have been correct or I'm totally way out with this one?

Thanks.

[Ref Flunkie]

I thought that a player who's leaving the pitch without the ref's permission should receive a yellow card for his conduct. Should've the referee gave a yellow to all the Lille players who quit the pitch after the goal or just the captain? Would that have been correct or I'm totally way out with this one?

Thanks.

There is "by the book" correct and then there is "real world" correct. By the book, the referee could have shown anyone who left a caution. The question is, would this have had a wanted effect on the situation.

[USSF REF]

You can only imagine the trouble that would have ensued if the referee had tried to give out that many bookings - even if he was correct.

My thing is, if Lille wanted to protest and all that, why did they kick-off before staging their walk off. If I was them, I would have done this right away so if I happened to change the referees mind (wasn't going to happen though) but if I did pull off that sort of miracle, the goal would not have counted. As it was, all the argument in the world wouldn't matter because after the kick-off. The goal had to stand.

[DerbyRam54]

ISTR reading somewhere that what Lille did was a French-style protest. It seems odd to me for precisely the reasons stated above.

[NHRef]

ISTR reading somewhere that what Lille did was a French-style protest. It seems odd to me for precisely the reasons stated above.

that assumes they know the rules, which by quotes earlier its clear they don't. If they don't know a quick kick is what the attackers are entitled to, what's the odds they know a ref can change his mind, but only up to the restart?

[Ref Flunkie]

ISTR reading somewhere that what Lille did was a French-style protest. It seems odd to me for precisely the reasons stated above.


Funny that a French protest is leaving the field of BATTLE. Ha ha ha :).

[Africa2010]

You can only imagine the trouble that would have ensued if the referee had tried to give out that many bookings - even if he was correct.

My thing is, if Lille wanted to protest and all that, why did they kick-off before staging their walk off. If I was them, I would have done this right away so if I happened to change the referees mind (wasn't going to happen though) but if I did pull off that sort of miracle, the goal would not have counted. As it was, all the argument in the world wouldn't matter because after the kick-off. The goal had to stand.

Person's got to be careful of whatever sh*t Manure is doing to take the game; and Lille has been close to minnow for years.

[USSF REF]

Person's got to be careful of whatever sh*t Manure is doing to take the game; and Lille has been close to minnow for years.

Does anyone notice a pattern?

[propes]

Not quite the same, but similar: I know of a coach (USL) that purposefully delayed returning his team after halftime - the coach was ejected. Given the gesturing of the Lille coach, the same could be given to him.

[bluedevils]

Person's got to be careful of whatever sh*t Manure is doing to take the game; and Lille has been close to minnow for years.

Honestly, I don't understand what you are saying! If you are tryng to be clever, you'll need to be a bit less so if you want us to laugh at your jokes.

[davidjd]

My thing is, if Lille wanted to protest and all that, why did they kick-off before staging their walk off. If I was them, I would have done this right away so if I happened to change the referees mind (wasn't going to happen though) but if I did pull off that sort of miracle, the goal would not have counted. As it was, all the argument in the world wouldn't matter because after the kick-off. The goal had to stand.

Reminds me of a HS game I played in back in '89. Semi final of a big pre-season tourney. Near the end of a 0-0 game. Corner for other team. One of their attackers clearly pushes our player down with 2 hands going up for a header and proceeds to head the ball in the goal. Everyone protested to the referee who refused to hear it. After several minutes our team gave up protesting and lined up to kick off. I refused to let my team kick off and pleaded with the referee to, at minimum, check with his linesman (which he hadn't yet done.) He finally did, the goal was reversed and we won in OT. As a result of making the finals of that tourney we got an at large bid at the CIF (San Diego) tourney and extended our season there a few weeks.

Sometimes it does pay off.

- Davidjd

[USSF REF]

Reminds me of a HS game I played in back in '89. Semi final of a big pre-season tourney. Near the end of a 0-0 game. Corner for other team. One of their attackers clearly pushes our player down with 2 hands going up for a header and proceeds to head the ball in the goal. Everyone protested to the referee who refused to hear it. After several minutes our team gave up protesting and lined up to kick off. I refused to let my team kick off and pleaded with the referee to, at minimum, check with his linesman (which he hadn't yet done.) He finally did, the goal was reversed and we won in OT. As a result of making the finals of that tourney we got an at large bid at the CIF (San Diego) tourney and extended our season there a few weeks.

Sometimes it does pay off.

- Davidjd

And that is what knowing the laws (or rules in HS) of the game can do for you. Good job - I'm glad you convinced the ref to check with his AR, as long as you did it in a respectful way.

[bluedevils]

Reminds me of a HS game I played in back in '89. Semi final of a big pre-season tourney. Near the end of a 0-0 game. Corner for other team. One of their attackers clearly pushes our player down with 2 hands going up for a header and proceeds to head the ball in the goal. Everyone protested to the referee who refused to hear it. After several minutes our team gave up protesting and lined up to kick off. I refused to let my team kick off and pleaded with the referee to, at minimum, check with his linesman (which he hadn't yet done.) He finally did, the goal was reversed and we won in OT. As a result of making the finals of that tourney we got an at large bid at the CIF (San Diego) tourney and extended our season there a few weeks.

Sometimes it does pay off.

- Davidjd

Good story. Sometimes, it behooves the knowledgeable player to help the ref to do his job right -- in this case, to check with the AR. I sure did plenty of 'helping' the referees in my most competitive playing days. :)