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footyfan1
04 Mar 2007, 03:39 PM
So I finally get GolTV and to my pleasure I see a Dortmund side that I haven't had the chance to see all season long. And they played well, for the most part. The first 15 minutes were pretty disorganized but after that it was attack, attack, attack. The goal from Cottbus after the six minute allowed them to sit back...who knew they would score another 2? Metzelder and Sahin played offensive football and Tinga had some brilliant moves...Ricken -eh, not so much.

And half time ends 1-1 thanks to an awsome move by Frei. I was happy with my GolTV. But I wanted the three points.

After the break, BVB take their foot of the gas peddle a bit and Cottbus start to show some character. Dortmund pretty much played them for the last 30 minutes but this wasn't to be.

Woerns fouls some Cottbus player by shoving him but it doesn't get called. I breath...then not but a few minutes latter, Woerns makes the perfect tack in the box, but the ref calls on it and awards the penalty. Wow, I'm amazed. Full attack again but much sloppier, some passes do not connect and Cottbus and the players seem to play along well with each other and have a good understanding...andwith the coach subbing in the Chinese internastional they counter very dangerously and it's soon 1-3.

Now, I am yelling at the TV while my wife says, "Maybe wew shouldn't have gotten this channel."

Long story short...Frei scores one more and Roebben makes some subs. Dortmund with minutes to go on a set piece has frei score the 'hat-trick', I was so happy Dortmund tied in their home, but against Cottbus? Anyway, great goal or was it...nope off-sides.

The team played well, sloppy defending cost them the game. I wouldn't say poor finishing in this case though Sahin and Metz both had great shots going wide, but for the most part, Cottbus defended putting all their men in the box.

S that's how it is...3 very valuable points down the toilet, BVB fans throwing crap onto the pitch and I got my Time-Warner cable upgrade.


Energie and Aachen pull away...uefa.com (http://www.uefa.com/footballeurope/news/kind=2/newsid=512589.html)

FC Energie Cottbus and TSV Alemannia Aachen boosted their chances of avoiding relegation with Bundesliga wins on Sunday.

Energie looked to have the hardest task of the two strugglers as they travelled to BV Borussia Dortmund, but Vlad Munteanu's two goals inspired them to a 3-2 victory. The Romanian midfielder opened the scoring after six minutes only for Alexander Frei (42) to equalise. Munteanu (56) restored Energie’s advantage with his ninth league goal of the season before Chinese midfielder Jiayi Shao (66) gave them a two-goal cushion. Frei (86) then struck again to set up a tense finish but the visitors held on to move up to eleventh in the table and level on points with Dortmund.



No f#cking excuses. They played very STUPIDLY today. And I think Roeber was a F#CKING IDIOT for leaving Kehl and Woerns out there as long as he did. I thought they were both AWFUL!!

And again, why is Brzenska starting ahead of Amedick?? Amedick is f#cking LIGHT YEARS BETTER THAN BREZENKA!!

I think Brezenska must have pictures of Watzke shagging sheep or something!!!

The only ones who played worth a damn today in my eyes were Frei, Tinga, Sahin, Kringe and Metzelder.

The rest were goddamned AWFUL!!! They looked f#cking HORRIBLE!!!

I know he didn't have much to work with, but I thought Roeber's coaching was HORRIBLE too!!

From everything we translated on for the official website, they KNEW Cottbus' strength was the counterattack. How did we give up two of the three goals?

COUNTERATTACK!

It's like they were physically prepared, but had f#cking lobotomies so they could run faster!!!

This has to be the worst Borussia Dortmund team since 1999-2000. That team barely avoided relegation after Udo Lattek and Matthias Sammer came to the rescue.

Do we need to call Sammer back??

It is so bad I would not mind if they did. This team has a SERIOUS MOTIVATION PROBLEM and if there's one thing Sammer is good at, it is motivating.......

Yes, I'm that mother f#ckin' desperate!!!!

I believe our team is THAT F#CKING BAD!!!


:mad: :mad:

Cris 09
04 Mar 2007, 05:20 PM
It is so bad I would not mind if they did. This team has a SERIOUS MOTIVATION PROBLEM and if there's one thing Sammer is good at, it is motivating.......

Yes, I'm that mother f#ckin' desperate!!!!

I believe our team is THAT F#CKING BAD!!!


:mad: :mad:

I wouldn't say they looked unmotivated at all...disorganized and sloppy, yes - but except for the first 15 minutes of the game (down 1-0) and during some moments in the second half, BVB looked to control the match and they looked very motivated to win...just didn't do it. Bad defensive tactics, wrong place to give the ball away, poorly crossed corners, poor coaching decisions, bad all around defending during the counters...that was today's downfall. I could go out on the pitch and show 110% motivation, doesn't mean I will win.

Arlo
04 Mar 2007, 07:07 PM
F*CK THIS, BVB needs a miracle

footyfan1
05 Mar 2007, 03:34 AM
I wouldn't say they looked unmotivated at all...disorganized and sloppy, yes - but except for the first 15 minutes of the game (down 1-0) and during some moments in the second half, BVB looked to control the match and they looked very motivated to win...just didn't do it. Bad defensive tactics, wrong place to give the ball away, poorly crossed corners, poor coaching decisions, bad all around defending during the counters...that was today's downfall. I could go out on the pitch and show 110% motivation, doesn't mean I will win.


YOU aren't a player with their talents.

Cris, don't let stats or some run of play fool you. In the decisive moments, the Cottbus players almost ALWAYS out worked or out-did our guys!

In the decisive moments, almost 100% of the time!

THAT'S WHAT WINS GAMES MAN!

Not gaudy stats or "controlling the match". Shit, Liverpool mainly controlled their match against Man U. on Saturday. Had Man U. down to ten men in stoppage time too.

What happened to Liverpool after controlling most of the match??

Man U. stole it with goal just about two minutes into injury time.

You can "control the match" all you want, if the other team has one more goal than you at the final whistle, you still f#cking LOSE!!!

CONTROLLING THE MATCH doesn't mean JACK SHIT unless you out-score your opponent while you're controlling it!

Especially when your "controlling the match" is part of your opponent's game plan!!!


Cottbus always lets their opponents plug away and they strike on the counter-attack! Everyone in the league knows that!!!



Here are some numbers from kicker.

Goal Chances: 6-4 BVB

Corners: 14-0 BVB

Ball Possession: 62% BVB

Battles for the ball won: 57% BVB

Final score:

COTTBUS 3

BVB 2

Which one matters most???


They out-did our guys when it counted the most. They wanted it more and they went out and took it!

Cottbus picked their spots, played a smarter game (both are better coaching!), and gave a better effort.

Those gaudy stats in our favor just show the difference in talent and Cottbus's proficiency in playing their "Rope-A-Dope", counter-attacking game!

SHOWING MORE HEART AS A TEAM also won that game for Cottbus.

Something BVB has been sorely lacking since Sammer had to hang up his cleats!!

Had that BVB team given a better effort Cris, the fans in the Westfalenstadion would have been behind them all the way.

Instead, you clearly heard the Cottbus fans for long periods of time, and our fans were leaving early again!

They are fed up with this team's lack of effort! When those people see effort, they stand behind that team, no matter what the result!

EVEN THE "SITZPLATZ SCHWEIN!!!"

The only guys I saw give a true effort yesterday were Frei, Kringe, Metzelder, Tinga and Sahin.

The other five field players were USELESS! M@THER FU(KING USELESS!!!

ESPECIALLY RICKEN AND SMOLAREK!!

I thought we were playing two men down at certain points!!!

There's no defending that crap we saw yesterday. Why are you even trying? :mad:

Cottbus didn't win luckily, they won DESERVEDLY!!

And yes, had 5 of the 10 BVB field players given a BETTER EFFORT, I feel we would have won the match! But when you have over half your field players playing like they don't give a rat's ass, you're going to lose!


Don't just take my word for it. Here's the kicker ratings for the Cottbus match:

Weidenfeller 4 (I think he got lowered from a "3" or "3.5" because of his actions on the Shao goal)

Metzelder 2.5 (For me, after Frei, our man of the match)

Brzenska 5 (About right)

Woerns 5 (Should have been a "6" in my opinion!)

Kringe 3 (About right - Worked his ass off)

Kehl 4.5 (I would have had him as a "5" or "5.5")

Ricken 5 (Very generous in my opinion, I would have had him as a "6")

Sahin 3.5 (About right)

Tinga 3.5 (I think we should leave him in the center)

Frei 2.5 (I would have given him a "2")

Smolarek 5 (Again, very generous in my opinion another "6")


Cris, do you really think those five players with the bad ratings would get those kind of ratings if they'd truly "given a good effort?" If they'd looked "motivated to win??"

In my opinion, five of the ten field players looked "motivated to win". The other five were pure shit and gave a completely s#itty effort. I thought they dragged down the other five who did truly look "motivated to win"....

Maybe you were watching the five who played well, while I focused on the other five who dragged them down.

Either way, we were also out-coached. I thought overall, it was a s#itty effort. :mad:

Our players don't show that they are willing to get dirty, risk injury or if duty calls, shed blood to win.

They just don't.

footyfan1
05 Mar 2007, 04:25 AM
F*CK THIS, BVB needs a miracle


Actually, I think we need a series of matches where all eleven guys give a good level of effort.

footyfan1
05 Mar 2007, 10:30 AM
BTW, guys, I would not be surprised if the DFB makes an example out of Ebi Smolarek.

That dive he he tried to fool the referee with was nothing short of f#cking shameful.

Arlo
05 Mar 2007, 06:34 PM
Actually, I think we need a series of matches where all eleven guys give a good level of effort.

and if that would happen, i would call it a miracle

footyfan1
06 Mar 2007, 03:08 AM
and if that would happen, i would call it a miracle

Fair enough!! REPPED!!! :D

Gunning4Chelsea
06 Mar 2007, 05:42 PM
BTW, guys, I would not be surprised if the DFB makes an example out of Ebi Smolarek.

That dive he he tried to fool the referee with was nothing short of f#cking shameful.

didn't see it....disappointed but not surprised....he's doing anything to jump-start this sinking ship.....

we are now, officially in relegation battle

footyfan1
06 Mar 2007, 05:58 PM
didn't see it....disappointed but not surprised....he's doing anything to jump-start this sinking ship.....

Dude, not trying to start crap with you, but that was quite possibly the worst "effort" I've seen from him in a BVB shirt.

The loss was in no way "his fault", but as I said before, we had five field players who truly looked like they were trying to win and five who looked like they were just along for the ride.

Smolarek looked like he was just along for the ride.



we are now, officially in relegation battle

Yep. I think we were "officially" in it after the asskicking we took in Hannover.

Gunning4Chelsea
07 Mar 2007, 10:27 AM
Dude, not trying to start crap with you, but that was quite possibly the worst "effort" I've seen from him in a BVB shirt.

The loss was in no way "his fault", but as I said before, we had five field players who truly looked like they were trying to win and five who looked like they were just along for the ride.

Smolarek looked like he was just along for the ride.





Yep. I think we were "officially" in it after the asskicking we took in Hannover.

my apologies...i did not catch the game this week....i will take your word for Smolarek's lack of effort.....
but from what i have seen smolarek do in the past...since late 05/06 season is taking dives to "get something going"....

why do you think roder did not sub him?
(serious question)

footyfan1
07 Mar 2007, 11:45 AM
why do you think roder did not sub him?
(serious question)

No one who Roeber feels would give anything better to the team to replace him. I think Roeber was holding Tyrala out for midfield and I don't think he's quite as impressed with Tyrala as some of the fans and management are.

Roeber certainly isn't impressed with Amoah. Roeber criticized Amoah harshly earlier this week.

Believe me, if Roeber had anyone who he thought could give the team anything, they would have been in there.

We just have nothing as far a depth goes. Management severely overestimated this young talent we've got coming up.

Actually, I'll change that. I don't think they "overestimated" anything, I think they flat out lied.